misterchief81
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17 minutes ago, Ryan Reynolds said:
probably no more than 5 million. Movie pass got an emergency 5 million loan the other day
Yeah, but they aren’t letting anyone check in for MI6, so I guess that money is earmarked elsewhere.
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The peak pricing really is out of control. The first weekend I saw it show up, it was $3.75 and it was only movies opening that weekend, and not even all showtimes, which makes sense.
Now, a couple weeks later, and it’s a Thursday night. Realistically you’d expect Mission Impossible and Teen Titans to hit peak pricing. But at my local Regal in Ohio, which I wouldn’t even consider a busy theatre except Fri-Sun, they’ve also got Mamma Mia (partially understandable), Skyscraper (wtf?), Equalizer 2, and Ant Man (3 week’s after release). And peak is now $6! The only shit that’s not on peak is Sorry to Bother You, Incredibles, Jurassic World, Sicario, and Ocean’s 8. All of which I’ve seen.
Im fine not seeing things opening weekend, or over some holiday period between Christmas and New Years while I avoid peak pricing. But Ant Man and Skyscraper? There are 5 tickets sold between them an hour before showtime. Jesus Christ. Hell, 90 mins out and Equalizer only has 3 tickets sold, and Mamma Mia none. How do these showtimes justify peak pricing? What data are they basing this on? And 2 hours out and Teen Titans has 9 tickets sold, while MI6 in 2.5 hours has zero sold.
They want to institute peak pricing, fine, but at least make reasonable decisions based on actual data, not just some asshole in an office somewhere trying to milk every extra dollar they can before they close up show.
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27 minutes ago, CJohn said:
Hilarious number for The Purge. Also, how is a movie gonna pull 30M from an 8M Friday in the Summer? DHD is madness.
It's 30 mil for the 5 day, isn't it?
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39 minutes ago, BoilingHotCoffee said:
My closest nearby theater, Downtown Disney AMC just closed this week, so all the films that were just playing there this past weekend should probably be losing at least one theater count this weekend.
Aww man, that sucks. I used to be a manager there back in the day. Loved working at that location. The design was different from any other AMC. Weekdays were usually dead, and even weekends compared to other area AMC's weren't bad unless there was a Disney movie out. You had your choice of lunch locations in DTD, and getting a cast ID and sign on pass were huge perks I didn't get anywhere else. It just never performed as well as other locations in the market or the one in Orlando. What are they putting in it's place?
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I'd be curious to know what, if any, impact the policy about only seeing movies once has had on the box office of something like Infinity War (or other big titles like Deadpool 2 and Solo) compared to Black Panther. We all know AIW has made a ton of money and set an opening weekend record, yet it's legs have not been as strong as BP. Whether that's due to genuine market factors (rewatchabilty, demographics, competition, etc) or, in some small part, to the fact that Moviepass users were able to watch BP as many times as they wanted, while the single watch policy was implemented right before AIW came out, would be interesting to study.
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If showtimes are missing, you should still be able to use the "unlisted showtime" function to check in. It happens sometimes.
On 6/10/2018 at 4:53 PM, Pure Spirit said:Noticing a lot of empty reserved seats at showings for some movies, despite them being reserved when I booked a ticket. Is this some MoviePass thing to buy a ticket and see another movie?
Seriously MoviePass is screwed. Even ticket stubs aren’t proof of much.
I figure it's either people movie hopping to a movie they've already seen once and can't check into again, or people checking into movies they never plan to see and buying tickets just to get rewards points at their theatre of choice.
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6 minutes ago, Brainbug said:
This Civil War debate is so 1865.
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13 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:
All I know is that the TDK movies filled the entire screen for certain scenes at the IMAX I went to and this never did. It was more of the screen than most movies, but a good chunk of the top and a small part of the bottom was black.
Yeah, Nolan filmed in a traditional IMAX ratio for those scenes in TDK. AIW was not filmed in that ratio, even though they used "IMAX" cameras.
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5 minutes ago, Ocho said:
My brother has movie pass and has had to buy tickets for other movies to see IW 4 times. He said he purchased BP and Wrinkle to keep it in the Disney family. Maybe that's why BP has remained stable?
It does make you wonder how much of an impact (if any) Moviepass' policy update restricting repeat viewings has had on AIW, and will continue to have going forward on tentpole features.
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And Terminator has an iconic theme song.
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1 hour ago, Zakiyyah6 said:
Rampage once again shows Johnson's drawing power. It would have scrapped over a 100mil if Avengers had kept it's release date.
Didn’t Rampage move up a week as a result of AIW moving up a week? It still had the same separation.
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3 hours ago, YLF said:
Thats true. Also, I heard of people using MP to go to premium showings for movies. They would just pay the remaining balance with is not allowed according to MP. So it prob helps with that too. The thing is I've heard of people sending in pics... and its fine then the app asks them again for the same ticket stub a week later. So, they end up getting banned bc they didnt have the stub anymore.
Guess I better start hanging onto my stubs after I see a movie, just in case, haha.
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On 4/28/2018 at 6:53 PM, YLF said:
There was legitimate fraud with people going to theaters and purchasing tickets not seeing the movie solely for the rewards points, but not letting them check in to the same movie won't really prevent that. Its dumb. I saw BP a lot of times with my movie pass and watched it every single time.
I thought the "take a picture of your ticket stub" policy was designed to prevent fraud. But taking a picture of a stub wouldn't prevent me from reselling the ticket after that or just checking in and buying tickets solely for the purpose of gaining loyalty rewards points at bigger theatres, while not seeing a movie I've either already seen or never planned on seeing. So taking a picture of a stub is useless, unless people were checking in and using the predetermined amount to charge something other than a movie ticket to the card (like concessions or something), and that is what they are actually trying to prevent (along with discouraging people from checking in for rewards points on movies they've already seen).
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6 minutes ago, TombRaider said:
TFA had 40m monday, ouch!
TFA also released when the majority of kids were out of school for winter break. A very low percentage of schools (mostly college) are out at the end of April. AIW had the highest April Monday ever. I think it will be ok.
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1 minute ago, bladels said:
Barring any economic catastrophe in US, I don't see that happening
USD is at rock bottom in DEC 2009
Yeah, it's like everyone forgot the circumstances that led to Avatar's huge intl numbers due to the exchange rate back in 2009/2010. It's going to be damn near impossible for another movie to replicate that WW number for a very long time.
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5 minutes ago, eddyxx said:
Boxofficemojo has it at 258,184,000
That's still the weekend estimate, not official final numbers.
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1 hour ago, WrathOfHan said:
Runtimes without credits and trailer attachments for next week:
Ready Player One: 2:12. Attachments unknown.
Acrimony: 1:54. Attachments are Overboard (new trailer) and Traffik.
GND3 isn't up yet
God's Not Dead 3 (without credits) is 1:41. Indivisible and Unbroken 2 trailers attached.
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I'm not saying that Paramount didn't want the money, and 50 mil domestic, and 300 intl was a nice haul for them. And I know Mojo counts re-releases toward a title's box office gross. But we all know what it did the first time. Also, I just hate 3D conversions and any 3D re-release (including Jurassic Park and Episode 1).
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13 minutes ago, filmscholar said:
Titanic was Locked up after last weekends drop. It's going to be at or close to 630 after this weekend. Your telling me there isn't 30 More Million in the tank? "Titanic" is the last Box Office Legend the way. The Jedi (Not Last Jedi) and Na'vi are safe.
Not to mention, Titanic is only where it is because of it's BS 3D re-release. In reality, it's already been passed. It's original run was epic. Cameron should have left it at that.
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3D has remained much more popular internationally than it has in the US or Canada. And with so much expansion of digital cinema internationally, I would imagine that a larger portion of their builds include 3D capabilities, again, due to it's popularity.
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17 minutes ago, MrGlass2 said:
But many studios are the ones who want to accelerate the home distribution, it is theater chains who are unhappy about this prospect. And most of those "studios" are already parts of giant corporations who want to eventually handle VOD on their own services.
There is a difference between moving up the window for home distribution and getting rid of the theatrical release altogether. Studios want to see return on investments sooner rather than later. Pushing the home release closer to the theatrical release allows them to make more money is a smaller window of time. But that doesn't mean they are just going to throw away a multi-billion dollar cash cow in theatrical distribution, even if most of them are owned by media conglomerates who want to all start their own streaming services and own multiple television channels. The best marketing for home release is a wide theatrical release. Make money while getting people talking and hopefully eventually double dipping on your product.
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As long as movie studios control the distribution and timing of their product, theatres aren't going anywhere. Yeah, exhibitors will adapt to combat changing tastes (recliners, full service, 21+ theatres etc), but as long as a studio can say "This movie must have a theatrical release window of X amount of weeks before home distribution is on the table", people will continue to go see movies in theatres, because there will always be people who want to see films in that setting, want to see them first, want to experience the tentpole films etc. It would take every major studio completely pulling their product from theatres and going straight to streaming or digital or blu ray release, and I just don't see them abandoning an incredibly lucrative revenue stream, even if attendance drops here and there.
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If anyone has the actual attendance numbers domestically, it's Rentrak (comScore), but I'm not sure they report data from 100% of theatres.
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19 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:
I think the oscar's will have more impact for Best picture nominees than others on sunday, since the people who cares about the oscar will then watch the telecast and not going for those BP nominees in cinema.....
Yeah, I feel like the audience seeing Black Panther on the 3rd weekend might not exactly be the biggest Oscar broadcast viewers. I don't see it having a major impact on it's Sunday numbers.
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Moviepass and its Impact on the Box Office
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I’ll probably cancel before my next billing cycle next week. I can’t see anything at my local Regal without surge pricing today. Not a single show. And MI6 is obliviously not available to check in for at all. That’s ridiculous.
Ill probably sign up for amc a list after I cancel. I’m already a stubs premiere member anyway. But it is farther from home, so a little more inconvenient. And I don’t get my regal points to use on movie posters.
I also wish amc would add a family/bring a guest plan. I really don’t need to see 3 movies a week. I’d be perfectly happy seeing 1-2 movies a week, but having the ability to get 2 or more tickets to that same show, so I can bring my son or wife without paying for an individual ticket. I’d pay $25-$30 a month for a 2 movie/week for up to 2 people or $20 a month for 1 movie/week for up to 3 people.