[C’MON BARBIE LET'S GO PARTY...AT LOS ALAMOS | BARBENHEIMER WEEKEND THREAD | We’re Thriving in our Plastic Fantastic Era | Mother Mothered with 162M | Daddy Exploded with 82.4M]

I know a lot of folk have been down on The Marvels and superhero flicks in general. Considering the power behind Barbie, is there a chance The Marvels surprises, do to being so women centric? Especially with the last Marvel flicks going over rather well? I'm not talking crazy money, but 600m+?

 

It would have to review well of course.

[Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny | June 30 2023 | Very mixed reviews out of Cannes]

1 hour ago, JustLurking said:

Green Book and CODA are both crowdpleasers, Parasite had huge support from the public in its award campaign similarly to EEAAO and was extremely financially successful for a korean film

 

if these are films that y'all think are "elitist" then I have no idea what BP you would consider NOT elitist. maybe this year they should award mario!

I think something like Dune winning 2021 or Top Gun last year (I prefer EEAO) would be a better examples of this. Those are movies a lot of folks watched and were critical darlings as well. There are more then a few examples in the history of the Oscars where some of the biggest movies of the year at the box office were winning BP. 

 

Titanic, Gone with the Wind, Return of the King, Gladiator, Forest Gump, The Sting, both Godfathers, The Sound of Music.

 

I'm not saying that is what needs to happen every year. And I think last year, was a good example of a film that didn't have the all time box office return, that was clearly a audience favorite. But things use to be different. Big films audiences loved won.

[Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny | June 30 2023 | Very mixed reviews out of Cannes]

43 minutes ago, JustLurking said:

This is not even true whatsoever, oscars more than ever have very much rewarded crowdpleasers or films that audiences were very excited about going into the event, only real exception being like...nomadland? since 2018. if anything the divide is CLOSING.

 

but yea sure ok.

 

"contempt" lol give me a break.

Green Book, Parasite (which I love), and CODA scream, "closing the divide"?

[Weekend Actuals (Jun 23 - 25) | 19.00M ATSV | 18.44M ELEMENTAL | 15.14M THE FLASH | 15.00M NO HARD FEELINGS]

4 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:

TDK the movie does the heavy lifting for the trilogy tbh, it’s a certified classic 

BB tho is not so radically better than many other origins SH movies 

 

And TDKR is arguably one of the worst scripts of Nolan career, but well executed enough to masquerade that 

 

TDKR is one of the best scripts of Nolan's career imo. He just didn't shoot all of it. Which sucks so much.

[Weekend Actuals (Jun 23 - 25) | 19.00M ATSV | 18.44M ELEMENTAL | 15.14M THE FLASH | 15.00M NO HARD FEELINGS]

31 minutes ago, Pinacolada said:

Ok, then we agree that JLaw got something like $25m for it lol. That's been the point of contention here for the last few pages. What I was literally responding to was someone saying "it makes no sense that JLaw would have gotten $25m for this"

 

 

What I'm trying to say is that I wish she would've taken a lower salary, like $10m, and gotten a bigger backend deal or something. Bet on yourself a little bit and help the movie out (at the same time, I fully understand why she'd want the big money and run. I just think it's a bit of a bummer). This thing is never seeing a theatrical profit in theaters. I'm hoping it can leg to like $60m DOM. But It's not getting the international box office that something like Ticket to Paradise got. I was looking at the budget for something like Neighbors and that cost $18m! And Made $270m. And that had 2 stars and a plethora of established names who probably got decent salaries. NHF has 1.

 

As someone else said in here earlier, why should we care at what Dollar mark a studio breakevens at, we're mostly comparing to current expectations for these kinda movies. I agree with that. But for more of these kinds of movies to get greenlit, they do need to make money for these ghouls. 

 

She did bet on herself and got paid up front. Good for her.

[Weekday Thread | TUE - Flash $5.28M, Elementals $5.0M, Spidey $4.7M, Transformer $2.8M, TLM $2.2M]

54 minutes ago, Speedorito said:

There were factors working against it, but there were factors working for it too, such as super strong marketing push. Maybe a billion should never been on the table, but something like 500 million or even 450 million should have been achievable. Barely making 300 million is very bad no matter how you slice it.

Is it going to make it to 300m?

[Weekday Thread | TUE - Flash $5.28M, Elementals $5.0M, Spidey $4.7M, Transformer $2.8M, TLM $2.2M]

6 minutes ago, ringedmortality said:

 

It's probably not gonna be. Guardians 3 only got an 82%, Wakanda Forever an 84%, and Marvels isn't coming off an acclaimed film like the Guardians movies or Black Panther. 

 

Candyman got some acclaimed but I wouldn't say that DeCosta has established herself with critics the way Coogler had with Fruitvale Station and Creed. Or Gunn with Guardians 1 & 2 and The Suicide Squad.

Little Woods has 95% on RT.

[Weekday Thread | TUE - Flash $5.28M, Elementals $5.0M, Spidey $4.7M, Transformer $2.8M, TLM $2.2M]

What if The Marvels reviews very well? Like high 80s, low 90s on RT?

[Weekday Thread | TUE - Flash $5.28M, Elementals $5.0M, Spidey $4.7M, Transformer $2.8M, TLM $2.2M]

Still behind Black Adam's opening weekend...

[Father’s Day/Juneteenth Weekend Thread | Flash implodes with 55M, Elemental bombs with 29M, holdovers hold atrociously | Theaters are dead, streaming is dead. Everything is dead really.]

4 minutes ago, ZattMurdock said:

Will Dune 2 make WB lose money? I don’t think so. Will Dune 2 be a box office success is a whole different question. I’m always kinda amazed how one could look at Dune’s box office performance and say "yeah, that was a box office success". It didn’t flop like BR2049. But not by much.

I mean, it came out on HBO Max at the same time and still did rather decent. A lot better then say, Gunn's TSS. The first one seemed to generate a lot of goodwill and both leads are even bigger stars now.

[Father’s Day/Juneteenth Weekend Thread | Flash implodes with 55M, Elemental bombs with 29M, holdovers hold atrociously | Theaters are dead, streaming is dead. Everything is dead really.]

6 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

 

We've got another 6.5 months with movies coming with even higher production budgets...aka, the year is still young...

How many movies cost more then The Flash still coming?

[Father’s Day/Juneteenth Weekend Thread | Flash implodes with 55M, Elemental bombs with 29M, holdovers hold atrociously | Theaters are dead, streaming is dead. Everything is dead really.]

3 minutes ago, XXRkham Asylum said:

 

Possibly Shazam. Flash costs more and marketing will be higher, but it'll still make about 150-175M more than Shazam.

Half the price, half the box office.

 

[Father’s Day/Juneteenth Weekend Thread | Flash implodes with 55M, Elemental bombs with 29M, holdovers hold atrociously | Theaters are dead, streaming is dead. Everything is dead really.]

Is there an early Sat number for ATSV?

[Father’s Day/Juneteenth Weekend Thread | Flash implodes with 55M, Elemental bombs with 29M, holdovers hold atrociously | Theaters are dead, streaming is dead. Everything is dead really.]

6 minutes ago, Spidey Freak said:

 

It was good tho? Like nowhere near Gunn levels of weird

Spoiler

The stuff with the dogs and the babies... agree to disagree.

 

[Father’s Day/Juneteenth Weekend Thread | Flash implodes with 55M, Elemental bombs with 29M, holdovers hold atrociously | Theaters are dead, streaming is dead. Everything is dead really.]

6 minutes ago, Spidey Freak said:

I do feel bad for Muschietti though. I feel he's an empathetic storyteller (who doesn't include random weird shit like Gunn) and the emotional core of The Flash was easily its strongest part.

 

The multiverse aspects tho 

A lot of the weird shit in this movie, is 100% Muschietti. That opening action scene...

[Father’s Day/Juneteenth Weekend Thread | Flash implodes with 55M, Elemental bombs with 29M, holdovers hold atrociously | Theaters are dead, streaming is dead. Everything is dead really.]

5 minutes ago, XXRkham Asylum said:

 

What theater is this?

[Father’s Day/Juneteenth Weekend Thread | Flash implodes with 55M, Elemental bombs with 29M, holdovers hold atrociously | Theaters are dead, streaming is dead. Everything is dead really.]

Just now, 21C said:

Anyone else joining me on the "Andy Muschietti will eventually drop out of Brave and the Bold due to creative differences" club after this The Flash reception and numbers? 

I'm there.

[Father’s Day/Juneteenth Weekend Thread | Flash implodes with 55M, Elemental bombs with 29M, holdovers hold atrociously | Theaters are dead, streaming is dead. Everything is dead really.]

10 minutes ago, Dragoncaine said:

Wait a minute, the PostTrak exits are so bad

 

Early audience PostTrak exits from Comscore/Screen Engine for The Flash shows 4 stars for general audiences and a 60% recommend and 3 1/2 for kids under 12 and 57% recommend. Remember Thursday night due to fans always has better, skewed exits.

 

Possible B CS incoming?!

So they didn't make a crowd pleaser.

[Father’s Day/Juneteenth Weekend Thread | Flash implodes with 55M, Elemental bombs with 29M, holdovers hold atrociously | Theaters are dead, streaming is dead. Everything is dead really.]

4 minutes ago, Flopped said:

Oh this includes Monday fan screenings. Yikes 

 

 

 

 

This  confirmed?

[Father’s Day/Juneteenth Weekend Thread | Flash implodes with 55M, Elemental bombs with 29M, holdovers hold atrociously | Theaters are dead, streaming is dead. Everything is dead really.]

17 minutes ago, JohnnyGossamer said:

Then, I'm not sure I'm understanding how Muschietti's the next Batman movie or Gunn's Superman movie which are both from my understanding recasting everything and reimagining the visual tone, etc. for those DC characters in those movies with Gunn at the helm as producer have to do with the DCEU. Flash is the end of the DCEU... At least the initial first wave of it. 

We've seen Andy's vision style. That's what The Flash is.

[The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other]

2 minutes ago, dudalb said:

Vaviery reporting that whatever happens with the Flash, Gunn and Safren have faith in Muschetti, he is going to helm "The Brave And The Bold" Batman movie.

Now I remember why I don't trust Gunn as a studio head/producer.

[Weekday Thread | WED NUM - Spidey $6.4M TF7 $4.3M TLM $3.0M]

5 minutes ago, Mulder said:

So RoTB has been below Spider-Verse every day since Sunday. Thinking its weekend drop will be rough.

Hasn't it been behind since Sat?

[The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other]

The Flash has fallen a bit on RT. Down to 67%.

 

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_flash_2023

[The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other]

6 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

this whole damn movie has leaked all over twitter like a watergate file

And I don't feel like what and how it was leaked, is helping hype.

[The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other]

5 minutes ago, Issac Newton said:

Maoyan Forecast - ¥202M ($28.3M) largely because it will die on Dragon Boat Festival

 

For OW Forecast - ¥96.3M ($13.5M)

 

Reviews are largely positive - 

9.4⭐ Maoyan

 

9.6⭐ Taopiaopiao 

So 28m is the prediction for the whole run?