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  1. and this effects how many people using MP?  maybe .01%.  I know people who go and they let others use it to go.. it takes that away. it probably should have been that way all along.. It has zero effect on any of my friends , you can count on one hand how many times i have seen a movie more than once in a theatre and not once since i had the pass.

  2. One thing you cant tell from the numbers is whats happening to some movies.  How many movies do parents take kids too that they wouldnt sit thru or take the kids if it was costing them money.  maybe 1 parent took 4 kids to see black panther because it was free with MP, the numbers will not show that scale..  I know as a kid there were lots of movies we never saw because my parents didnt want to pay to sit thru it.

  3. 10 hours ago, Porthos said:

     

     

    Some time in the last year they became damn near universal.  I'm sure there are still some isolated holdouts, but for the most part market forces ground the resistance into dust.

    just where are all these discount tuesdays?  never  been anywhere thats had one nor met anyone other than these boards who knows anything about them?

  4. I am not sure that thinking of this is a trilogy is correct. its the 8th , 9th movie..    this is not a short arc like Avangers, its a 40 year arc, that was building and diminished because of the story in 1-2-3, even in still setting records.  This one brought the gang back together, and by that i mean families, kids, grandparents and the 50-60 yr olds who loved star wars.

     

    How many series span enough time to have to 3 sets of fans, two of which love their trilogy?   its the same reason  this went huge because the model didnt know how to handle it.

     

    star wars went down in ep 5 because people who went out of curiosity knew whether they liked it and did or didnt go back for another round.   it didnt matter if the movie was good to those who didnt enjoy the taste they got from that story telling.

     

    Ep 8 will be far different, the curiosity factor will be far lower with an established 40 yr franchise.   This is why Bond can explode 50 years later, This time around it will purely be about the story and the reviews.  It will go huge with the fans out of the gate but if the story is there it will huge again.  The one thing that can hurt it is the next movie if it tanks for being bad.  but if its good it will fuel the fire even more.  Sure it can drop 30% , but its going to be at 500 million after 2 weeks again and it if its good it will be 850-900.

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  5. 31 minutes ago, Darth Rallax said:

    Let's say this does get some Oscar noms, at that point, how many people have not seen this yet?  Would it really help it that much?  I guess it would be one more interesting thing to find out.

    Of the people I know who want to see the movie, its about 50/50 who have. I know many who dont want to deal with crowds.. Several cant deal with 3d and made multiple attempts to see it in 2d but it was sold out since so few shows are in 2d.  Many are waiting until the weekend to try and go again.

  6. 21 minutes ago, TServo2049 said:

    All the claims that Star Wars made $307m in original release are wrong. That includes the 1978, 1979 and 1981 re-releases.

     

    It actually made $221.3m in its true first run, and $43.8m from the summer 1978 re-release. The first run adjusts to $827.6m or $854.4m, depending on whether I calculate based on BOM's 2015 adjuster or their 2016 adjuster. I have no idea what the yearly average will come out to be - averaging those two values comes out to $841m, and using BOM's current Q4 2015 guesstimate of $8.61 to get a rough 2015 guesstimate of $8.41 gives us $834.6m.

     

    That does seem low for how huge SW was, though the U.S. population was lower then. But there's a twist: I know people who do not consider the 1978 re-release a true re-release, but an extension of the first run, since the film was never out of theaters completely (at least one theater's engagement ran continuously through both releases). If you add the $43.8m of the 1978 "re-release" adjusted for inflation, you either get $1.016 billion at $8.61, or $983.7m at $8.34. Those two numbers average out to almost exactly $1 billion.

     

    Either way, I wonder if the 2009-present NATO yearly averages don't produce accurate adjustments/estimated admissions for heavy 3D/IMAX/PLF releases whose true average paid price would be higher than the official NATO average for the entire theatrical market. No matter how well TFA does, I just cannot bring myself to believe it will end with more tickets sold than the original, either including or excluding the 1978 reissue (especially not including), even with 38 years of population growth. Not from all I know about how ridiculously huge the movie was.

     

    redfirebird2008, are you still around?

    one thing that is far different today is the number of shows you can watch  a movie in today.. star wars sold out for 20+ weeks in my city.. there were 2 shows a day and 4 on a weekend for almost 30 weeks.  many people i knew never saw it because they couldnt.  back then no one drove beyond the closet local movieplex to see a movie.

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  7. 31 minutes ago, mikeymichael said:

    There's no way TFA grosses less than 90m this weekend. I see 34.4 -- 35.2 -- 23.6 = 93.2

    i dont know how places are doing Sat, but our local theater said they are dramatically busier today than what they had fri.   sold out every show from noon to 4 with huge lines of people waiting.  they said triple the business from what they say friday. 

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  8. Before home video, you didn't know if you would ever get to see the movie again. Imagine being a person who fell in love with Star Wars in 1977. You'd probably go see it dozens upon dozens of times because you weren't sure there would be another chance.

     

    I was a 13 yr old when star wars came out.. every week we begged our parents to go see it , finally in week 22 a neighbors kid came back into town and took us.   it was sold out for 25 weeks on our city. the wait in the 22 week was 1.5 hrs and we stood  outside 6 blocks away. 2 shows a day back then early and late.. all my friends loved it but there was no going back 2-3 times.  as a kid i never heard of anyone going to see a movie more than once. i never did until after college and that was only to take my dad or girlfriend who hadnt seen it.  even today none of my movie going friends go more than once, my kids may if they go with a different group of friends but it is vert rare

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