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7 hours ago, Danhjpn said:
Ok, do you know when all of these events happen? How much is the chance for this film to win any of them?
St. Louis, Las Vegas, Chicago are regional small level stuff those don’t matter.
National Society of Film Critics does not have a animation category, or do nominations, or runner-ups, etc. They just announce winners. Heron wouldn’t get anything there. Anatomy of a Fall or Zone of Interest will win best Foreign Film. And winning any of the other categories of Best film, director, or screenplay doesn’t make any sense as a result. It competing with live action movies there that they will always prefer, and honoring Scorsese’s possible last movie (KOTFM) is more important to them than Miyazaki’s possible last movie.
Golden Globes is more like a casual popularity contest. This would be the first time Miyazaki is even nominated and it’s probably only cause it came out in December. High brow stuff like this doesn’t appeal there.
BAFTA is probably an easy win for Spiderverse. Empire Magazine had Spiderverse as their #5 movie of the year, and two time BAFTA winner Daniel Kaluuya (British) is part of the voice cast for that movie, and one of the more prominent characters. Three time BAFTA nominee Daniel Pemberton (British) also wrote the score. I don’t see Heron winning there at all.
Annie Awards Spiderverse will win all the technical rewards, and probably the best animated feature award. Heron will win best director, storyboarding, writing, and best independent film. They have a best overseas animation, and best animation overall category.
Heron can win critics choice for best animated feature. Will it? Don’t know. But it’s more likely than anywhere else.That’s about how it will shake out.
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This should be an easy 5 with Guardians, Spiderverse, Creator, Godzilla, and Dungeons nominated in the end but I’m sure they’ll mess it up.
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6 minutes ago, Squire said:
Kind of surprised they’d start development on the next film without knowing how Part 2 is gonna perform.
It’s even more surprising when you remember they literally did the same exact thing already with BVS and Justice League to disastrous results.
Guess they learned nothing.
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48 minutes ago, MysteryMovieMogul said:
The most likely case? Mario wins. I just don't see Spidey winning due to the film's lack of an ending, and I don't see Elemental winning, because Disney has too much baggage this year for many folks.
Even worse take then that guy who said Elemental was going to win.
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1 minute ago, Cmasterclay said:
Huge miss for Iron Claw and Color Purple. Color Purple still has Globes and SAG to rebuild, Iron Claw might be fucked. Feels like the top nine there, minus Spiderverse and plus Anatomy (ineligible for AFI) might be our lineup. I'm not totally ruling out Color Purple yet though.
They still could have given Anatomy a special award but didn’t.
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35 minutes ago, filmlover said:
Spider-Verse is the only movie in this lineup that seems highly unlikely to make it in the end. Both Netflix projects being strong acting showcases makes them pretty safe for nominations at this point.
Another one of those will get pushed out for one of Anatomy/Zone of Interest.
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1 hour ago, Maggie said:
The Holdovers was so uneventful. I don't get the hype
Felt like a standard 1980’s Christmas movie I’d seen a thousand times before. Very predictable and by the books.
Which I get is what it was going for, but why is that Oscar worthy?
Cause the academy is mostly old people that miss that style of movie?
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Best Godzilla movie.
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37 minutes ago, cannastop said:
Maybe there was an informal rule that since it was a top film it couldn't win Animated? IDK
I think it’s the reverse.
KOTFM won best film but isn’t on Top films list either, which also doesn’t make any sense.
I guess you are ineligible for Top Film if you take one of the top prizes.
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National Board of Review awards:
Boy and the Heron made it into Top film, but lost to Spiderverse in best animated feature.
Soul was best animated and top film so I know one movie can be both.
Maybe it didn’t have the votes, but they still wanted to honor Miyazaki hence the split?
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No May December this time.
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National Board of Review:
Best Animated Feature:
Spiderman Across the Spiderverse
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Glad Suzume got some love.
Don’t see how Spiderverse doesn’t win in that lineup unless they go full populist with Mario.
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$7M-$13M Range.
3 day forecast $10.2M
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4 minutes ago, Torontofan said:
They should rerelease the film during Xmas to keep the Oscar Buzz and try to get it to 1 billion.
Oscar Campaign rereleases don’t do $47M.
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https://criticstop10.com/best-movies-of-2023/
1. KOTFM
2. Past Lives
3. Oppenheimer
4. Zone of Interest
5. Anatomy of a Fall
6. The Holdovers
7. May December
8. Poor Things
9. Barbie
10. Showing up.
Currently includes 23 lists.
Usually goes up to around 1000.Will change around as more critics are included.
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50 minutes ago, TMP said:
I think Americans are just intrinsically dumber people on average tbh
I can’t agree with that. It’s not an intelligence thing.
It’s that the knowledge needed to understand it in its entirety is not something anyone would have except Ghibli die hards or highbrow critics.
Miyazaki’s personal life, close coworkers, and previous filmography, etc.
It’s targeted at a very specific group.
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It will play like small scale KOTFM imo.
Great pre-sales, and A or A- Cinemascore pointing to big opening and leggy run.
For it to end up being front loaded by Miyazaki fans, not have much walk ups, and collapse soon after for sub 3X legs.
Will probably still do $20M+, which will make it highest grossing original anime film unless it starts nosediving mid opening weekend once word gets around it isn’t family or kid friendly.
IMBD fluctuates between 7.5-7.7 but is holding.
Letterboxd went up a bit to 4.03 (which makes sense since it isn’t really GA friendly but more of a filmbro movie).
Rotten Tomotes verified score is weirdly inactive with still under 50 but not really all that great with the 82 it has now.
Only big change in user score I see is Metacritic, which doesn’t really mean anything but I mention cause it the only one with meaningful movement. Got a whole bunch of negatives and went down to 6.4 after it went slightly wider with the IMAX showings.
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Michigan Film Critics Guild Winners:
Best Picture
Barbie
Best Director
Greta Gerwig – Barbie
Best Actress
Emma Stone – Poor Things
Best Actor
Paul Giamatti – The Holdovers (tie)
Jeffrey Wright – American Fiction (tie)
Best Supporting Actress
Da’Vine Joy Randolph – The Holdovers
Best Supporting Actor
Ryan Gosling – Barbie
Best Animated Film
Spider-Man: Across The Spider-Verse
Best Documentary
Still: A Michael J. Fox Movie
Best Ensemble
Oppenheimer
Best Screenplay (Adapted or Original)
Anatomy of a Fall
Breakthrough Award
Cord Jefferson – Director, American Fiction
Stunts
John Wick: Chapter 4 (tie)
Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning Part One (tie)
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Atlanta Film Critics Winners:
Best Picture Top 10: 1. OPPENHEIMER 2. KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON 3. THE HOLDOVERS 4. PAST LIVES 5. BARBIE 6. MAY DECEMBER 7. SPIDER-MAN: ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE 8. AMERICAN FICTION 9. ANATOMY OF A FALL 10. POOR THINGS
Best Director Christopher Nolan – OPPENHEIMER
Best Lead Actor Cillian Murphy – OPPENHEIMER
Best Lead Actress Lily Gladstone: KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON
Best Supporting Actor Robert Downey Jr. –
OPPENHEIMER & Ryan Gosling – BARBIE (TIE)
Best Supporting Actress Da’Vine Joy Randolph – THE HOLDOVERS
Best Ensemble Cast OPPENHEIMER
Best Screenplay Christopher Nolan – OPPENHEIMER
Best Documentary STILL: A MICHAEL J. FOX MOVIE
Best Foreign Language Film ANATOMY OF A FALL
Best Animated Film SPIDER-MAN: ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE
Best Cinematography Hoyte van Hoytema – OPPENHEIMER
Best Original Score Ludwig Göransson: OPPENHEIMER
Best Stunt Work JOHN WICK: CHAPTER 4
Best Breakthrough Performer Lily Gladstone: KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON
Best First Feature Film Celine Song – PAST LIVES
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13 minutes ago, John Marston said:
rumors are Tobey’s Spider-Man and Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine will play a big part in Secret Wars. Still they can’t keep playing those cards forever
Better than hoping the current line-up, and Young Avengers alone can carry a movie.
Cause they definitely can’t.
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1 hour ago, grim22 said:
This does feel like a letdown for the return of John Woo to Hollywood, in terms of marketing, reviews and box office.
It’s deserved.
Movie was terrible.
Best Animated Feature 2023
in And The Winner Is...
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I’d hope so since Shinkai actually campaigned for it and did Q&A’s.