Spike071
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4 minutes ago, Jonwo said:
Probably never, X-Men vs Avengers would be more likely.
Yeah an MCU and Star Wars crossover seemed forced and tacky. I think we might get some FF/Avengers and X-Men/Avengers crossovers that ultimately builds to an all hands on deck, all-Marvel mega event featuring everyone. Onslaught maybe? Secret Wars? Something of that scope.
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People in this thread are getting excited by the millions upon millions of dollars this movie is making while simultaneously getting upset that the movie's star is getting paid a lot of money...
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7 minutes ago, Rumpot said:
check out some delusional Terrence Howard interviews about how he got Downey the part and is owed 100 million. His loss was Don Cheadle's gain for sure...bad move. But I do agree with what you're saying
Oh man, I think about Terrance Howard every time there's a big War Machine scene in an MCU movie. I mean, I get that he was a critical darling around the time they were casting the first Iron Man, having starred in two big Oscar movies in 2005. He probably thought (or at least the people advising him thought) he was going to become a massive movie star.
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25 minutes ago, MCKillswitch123 said:
This reminds me: among the many, many records this movie broke, one of them was the April OW record by a difference of over 100M.
Guess who was one of the stars of that previous record holder
Damn, I remember back in the BOM forums days when I was a much more active poster it being a big deal when Anger Management became the first $40 million April opener. Infinity War basically did that in 5 hours Thursday night lol.
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2 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:
Disney should announce Avengers 5, 6, and 7 now.
Disney will announce Avengers movies whenever they damn well please. They know they can do whatever the hell they want.
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The Force Awakens' 3 opening weekend days are currently in the top 36 days of all time. Pretty impressive. However, Infinity War's 3 opening weekend days should easily land in the top 20, and could get closer to top 15. Hooo-leeeyy shit
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I saw Infinity War for a second time today at 9 am. I can't speak to The Force Awakens, but I did see The Last Jedi at this exact time (9:00 on the first Sunday.) When I saw TLJ most of the seats were empty. This morning I watched Infinity War in a sold out theater.
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I had this random memory this weekend. I thought back to the fall of 2005 when I was working in the electronics department of Walmart. One of my co-workers had never seen a superhero movie before and he decided to buy every DVD he could get his hands on in our store. We're talking some true classics; the 2005 Fantastic Four, Ben Affleck's Daredevil, Nicholas Cage's Ghostrider, and Ang Lee's Hulk were four of his purchases. We talked about the superhero movie genre as something of a dying entity. Despite the commercial success of Rami's Spider-Man and the critical success of Batman Begins, it felt like comic book movies as a whole had run their course and fatigue was setting in.
This was three full years before Iron Man. Simply astounding to see where we are today.
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Maybe it's an inevitability as we get older but I don't think I like this trend of movies based on real events that I clearly remember happening in my adult life. It also doesn't help that there are so many (Sully, Deepwater Horizen, this) coming out in a short period of time.
As for this movie, it's going to be tough for me. I was working a half mile from the bombs when they went off. I was ultimately safe, but the terror I felt amid the chaos of that day was real. I remember the surrealness of going back to work two days after the bombings (and two days before they caught the suspect) walking to the office in an area typically occupied by young professionals and coffee shops and seeing heavily armed military personnel patrolling the streets.
I remember staying up all night and watching the police shoot it out with the two suspects on the news like it was some action movie. I remember being essentially locked indoors the next day as the manhunt for the remaining living suspect took place.
The week was scary and surreal and 3 and a half years later I still remember every detail. Having said that, I remember the heroism and the pride I felt to be born and raised in Massachusetts. I still feel that pride today and I think the movie will do a good job touching that emotion. I'll probably end up seeing it, but I know I don't have to because I'll never forget anything from that week.
Fun fact: I'm friends with the daughter of the police officer Mark Whalberg's character is loosely based on.
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Funny line on reddit this morning: Batman v Superman has worse legs than Barbara Gordon.
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13 minutes ago, wildphantom said:
I understand relativity just fine.
But $900 million isn't a disaster.
Especially with a genre that's as much about the merchandise as anything. Batman and Superman will be shifting plenty of it.
X-Men is marvel's biggest comic. Fox are spending a fortune on Apocalypse and that isn't getting anywhere near a billion dollars this summer. Will that be a disaster? Nope.
I think there's value in speculating as to what the mixed reaction will mean for audience appetite for the rest of the DC slate. But as far as the box office goes, calling it a 'disaster' is laughable in my opinion.
I respect that people believe it. I'll also expect them to apply it to every other $200 million movie that doesn't make a billion dollars from now on.
You're still missing the point. It's not about how much money you make - it's about how much money you could have made but didn't. Why do you think athletes and actors making $10+ million are always renegotiating their contracts once they see their peers making more than them? The market has changed and now the money they were happy with a minute ago feels insulting. If you saw Batman v Superman you probably saw the trailer for "War Dogs." The first joke in the trailer addresses this very thing. They're happy that they won the government contract with the price they quoted until they discovered it was $50 million lower than the next lowest bidder.
So is $900 million good? Yes it is. Batman v Superman will make money with this take and its merchandise sales. But imagine if the movie made the same in merchandising AND grossed over $1 billion? That would be even better. And it's not like this was a pipe dream. With the concept for this film, the money was there for the taking if Snyder made a good movie. Don't kid yourself into thinking that's not the case.
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10 minutes ago, cannastop said:
Where was this? Manhattan?
AMC in Danvers Massachusetts - about a half hour north of Boston.
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BTW, I meant to report this yesterday, but I saw BvS for the fourth time yesterday morning and the theater was packed. It was the second busiest showing after that 6pm premiere on that opening Thursday night.
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7 minutes ago, wildphantom said:
All along I've thought around $900 million, and that was before anyone saw it. With word as mixed as it is, it's still a gigantic number. We're in trouble if we think almost a billion dollars is a disaster.
I can't see anyone declaring it underwhelming if Jungle Book doesn't make a billion dollars, falling short with $900 million. That would be seen as a huge hit and we all know Disney have spent a shit load on it. A film that will generate nowhere near the merchandise revenue of BvS.
Yes I know it's BATMAN and SUPERMAN, but it's far from a disaster.
You're thinking about it the wrong way. Batman v Superman isn't the 90000000th remake of a Disney cartoon. It's the two most iconic characters in from what is right now the most popular genre in film. It was the FIRST ON SCREEN MEETING between these characters. I think people are missing that this was supposed to be a once-in-a-lifetime holy shit moment on film, and the creative team dropped the ball.
You have to understand relativity. I don't know if you're a sports fan or not, but it would be like the New England Patriots going 9-7 next year - which would be bad for that franchise - and you saying "That's not bad. If the Cleveland Browns did that it would be good."
The fact is that WB is leaving a LOT of money on the table because Snyder made a poorly received movie (a movie that I actually like! But that's besides the point.) When you're as rich as studio execs, you don't think about the money you made. You think about the money you didn't make. To rich guys (and gals) making $900 million on a movie that could have made $1.2 billion isn't a gain of $900 million, it's a loss of $300 million.
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11 minutes ago, GiantCALBears said:
Amazing to think some of us saw it in the five figure range in views.
That's how it starts
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2 minutes ago, BoxOfficeZ said:
This should be added to our emoticon list.
I want Sad Affleck to become the new crying Michael Jordan. Or at least the nerd version of Crying Michael Jordan.
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I'm watching Man of Steel for the 686846372864782647823764724th time.
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53 would be really great. I'll take 135 in two days. Once I realized $200 million was a ridiculous fantasy (which was around 6:05 pm eastern time on Tuesday) my only goals were for this to become the highest March opener (locked) and to become the highest Batman opening (all but locked I think.)
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8 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:
If they were expecting 200M to come easily than that were off their rocker and ors only their fault if they're disappointed
I don't see why $200 million was so outrageous. The two most iconic superheroes of all-time in a "sequel" to the highest opening non-sequel ever featuring a character who has singlehandedly broken the opening weekend record four times already. With better reviews and marketing this movie would have his 200M, even with the mixed reactions to Man of Steel.
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I know we're talking about huge numbers here, but I refuse to believe this is what WB and DC had in mind when this project was announced. They were expecting weekend and total gross numbers closer to The Avengers and Jurassic World, and they're lying if they say any different. I think with reviews and audience (not fanboy) reactions akin to your standard above average Marvel movie, this would have got there. Meaning, by making a critically unsuccessful movie, Snyder lost around $40 million on opening weekend and god knows how much on total gross.
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19 minutes ago, Biggestgeekever said:
Come at me if you want for saying this, but while I'm sure WB will be relieved with a $1B, I don't think they'll be particularly "thrilled." There's no chance they weren't envisioning an Avengers esque $1.5B gross while this project was coming together. If it crawls over the billion dollar mark, it's not exactly a cause for celebration.
I'm with you. Now, I actually like the movie, but I think the reviews will keep it from sniffing its potential. There's no reason why a well-received movie couldn't have done Avengers numbers.
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Off to see viewing number two! I'll report back what the theater was like. Will be interesting to see theater numbers for 10 am on a weekday.
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2 minutes ago, grey ghost said:
What score would you give MOS?
Man of Steel is my all-time favorite superhero movie. It's an easy 10/10.
Having said that, I remember not liking it as much after the first viewing, mainly because editing and pacing. Back on that June night in 2013, I probably would have rated Man of Steel lower than I'm rating Batman v Superman now. But once I got what Zack was going for, I embraced it and fell in love with it. Maybe that will happen here too?
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The only thing I can feasibly see surpassing this hype is a Secret Wars movie made by the Russos (who have said they want to do it) that combines both Secret Wars and Secret Wars 2 stories and has multiple realities converge. This is how they bring in the X-Men and Fantastic Four and it features the return of the OG Avengers. That could beat this. Other than that I can't see anything in the MCU that can.