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31 minutes ago, ACSlater said:
ESPN Operating margins are ridiculous and we are on their backs to reduce it...frankly they need to fire close to ~40-70% of their talent and they wouldn't skip a beat...
I am not happy about Rex Ryan hire unless they can give me double benefits...
ESPN is going to start hemorraging money over the next 5 years or so. They are locked into some pretty hefty sports contracts signed before it became obvious that the loss of viewers was not isolated but would become a constant, yearly occurrence. They have no real way of making up the loss in subscriber fees which gets worse every year while contract payouts to leagues and conferences remains steady or increases.
At this rate, their collapse seems inevitable due to a shortsighted business model.
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1 hour ago, That One Guy said:
The first step for piracy sites to end is for the government to shut them down and make that shit fucking illegal (it already is, but they need to enforce it). Like jfc, if you want to cheat creators out of their money that they deserved otherwise, you can't legitimately claim yourself as a movie buff.
Which government is that? The one world government that controls the Internet? Hell, governments can't even protect their citizens from cybercrime, terrorism, blackmail and data theft. Online piracy is pretty low on the priority list and rightfully so.
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49 minutes ago, Christmas Baumer said:
I also think it should be a rule here that nobody is allowed to comment on a film's quality and less they have actually seen it.
I personally refrained from commenting on Doctor Strange and Fantastic Beasts until I saw them. Now I feel like I have every right to tell everyone how crappy they are because I actually sat through both of those Abominations of film.
I thought both films were . . . . okay . . . . but yeah, commenting on movies you haven't seen should be a permanent credibility killer. For FB and DS I'd say the special effects were probably the best features of the films. The story didn't really grab me in either one though I thought they had potential (missed potential). I thought Cumberbatch was solid in DS but for FB it's probably not a good sign that, for me at least, the best performance and most charismatic character in the film was Colin Farrell.
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22 hours ago, La Binoche said:
So because a lot of teenage girls in the US love the show and it has found a new audience on Netflix I'm not allowed to have an opinion on it? It sucks.
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2 minutes ago, DAR said:
Hartman's death is still super sucky.
Yes it was a highly . . . . . . "suckish" . . . . event. He was great on News Radio.
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5 hours ago, MovieMan89 said:
Sitcoms died for a reason, they suck.
This post would probably have more impact if there weren't about 25 sitcoms on prime time network television in the 2016-2017 broadcast year. And that doesn't include all the cable networks that have their own original comedy programming.
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9 hours ago, La Binoche said:
Loved Friends as a kid but it's so cringe now. Dated, not funny, too white. Hell, even The Golden Girls is more watchable now.
And that means what to this discussion? Whether you individually like Friends or not doesn't change the fact that a lot of teenage girls in the US love the show and it has found new generations of devoted fans in syndication and on Netflix.
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As a father of a 4 year old, Moana just doesn't seem to have that much buzz to me. I've seen items in stores and even some marketing at Disney World a week or two ago on a recent trip but it seems more like a "Tangled", "Chicken Little" or "Princess and the Frog" as one of those movies you look back and wonder . . . "When did that come out again?". Frozen didn't set the world on fire upon release. The song "Let it Go" was not only insanely popular as a cultural phenomenon but added a ton of visibility to the movie. Disney could not buy that kind of marketing. I believe it is what caused the long legs as people who ignored it when it opened finally became curious and did eventually go see the movie. As well as a lot of repeat viewings from children who saw the movie and became obsessed with it and the music. The longer a movie hangs around in theaters the more that WOM can take effect and the more repeat viewings you can have from the fanatical devotees.
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5 hours ago, Treecraft said:
Err... not sure what is childish about enjoying high fantasy.
Are you just being argumentative or do you not realize that 2/3rds of WOW players are college age or below and only 10% are above the age of 30. So basically, when people reach the age where they have families and responsibility they are no longer enjoying "high fantasy". And that doesn't even go into all the derogatory stereotypes floating around regarding such fans.
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15 minutes ago, Fullbuster said:
He didn't fool anybody, Americans are just racist, sexist morons.
Just let it go. It's over. There's no reason to insult millions of people because something doesn't go the way you want it to. There's an old saying that "you can tell more about a person by what he says about others than what others say about him". And if insulting other people you know nothing about makes you feel better about yourself . . . what does that really say about you?
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4 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said:
Seems I’m the only guy who think that Spider-Man 2 is the best comic book film.
Pretty much.
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2 hours ago, Krissykins said:
Break even? You're forgetting marketing costs.
Break even is recouping all money spent, not just some of it.
And you are ignoring the secondary revenue streams which can be as much if not MORE than the box office revenue. So considering marketing costs and secondary revenue to be a push is a perfectly valid and defendable approach to these types of rough "profit" estimates.
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I normally take reviews with a grain of salt but with that kind of consensus for this type of movie . . . this is now a must see for me.
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Any idea why Star Trek is getting an extra month in China?
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After Japan it will probably end up in the $340-345 million WW range. Even if it does as well as STID in Japan it's still not getting to Tarzan's $355m.
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I just saw the trailer to this film the other day. It looks like a good film but unfortunately it doesn't seem like an "event" movie. With a budget that big it has to be something people feel compelled to see in the theater. If I end up watching this on DVD or streaming, etc, . . . the experience might not be as good but the price will be a lot better.
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1 hour ago, trifle said:
STB definitely didn't have IMAX near me (Los Angeles). I tried to find it. Also, I'm not 'trekkie' from the old audience, I'm a new watcher since '09 who thought STID was meh-ish, and was glad this was better. (I did think
but it was still a fun movie in all of its acts and the last third was terrific. IMHO.
I agree with your "hidden" comment. I thought the same thing.
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2 minutes ago, trifle said:
I'll be interested in hearing your views when you have seen it.
Bourne, targeting the same audience came out one week later, and by the time people had seen that, Star Trek was losing lots of theaters to Suicide Squad and Bourne still had its two week 'guarantee' run. Nothing since Suicide Squad caused that big a drop in theaters as far as I can tell (well, Ben Hur, probably but that is on its own merits.) The marketing for Star Trek sucked. I am not pretending it is some kind of cultural landmark, but in a summer of really disappointing movies, imho it does not disappoint. And it is visually great and would have benefited from IMAX it never got because of competition for the screens. But let us know what you think when you have seen it.
I think STB did have IMAX when it was released. However, the Star Trek demo is older male and tends not to see movies in 3D, IMAX, DBOX, etc. So it doesn't gain much advantage from those more expensive technologies.
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On 8/21/2016 at 3:38 PM, Kathemy said:
Well, let's see.
Right now it's sitting at $231m. Add another $10m domestic for $241m.
If the movie has an identical run to Into Darkness in China and Korea ($57m+$11m) that alone puts it past it. That's a big "if", but yeah, it should do $300m+.
It has all of Latin America to open up in yet along with whatever is left in the tank for Spain, France and Korea. So even if China fell it should hit $300 million easily. It should end up somewhere in the mid $300s and if it does well in Latin America and China perhaps pushing around $375+ million.
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1 hour ago, a2knet said:
Thanks.
Looking at ~350 WW probably. Meh on a 185 budget (SS is getting doubters on it's success after projections of 650 WW
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but hopefully Paramount gets it together for the 4th one.
Always sad to see a quality franchise/movie under-perform.
It doesn't look too promising until you look at the rest of what Paramount put out this year . . . Then it starts to seem successful in comparison. If it gets to $350m WW I think Paramount has to try and figure out what went wrong and right the ship. Unless they are sitting back already pre-planning the rest of their "Monster Trucks" trilogy. They literally have next to nothing when it comes to franchises. Transformers, Mission Impossible and Star Trek . . . That's it.
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8 hours ago, Brainiac5 said:
You guys come up with all kinds of sh!t.
Oh good counter argument.
So exactly how am I wrong? If it eeks over $300 million you are going to stand there and say that if something like Dr. Strange or Fantastic Beasts had come out in its 4th or 5th weekend that it wouldn't have negatively impacted SS's box office total? I mean this is like intuitively obvious, we see movies all the time hit by big competition that cuts its legs out. SS has a great release date in terms of smaller, less hyped competition. The months before it were much more brutal.
Do you even think about the posts you read before you make a comment or would that slow you down too much?
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9 minutes ago, WilliamK99 said:
I did rough math and 300 is still not guaranteed, even at 50%ish drops which it hasn't been doing...It'll be at approximately 260 milion after this weekend and looking at less than 8 million weekday and less than 10 million weekend next week. It's a 50/50 shot at this point, not "Locked and loaded"
If it does cross $300 million it might be more due to a lack of blockbuster and comic book competition than a testament to its overall reception.
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2 hours ago, Baumer loves Dory said:
It's far from great. IMO, it's very forgettable.
And I don't think this particular type of animation appeals to the younger viewers who (let's face it) make up the bulk of the audience for animated films.
When I first saw the trailer I thought it was a foreign made film being brought to a US audience. I thought, "Hey cool, a foreign film with foreign cultural themes exposed to a US audience. This might be interesting." Only later did I realize it was a North American production.
Since US audiences typically shun movies that are dubbed or have subtitles. I've long thought that the easiest way for an overseas company to gain a foothold in the US would be with animation. Those kinds of films can truly be tailored with voice overs for each individual market without being too distracting. I was thinking Kubo might have been a big successful film overseas that was so popular they decided to give it a try in the States and see how it did. Unfortunately, that isn't the case.
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10 hours ago, Ocho said:
IO bored the hell out you??
Are you 5?
No. Are you? I think I'd have probably enjoyed it if I were only 5.
Now don't go blowing a gasket about this, you don't have to rip all your Joy and Riley posters off the wall because someone has a different opinion than you. Someday you will learn that cartoons about girl teenage angst doesn't necessarily play well across all the different demographics. There's a reason that IO was the only 2015 film in the top five that drew a majority FEMALE audience. If you liked it great! Maybe it changed your life or affected you on a deep personal level. I don't feel the same. I'd be just as happy or happier if I had skipped it altogether.
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BEAUTY AND THE BEAST WEEKEND THREAD | Late Sunday Numbers (Asgard) - 48-49M | Official Weekend Estimate: 170M; OS OW: 180M; WW OW: 350M
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Haha. Yeah, pretty soon that might have to be a minimum wage position for them!