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If Episode VII moves to 2016, thinking Finding Dory may move to Christmas. That is a Juggernaut all to its own.
Good god! if this movie retains the quality of FN the xmas legs will be insane, it'll likely crush Pixar's biggest OW record.
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Didn't they have bra's in the 70's?
That was clearly the one thing missing from Amy's previous oscar campaigns not enough cleavage, no go get that oscah gurl!!!!!
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Great odin's beard! this is the second crazy Thor prediction thread I've read today. I can see TDW making more then MOS WW but OS, don't think so.
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I would be very cautious with that affirmation because outside of Nolan's Batman (and even there, only TDK and TDKR), the OS market never really embraced Batman, the character the way they embraced Spider Man, proven by its reboot that demonstrated that even outside of Raimy and Tobey Mc guire, the character is still very popular abroad..
So nothing is certain. It is yet to be proven that a non Nolan Batman without Bale can bring the masses in droves better than Spider Man (hence hitting at least $600M abroad) does when it comes to the OS market, to have a chance to hit a billion.
The same way that The Bourne sans Matt Dillon and the Terminator serie sans Cameron and Schwarzie (except for his cameo) are much less attractive to the audience. It will also be the case when IM will rebooted without RDJ.
I agree for the most part, but I'd say the OS gross for Batman '89 was actually pretty good for its time.
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I'm actually quite excited for this film, although on a surface level its premise seems to have strong similarities to Elysium, it'll be interesting to see which of the two handles the whole class system issue better.
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I'm torn: betting against Cameron at this point seems like a bad idea, but Avatar feels like a phenomenon of a certain time and place, much like Titanic. Because it was so massive initially it still has a big lingering fanbase, but I also get the sense a lot of people looking back a few years later are wondering how it ever got to be popular at all and it's one of those "you had to be there" pop culture things that can't really be recreated. Of course, something else can come along and be a supernova of popularity, but lightning's not going to strike twice revisiting the same world over again. So I would actually feel more confident about the box office of Cameron movie that was an entirely different project, as opposed to an Avatar sequel, but with Cameron you should never say never, so I just don't know.
I'm certain there's gonna be a sizeable drop in attendance for the sequels. Despite it's huge bo I don't get the feeling that Avatar is anything like a long lasting cultural phenomenon that say SW was, or even something like the Matrix. To be honest, I think it's largely forgotten save a few internet die hards. But yeah, it's James f*ken Cameron, so only a fool would bet against him.
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Certainly, which is why films releasing in close proximity to one another could be compared on pure numbers. the further apart they release the bigger of an effect that has, which is how you get the examples from this post. In the case of TDK, while the 2 year gap made some difference, it was clearly negligible compared to to other factors.
I don't think our positions are that far apart, it appears to come down to how much of an impact each of us feels the OS market expansion has been I think a little you seem to think alot.
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The numbers for the whole market have changed as much as the difference between the films. The question is if this is a matter of all the films themselves being so much more appealing, or a matter of inflation and growing markets. I think it's the latter, and that in this case it can basically explain the entirety of the difference.
Inflation has had a bigger impact along with 3D, then the growing markets themselves. But clearly it's basic common sense that the appeal of a movie has a bigger impact then anything on the success of a movie, BB done 374m vs TDK's billion, 3 years of inflation and growing os markets isn't the difference between these two film, it's the wom of one resulted in an increase in interest in the other and a higher gross.
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No one doubts that SM grosses are far more impressive than IM1 (or MOS). The question is between IM1 and MOS, and I think they are pretty comparable.
Yeah but the bottom line is that MOS will make almost 100m more then IM1 when all is said and done. You can factor in 3D and ticket price inflation all you want, but it doesn't really change that fact. My original point wasn't to belittle IM1 achievements in anyway. IM1 done great overall and I'd like say interms of success they're actually on par with one another. I just don't buy the size of the OS market argument making any significant difference as to what IM would've made.
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I get a Casino vibe from this
So do I and I personally prefere Casino to Goodfellas.
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Do you think domestic audiences had more interest in Tasm than Jaws? The Hangover 2 more than Raiders of The Lost Ark? Alice In Wonderland over Forrest Gump? Superman Returns more than Gone With The Wind?
Interest in films can't be measured by simple grosses when there are several years in between, if you IM numbers compared to its peers, and MOS numbers compared to its peers, then the performance is similar.
But my point is SM1 and even SM3 came out before IM1 and yet still managed huge numbers OS, thereby proving it was possible for a superhero movie to break out big with existing markets.
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I feel dirty after watching that trailer.
Bale spanking Amy/Lawrence's butt like a drum is already my favourite scene of the year. Amaze-balls.
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It seems like every man dressed like pimps in the 70's.
I'd be shocked if this doesn't atleast get a best custom oscar nom. Lawrence and Cooper's hair alone deserve to be nominated.
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Because you can't ignore changes in the size of the market, OS grosses are simply not the same as they used to be. To put it in perspective, IM was the 11th biggest film in the year it came out, MOS's gross would have placed it at number 12 last year.
Spidermans numbers were indeed insanely good, more impressive then TDKR.
I'm not arguing that the size of the OS market hasn't increased, what I'm saying is that this isn't the reason IM1 didn't do great numbers or BB or SR. It's more to do with the fact that audiences weren't that interested in seeing them so chose not to. The increase of markets isn't going to change that fact.
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All I see is cleavage! gonna be first in line when this drops. That cast is amazing, except renner.
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The parallels between Iron man 1 and 2 and MOS aren't too good because:
1. IM1 and IM2 did not have 3-D and MOS didn't beat any of those domestically despite that.
2.The international box office hadnt exploded like the way it is now.
3.When IM1 came out, Iron man was a b-list Marvel character without much pop culture exposure. Superman is the most recognizable superhero in the world and has had 5 major movies prior to MOS . A lot of folks hated Superman returns but the movie was well received by critics and actually increased over the previous Superman movies despite the total train wreck (critically and commercially) that was Superman 4.
Comparing MOS to Iron man doesn't make it look any better. It actually makes it look worse.
I'm not sure why people keep making this argument to justify why films like IM1 didn't do that well overseas. SM1 done $400m OS all the way back in 2002, yes it's spider-man etc, but BB didn't manage it, neither did SR. Infact I'd argue that Spider-man has done more to popularise superhero's across the globe then any other single comic book character over the past 10 years.
As to your other points, well none of that changes the fact that MOS has grossed more WW then either of the first 2 Iron Man films.
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I don't really care whose hotter, I'd allow either one of them to nibble on my nutsack.
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The potential was there for more so that automatically gives a feeling of disappointment
My thoughts exactly. It's more the wasted potential then the final gross that I'm more disappointed by. But clearly MOS is a success, and that will ultimately be what it'll be remembered as.
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So looking forward to this, the crazy hair styles alone are gonna be worth the price of admission. And the set pics of JLaw in that neck brace was just pure comedy.
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O.M.G! MOS drops have been horrendous, good god, what a disappointing run. Wolvie did alright I suppose, it's OS numbers are gonna save it. Conjuring had an impressive hold, and MU doen't look like it's gonna come close to 300m despite looking it would before DM2 steam rolled over it, competition can be a b*tch.
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don't forget Red 2 is out next week as well. really busy weekend for new releases!
I might actually go see that, I enjoyed the first one. Although every fibre of my being is telling me it's gonna suck.
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Don't get the hype for Skyfall, sure it looked pretty and the first act is amazing. But as soon as the whole mother theme started kicking in it just became a bore and by the end I just wanted it to end. So chalk me up to one of those not particularly excited by another Mendes does bond.
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What irritates me most about MOS run is just when it began to stabilize and started developing something approaching legs it lost a sh*t load of theatres and once it lost imax, then good night vienna.
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Doesn't surprise me, I think Prometheus could do really well internationallyJapan was by far the biggest OS market for Alien3
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I've watched the trailer like atleast 10 times (for research purposes) and I've yet to spot Amy with a bra in any of her scenes. I'm so there opening nite!