Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. Popular YouTuber who dedicates her channel to box office analysis and film reviews. She has the best box office coverage as far as I can tell. She's also well known for her polarizing film reviews. Grace is able to articulate her points well, so it shouldn't be much of an issue.
  2. He has a strong influence on Wonder Woman and it's receiving warm reception. It supports the idea of retaining him in a recurring producing role. And if JL performs well or satisfactory critically and financially, that's not a forgone conclusion either.
  3. Lol how are they able to detail events in the production process with that precision, and ScreenJunkies of all film magazines? Were they peddling before that it was mess?
  4. On Movie Talk, she said again that she liked it despite second half pacing issues. Glimmers of hope and positivity made the film engaging for her but didn't fix other issues she couldn't elaborate on
  5. I think it's a great place to find a varying degree of opinions from film bloggers and certified critics. Compiled data usually points to a general consensus similar to those on RT. Enjoy it for its diversity of thought
  6. One negative review from letterboxd https://letterboxd.com/jvince/film/wonder-woman-2017/1/ First half: "Could it be? Have they finally got it?" Second half: "Nope. Nope." Gal Gadot and Chris Pine's chemistry? On point. Everything else? Trash. Cheesy as hell. Cheap-looking effects. Slo-mo galore. Lackluster writing. Riddled with pacing issues. Completely dropped the ball on Ares. Climactic battle is one, ugly, CGI-overloaded mess. But worst of all? The whole movie is, ultimately, utterly useless. No set-up whatsoever. You know the show Lost? You know that episode about Jack's tattoo? Wonder Woman is kind of like that episode (except with the requisite superhero action scenes spliced in). That WWI photo from Batman v. Superman = Jack's tattoo. Enjoy sitting through two and a half hours watching a movie about Wonder Woman's damn picture. I can't see how one can staunchly defend the DCEU after this. With Wonder Woman, it's as clear as day that these guys don't know what the heck they're doing.