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34 minutes ago, across the Jat verse said:
proly 27 and 13
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1 hour ago, across the Jat verse said:
Yeah mid 30s mostly
Barbie performing like a superhero.
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21 minutes ago, Johnny Tran said:
I am way out of the loop for 'Sound of Freedom' so apologies if this has been asked. I didn't see any trailers for this movie. I didn't really see anything about it. I have heard some of the political discourse surrounding it but I've tried to stay away from that too.
Is the movie actually doing really well? Or is there some chicanery going on? I saw something about it's box office numbers "not being what they seem" but it wasn't on here.
What's going on with it? Is middle America really rushing out to see it in droves?
There's a bit of Pay It Forward, allowing some to buy tickets for others; you can hop over to their site to see how readily available tickets are.
But really, this is American Sniper again. Hyper targeted film for that specific demo. Folks forget AS did $350 million domestic.
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2 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:
Incidentally, that movie was the one where Hollywood officially said “Part 1 titles are a box office curse” and I have no idea what made them abandon that train of thought for MI…
Infinity War and Endgame made everyone think anyone could do it.
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There's a growing gap in the middle of the box office. The hits HIT HARD. But folks used to use their disposable income to maybe see a film that they weren't amazingly hyped for.
I think a combination of streaming and a lack of disposable income thanks to economic conditions means folks are willing to wait if it's not checking off their lists with pure 10s.
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36 minutes ago, Rainy said:
14.5 Friday per Charlie on twitter. Damn.
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1 hour ago, TheFlatLannister said:
GREATER ORLANDO REGION
Barbie
Thursday
T-6
SHOWINGS
SEATS SOLD
TOTAL SEATS
PERCENT SOLD
195
5662
35109
16.1%
*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST
SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY
456 SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY
0
SELLOUTS
1
EA
T-5
SHOWINGS
SEATS SOLD
TOTAL SEATS
PERCENT SOLD
9
1491
1747
85.3%
SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY
7 SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY
0
SELLOUTS
6
COMPS
T-6
*Excludes any EA
(3.108x) of RoTB
~$27.3M THUR Previews
(3.100x) of Fast X
~$23.3M THUR Previews
(1.223x) of ATSV
~$21.22M THUR Previews
(0.813x) of GOTG 3
~$14.2M THUR Previews
Comps AVG: $21.5M THUR Previews
9th straight day its increased against comps.
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3 hours ago, Eric Stickell said:
Quorum Updates
Haunted Mansion T-15: 46.98% Awareness
Talk to Me T-15: 20.9% Awareness
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem T-20: 45.93% Awareness
The Meg 2: The Trench T-22: 37.57% Awareness
Gran Turismo T-29: 24.86% Awareness
The Last Voyage of the Demeter T-29: 18.41% Awareness
The Equalizer 3 T-50: 36.85% Awareness
Five Nights at Freddy's T-106: 32.28% Awareness
Barbie T-8: 63.87% Awareness
Final Awareness: 100% chance of 40M, 94% chance of 50M, 81% chance of 60M, 62% chance of 70M, 44% chance of 100M
Strays T-36: 27.9% Awareness
T-30 Awareness: 51% chance of 10M, 16% chance of 20M
Original - Low Awareness: 35% chance of 10M, 5% chance of 20M
Haunted Mansion matching TMNT awareness. Huh. I feel like the latter should be higher, but that's gut talking.
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5 minutes ago, Porthos said:
If it's gonna do well anywhere, it'd be Orlando (even against a fellow Disney comp).
Ah, that's an excellent point!
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1 hour ago, TheFlatLannister said:
GREATER ORLANDO REGION
HAUNTED MANSION
THURSDAY
T-17
SHOWINGS
SEATS SOLD
TOTAL SEATS
PERCENT SOLD
111
1173
19452
6.0%
*numbers taken as of 6:00pm EST
SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY
45 SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY
0
SELLOUTS
0
COMPS
T-17
(0.564x) of TLM
~$5.8M THUR Previews
Surprised it's doing as well as it is given the lack of promotion.
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The response to this tells me Marvel can get itself out of its doldrums once the X-Men enter the picture.
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3 hours ago, baumer said:
Just because he has stated publicly that things like adrenochrome is real that's not a qanon thing. And it doesn't make you a raving psychotic to have the belief that people do kill kids to get their adrenaline flowing and use that blood for whatever they use it for. In places like Vietnam South Korea North Korea Thailand and so on the same kind of theory is used when they torture animals before they eat them. They have the belief that the more scared and in physical pain that an animal is in, the adrenaline creates better tasting meat. So it's not like the adrenochrome theory is something brand new created by qanon.
The hell?
Are you serious? I can't even be kind about this take. The adrenochrome theory is A] definitely Qanon related and B] absolutely in no way a belief that you can have and just be fine. Negative. There is literally an extremist action based entirely around this conspiracy theory.
I gotta step away if this is the kind of thing folks can just post with no pushback.
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5 hours ago, SLAM! said:
Believer here, so I should post my take:
- I like the movie in and of itself
- I dislike Caviezel’s engagement with QAnon, because many of their conspiracies are based in falsehood
- I saw the film before I knew about the ties to QAnon and feel slightly deceived
- If someone wants to see it, I still encourage them to see it, but because I know that they’re the demographic that’s interested
- I want to keep the QAnon stuff in mind as I discuss the movie so that even if people continue seeing the movie, they might not be led astray into believing lies perpetuated by QAnon
- Hey, if people don’t want to see it, if they don’t want to buy tickets, that’s perfectly fine, that’s their right, and I respect their decision especially if it’s a decision made in response to its ties to QAnon
- The cinematography is fantastic, great imagery, and I will campaign this for cinematography at the Boffies even if I’m the butt of a joke for it
- Not Ballard for Hero due to QAnon
- But yes for Trafficking for the Villain category
I just want to say, this is all well and good! 👍 Go ahead and watch the film if you want to. I won't personally, but I'm just one rando. Just want folks to not downplay stuff tied to the film, as some have.
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47 minutes ago, rebelscum86 said:
Had a final thought on this. So what is enough to make someone be labelled Qanon? At an academic level disbelieving any part of the above means you do not believe in Qanon. For a statement to be true all it's propositions must be true. This is how fact checkers operate. It is unfair to apply fact checking standards to everyone else, but not to media.
Now it is true that fact checking can be seen as pedantic, so we could say the leading proposition of Qanon is that a govt official was making anonymous promises. I would definitely say that someone has to believe this part to be called a Qanono believer.
But maintain since the media uses fact checkers, their headlines should be held to the standard of fact checking which is all propositions must be true for the statement to be true. It's good to be mindful of how media plays with language like this.The adrenochrome conspiracy comes from QAnon.
Caviezel, as I've shown multiple times, openly believes in the adrenochrome conspiracy. I have outlined why that is bad. Conspiracies like this and the Wayfair conspiracy actually get in the way of legitimate child trafficking investigations. The latter was in 2021, for example.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/interactive/2021/wayfair-qanon-sex-trafficking-conspiracy/
QuoteHuman trafficking investigators at the Department of Homeland Security, who had to pause active investigations to sort out what was happening with Wayfair, would find no evidence to support any of the allegations. Wayfair’s staff, bombarded with threats, would realize how the pricing anomalies were happening. Anti-trafficking organizations, inundated with callers, would beg the public to stop sharing bogus stories that made their work harder.
Further on Caviezel himself.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-hollywoods-jesus-jim-caviezel-went-full-qanon
QuoteBut while talking about his new movie Sound of Freedom, Caviezel went on a wild tangent about a QAnon conspiracy theory called “adrenochroming.” The event’s 4,500-strong crowd had a decent showing of raised hands when asked if they were familiar with the term. Essentially, it’s an insane theory rooted in anti-Semitism (and the Pixar film Monsters, Inc.) that liberal elites and members of Hollywood are secretly killing children in order to harvest adrenochrome from their blood for psychedelic experiences, satanic rituals, and even to extend their lifespan.
“I’ll just simplify it,” he began. “When you are scared, you produce adrenaline. You’re an athlete, you get in the fourth quarter, you have adrenaline that comes out. If a child knows he’s going to die, his body will secrete this adrenaline. They have a lot of terms that they use that [Tim Ballard] takes me through, but it’s the worst horror I’ve ever seen. The screaming alone, even if I’d never, ever, ever, ever saw it, it’s beyond.”
“These people that do it,” he paused, seeming to hold back tears. “There’ll be no mercy for them.”
So, when one talks about Qanon beliefs, we are pointing, in this case, to the linked adrenochrome conspiracy, which is, to be clear, entirely nonsense. Again, as I've stated before, his own words. Words he has openly tied Ballard to. Caviezel has also attended many events adjacent to Qanon beliefs. Openly! He does not shy away from this, in the same way Kyrie does not shy away from his flat earther beliefs.
These beliefs are tied to the film by Caviezel and Ballard. I am not making connections that they have not stated, and you can see their beliefs in previous posted videos. Does the director and producers believe the same? I have no clue. I do know that they have let the tying of those beliefs to the film by their star go unchallenged. Whether that is because they believe the same or simply believe it's a profitable route, I do not know.
Now, similar to Terrific, I may dip on discussing the matter with you, because the facts of the matter are openly at hand. I have little interest quibbling on terminology with you instead of those facts.
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24 minutes ago, Mr Terrific said:
Gonna dip out of this thread for the night. Maybe I will permanently as I’ve undeniably taken up a good chunk of space.
Peace(Really)
It is good to realize when folks won't meet in the middle and walk away. No reason to waste one's precious time fighting on the internet too long. Cheers.
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3 hours ago, M37 said:
Also, why are we getting budget/bombing articles in weekend 2? Indy had a fairly standard week 2 drop, not crashing like Flash - this result has been known for a couple of weeks now
Just seems a lot of people are eager to use it as a punching bag, guess some missed their opportunity with holiday weekend
Slow news week. Nothing else other than that and an impending strike.
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11 minutes ago, rebelscum86 said:
And the whole, but Caveizel! argument is so disegenous when talking about "understanding" the coverage, or the coverage being apropriate. Hollywood is full of awful addictive, abusive people who treat other human beings horribly, actual actions taken, and these people release movie after movie without every headline pairing a rape or abuse with the movie title.
The Flash wasn't called the child trafficker or woman choker movie in every headline. Polanski and Allen got to release movies without associating their titles with their abuse.
Everyone in the industry knows Bryan Singer abuses underage teens. Drew Bailey finished Superman Returns b/c Singer was ran out of Australia over an "incident".
But Caviezel a dad who managed to stay married to the same woman for 27 years is supposedly awful and dangerous b/c he thinks wrong and his movie should be labelled the qanon movie. Anyone who views life that way needs to get over self.Lemme put a pin in the whataboutism. Didn't see The Flash for the reason you state, despite being a very big fan of the characters and acknowledging that the crew was much more than just Miller. Fine with cutting Majors, Polanski, Allen, Singer, and Spacey. I have no fear or problem in remaining remarkably consistent.
I've given you Caviezel's own words (Ballard too) in regards to promotion of the film. Nothing disingenuous there at all. I have not added or embellished anything.
If you want to go see the film, by all means. You're (theoretically) an adult. I don't know you. I merely want folks to acknowledge what is being tied to the film by proponents of the production, and how a success will raise all ships.
9 minutes ago, OncomingStorm93 said:I think multiple things can be true at once:
1: The film itself, in a vacuum, appears to be a quality product that's not inherently conspiratorial
2: The film is produced by and frontlined by highly conspiratorial people
3: Child sex trafficking is a real problem, pedophilia in certain elite circles is a real problem
4: The film is acting as and being promoted within conservative media as a dog whistle for Qanon
5: The film's release rollout and box office success are worth studying
All in all, a perfectly engineered culture war trojan horse, which I'm sure was the intent of the producer and promoters. On the surface to a casual viewer, mostly innocuous stuff, but designed to get the uninitiated into the rabbit hole, while turning a profit from those already in the cult. All while churning the culture waters like we're seeing here right now.
I largely agree with all of this. My issue is in those who try to minimize or ignore 2 and 4.
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56 minutes ago, baumer said:
who hate Jim caviezel because, insert reason here
I've told you exactly what Caviezel has said, in his own words, in regards to the promotion of this film.
And you have no answer for that.
22 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:It's weird to me to see "how the film is being promoted" b/c outside of the Pay It Forward website, Angel Studios is doing almost no direct promotion b/c they don't have the money to pay for it.
So, it's more a "how the internet is promoting the movie" vs "how the studio is running a campaign" b/c they never crowdfunded the money for a campaign. And folks are putting all sorts of "stuff" on this movie from all sides based on really nothing actually in the movie. Now, that's happened before, and even recently (ask Disney), but it tends to be for the "bigger" movies, although I guess after $40M already in the bank, we might have to consider this as a bigger movie.
As I sit here, I see a small "indy" movie bought by a big studio, buried by a 2nd, and resurrected by a 3rd. And now chaos b/c it's made more than anyone in that chain (and pretty much everywhere) probably ever thought it could.
Again, Caviezel is the star. *he* directly, specifically, is tying the film to these causes. There's nothing to make up.
These. are. his. words.
This is Jim Ballard, the man the film is about, in an interview with Caviezel.
This is a interview *for the film*. The poster is right there in the background. Watch the video, listen to what he's saying, and then tell me it's all fine.
Now look, if you want to just focus on the film and not the talk of the star and the man the film is about, in tandem with the film's promotion, then fine. But say it with your chest. "I only care about the film and not anything directly tied to it." I'm not making anything up or bringing anything extra to the table. I'm just telling you their own words. Whether you care is up to you.
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There is a version of this film that's fine.
But with Caviezel in the lead and how he has tied his conspiratorial views to the film's promotion, with no pushback from the film's producers, we've trended away from that ideal. And that's before we even talk about some of the issues surrounding Ballard.
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12 minutes ago, rebelscum86 said:
Curious, are people who believe in aliens or big foot morally dubious? I don't understand what's wrong with believing in adrenochrome?
Because once you decided that your enemies are kidnapping children to harvest their blood, it justifies you doing whatever you want to them.
Pizzagate was literally that conspiracy theory.
QuotePolice said 28-year-old Edgar Maddison Welch, of Salisbury, N.C., walked in the front door of Comet Ping Pong and pointed a firearm in the direction of a restaurant employee. The employee was able to flee and notify police. Police said Welch proceeded to discharge the rifle inside the restaurant; they think that all other occupants had fled when Welch began shooting.
The restaurant’s owner and employees were threatened on social media in the days before the election after fake news stories circulated claiming that then-Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and her campaign chief were running a child sex ring from the restaurant’s backrooms. Even Michael Flynn, a retired general whom President-elect Donald Trump has tapped to advise him on national security, shared stories about another anti-Clinton conspiracy theory involving pedophilia. None of them were true. But the fake stories and threats persisted, some even aimed at children of Comet Ping Pong employees and patrons. The restaurant’s owner was forced to contact the FBI, local police, Facebook and other social-media platforms in an effort to remove the articles.
It is also related to groups like Veterans on Patrol committing acts of harassment and violence at the border.
https://soundslikehate.org/season-three/the-unwelcome/
EDIT: There are more benign conspiracy theories to be sure. This is not one of them. And the fact that it's related to a real problem is one of the issues. But ignoring the effects of it is not the way to go.
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As I said elsewhere:
I mean, searching #SoundofFreedom on Twitter and selecting Top, not Latest, brought gems like this.
A quick look at the video shows the star of the film talking about the adrenochrome conspiracy and how this movie will shine a light on that truth.
Now, you can ignore that and just focus on the movie, but yeah, the star is *openly* promoting the conspiracy theories in tandem with the film.
To add on:
QuoteAnd the film’s star, Caviezel, has openly embraced the extreme movement, suggesting at media events that a shadowy international cabal is kidnapping children to consume their organs.
QuoteThat’s partially because Ballard and the actor who plays him, Caviezel, have both expressed support for some of the QAnon’s movement’s wildest claims.
Ballard once entertained a viral theory that claimed the online furniture retailer Wayfair was selling children, sometimes packing them into overpriced storage cabinets. “Law enforcement’s going to flush that out and we’ll get our answers sooner than later,” he said in a July 2020 Twitter video. “But I want to tell you this: children are sold that way.” There is no evidence to support the theory, which has inspired threats against employees and impeded actual child trafficking investigations.
QuoteHe has focused on one QAnon belief in particular while promoting “Sound of Freedom”: the idea that child traffickers drain children’s blood to harvest a life-giving substance called adrenochrome.
Speaking at a QAnon-affiliated conference in Oklahoma in 2021, the actor said Ballard wanted to join him but “he’s down there saving children as we speak, because they’re pulling kids out of the darkest recesses of hell right now, in … all kinds of places, uh, the adrenochroming of children.”
The moderator asked him to elaborate. “If a child knows he’s going to die, his body will secrete this adrenaline,” Caviezel said, his voice catching. “These people that do it, there’ll be no mercy for them. This is one of the best films I’ve ever done in my life. The film is on Academy Award level.”
The star is actively using the film to promote those beliefs, which are without harm and not within a vacuum.
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9 hours ago, TwoMisfits said:
But it's not actually a faith-based movie. I think that's the previous poster's point.
9 hours ago, Borobudur said:Nothing in the trailer nor review indicate SoF is a faith-based movie. It is straight out an action movie, only to have its marketing tactic heavily targeting church-going crowd.
Oh, then someone should say something, because the perception is it's a faith-based project. Probably due to the status of the production company.
https://www2.cbn.com/news/entertainment/sound-freedom-ranks-no-1-movie-america-truly-awe-inspiring
1 hour ago, DAJK said:Insidious falling off the map tonight. Wouldn’t be surprised with like an 8M Saturday.
WOM is hitting much, much harder these days.
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22 minutes ago, Borobudur said:
Surprise female turnout for SOF at 57% given the action thriller feel of the movie. Wonder if it is because of child issue connect more with mothers than fathers.
"This is exactly how a faith-based movie plays."
It says so right in the article you quoted.
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Weekend Thread | Estimates - Barbie $53M (hit a billion!), Meg2 $30M, Oppy $28.7, TMNT - $27.95M (5-day $43M), HauntedMansion $8.97M
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That they're using Dark Arts to remain that high?