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HT2 seems to have an exceptionally high percentage of its OS coming from China 44.7%. Does anyone know of higher percentages (or the record)?
TF4 had 37.3%, Titanic(incl.3D) had 12.4%
Spectre has 72.9% at the moment, but that will probably come down
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Job's biopic shows that critics and some yuppies in NY and CA don't represent the US as far as "I want to see this movie" goes.
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A big animated movie, that makes less than 60% of its WW in OS, is an oddity today. This year we have 3: In side out 57.8%, HT2 58.4% and Home 54.0%
Is Hollywood losing its touch with overseas markets? I was questioning this with last year's Lego Movie with only 45.0% (most of the OS coming from the English speaking world.
Last year was also the first time in like forever that no animated movie cracked the Top10 WW.
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On 24.10.2015, 16:03:03, MinaTakla said:
Amazing article at Forbes on the Minion success and its importance to the industry. It's as if the writer was reading the forum!
I couldn't have said it better!!
FORBES:
Even as someone who didn’t care for the last two Despicable Me films (I enjoyed the first one), there is something to be said about the “from-the-ground-up” popularity of the franchise.
It was an original property, not a rebooted franchise revival meant to cash in on nostalgia-driven adults and/or pre-sold IP value. And as annoying as you might find the Minions, they are not intended for you. They are pop culture icons created in this generation explicitly intended to be enjoyed by children of this generation. In an era where Hollywood seems dead-set on shoveling yesterday’s heroes down the throats of today’s children, that’s not nothing. I didn’t care for Minions, although my daughter did and it clearly brought much amusement to countless kids this summer.
When I was a kid, I would have bemoaned such a small and seemingly insignificant trifle of a movie reaching such box office milestones. Today it feels almost refreshing. But that’s a conversation we can have when a certain kid-friendly home invasion comedy turns 25 years old this November. So yeah, Minions, starring Sandra Bullock and Jon Hamm, has become (for the moment) the tenth-biggest movie of all time. I like surprises like that every once in awhile.
also totally agree with that - I hate it when I must see the xx-th version of a story I know since decades
definitely the first DM was the best (there are very few franchise where it is otherwise- maybe Godfather 2)
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Because nothing is as big as the Avengers now.
chances are that it will be only No.4 movie of 2015
nobody predicted that - funny
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the Despicable Me/Minions - franchise is the new Ice Age for the International market
The progression is awe inspiring : 300 - 600 - 800
compare this to other top-franchises:
Shrek: 220 - 480 - 480 - 510 - 400
Toy Story: 170 - 240 - 650
Madagascar: 340 - 420 - 530 - 290
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Yes, really has to be good to repeat the success of nr1. And let's not forget Bond - with Skyfall's 7,8mil admissions, expectations are stellar for "Spectre" but remember that neither CR nor QS reached 6mil (QS not even 5) - and Minions might do a bit more than 6mil. And Star Wars - while having a nice vibe - is far from a lock for 6mil, either. PM did it, but Episodes 2 and 3 didn't reach the 6mil (and left a sour aftertaste, even if 3 was the best of the prequesl imho - at least it's the only one I managed to sit through). As I said, 6mil is not easy for any movie, even the next Avatar might drop below that treshold if the story doesn't catch on.
All 3 Hobbitses had 6mill. Germans are true.
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Is Tom Cruise really huge in China?
probably not, but they love tiny men
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2015 has really bad OS numbers for the animated movies:
SpongeBob 148.6
Home 193.0
IO 117.3 (will grow but not overwhelming either)
2014 was even more terrible
BH6 429.6 (not so bad)
HttyD2 441.9 ( a lot less than predicted)
Rio2 368.7
Lego 211.0
Penguins 290.2
we need Minions doing well OS badly
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it bothers me that here only have dubbed into spanish in 2D
subtitles only in 3D and VIP ($17+)
In Vienna/Austria I can watch all movies in every format ( in English and German) I want.
I read that making a movie not available dubbed in the national language, was done to hurt the BO of that movie - and the country to "invent" that praxis were the United States. There are no foreign movies dubbed in English there. During Silent Movies aera they needed material and foreign movies made a lot of money there. When the talkies came, studios killed foreign competion by prohibiting English synchronization - very succesful
What is the reason for doing so in your country?
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Then why didn't anyone celebrate?
perhaps Universal is afraid of angering Disney
maybe they think that the empire will strike back at them - maybe even with a Star Wars movie
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OS Ice Age made 200, 450, 700
I think DM will be similar 300, 600, 900
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JW will definitely make over $95 this weekend. If it makes less than that, then IO could possibly do 70+, if more, than IO will probably stay at 60 to 65.
I don't see IO doing less than 60 at this point. The WOM hype is stellar right now.
right, but what Pixar movie had to compete with a monster, we all think will make between 85 to 110?
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Using increases and decreases similar to MOS gives you well over $100M this weekend, but I just don't see it playing like that, not with IO coming in. I'm thinking something around $90 million is a more realistic target.
MOS had Monsters University to compete with on 2nd weekend. Why should IO (an original) be more of a threat than this proven classic?
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INSIDE OUT will break the opening weekend record this weekend.
For original animated movies ($70.5m)?
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Define "close".
I think JW ~ IO+75%
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As long as it is beating TA1 numbers on weekends and TDK numbers on weekdays everything is possible. And OS Jurasic Park has more love than Marvel (except in Latin America maybe).
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so WW about equal with The Penguins
with 60% coming from English speaking countries - that is on par with average Pixar percentages but atleast not as bad as Lego Movie(74%)
Inside Out will have more than 60% from the English speaking world
Minions will have less than 50% for sure
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Before LOTR movies with medieval setting were never as successful in NA as in Europe. Peter Jackson changed that, but could not repeat that for Hobbit. The reasons are probably manyfold and you all have given very plausible ones. I as European could only guess. (btw I liked the Hobbit trilogy but one movie would have beeen enough).
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It would be interesting to know, why it took them so long for the sequel!
Were the stars from the original too greedy?
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Why the fuck would FR do only $1m more than AoU? That makes no sense.
maybe AoU has higher percentage of younger viewers, so MMFR has 2m more per weekday, but only 1m more per weekend?
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still needs some $$$ for Penguines WW
How can a film studio like Dreamworks ignore International Markets like this?
BTW: what is the most succesful movie with a black female main character (if AVATAR does not count)?
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Best-case scenario is they put Unkrich's Day of the Dead film in fall 2017 and Mark Andrews' sci-fi movie in summer 2018, with Cars or Incredibles in the fall of that year.
and when are they starting with an Universium where all there main characters assemble together to fight a common enemy?
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HT2 made $113m in China