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Only to be sure, do you mean for SW R1 or for future releases, like SW 8?
I mean the SW franchise generally.-
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Is it possible that with DY and JW, and assuming Chinese like R1, this will end up closer (or even above) TFA? What I mean, is it possible that R1 boosts SW in the eyes of Chinese?
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I'd be more impressed if Disney actually created its own mega-franchises rather than buying existing ones. It's like 'congratulations, you had enough money to purchase wildly popular intellectual property and make it slightly more popular.'
Easier said than done. It is win-win. Without Disney MCU would not be as popular, same goes with SW (in my opinion).-
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Moana is holding better than Toy Story 2 and now $6M a head of it
I think it will finish around $260M
And it is also making more gains (percent-wise) versus Tangled, $260M would be awesome (not expecting that much, thou).
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First trends from insidekino.de:
#1: Passengers - 500k (incl. previews) - very good number!
#2: R1 - 350k (-25%, good hold!)
#3: Moana - 250k (-11%, wow, sure makes up for the poor opening)
#4: Sing - 225k (+3%, even more wow)
#5/6: AC / VgdB with 175k each (AC -25%, VgdB -23%)
#7: PP - 200k incl. previews (insane)
WbdH stays over 100k, too - extremely strong weekend!
Happy to see Moana is doing decently after the bad opening. -
Because the studios are mainly shut down for that week? We should get updated actuals trickling in for the whole week over the next several days.
Shut down? Wtf!! Are they on a holiday or something?!?!-
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9 hours ago, edroger3 said:
70M week WW: 398M (BOM adding Monday) - 328M. Good Christmas boost despite the bad ER in Eurozone and other places. For example Moana is at 29,7 in France, Frozen was at 42 with roughly the same admissions.
now 400
old mkts +55
dom +30
new mkts +45
tot 530
Japan ???
tot 530+???=???
I was thinking something like +100 from old markets (including DOM) and +100 from new markets -> tot. $600 million.
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Question back: you only have a span of 2€ between country-side and city AND adult children? Or is it meant 10€ in everage for children tickets and 12€ in average for adult tickets? I try to understand, not sure...
My numbers are 10€ for child and 12€ for adult in the capital -region (Helsinki, Espoo, Vantaa). Probably same in other larger cities, but cheaper in the countryside (not sure, thou).
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It should be very close to 1,5m after the next weekend already...
Should be around 800k after this weekend.
If it would do the same numbers like Alvin 3 5 years ago, it would add another 315k Mon-Wed and 335k over the Holiday weekend. Would put it around 1,45m.
Mind if I ask average ticket price in Germany? Here in Finland it is around 10€-12€ (child-adult) for 2D and 3D some 20% higher. -
I've seen only Zootopia, CA3, AiW2, TJB, DS and FD. Of those Doctor Strange.
Still the one I'd like to choose is Pete's Dragon :/ (expecting it to be pure old-fashioned family Disney) Need to see it this year.
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So, could the OS total of Moana be something like $200 after this weekend? Does the numbers usually dip dramatically right after the New Year or after Epiphany?
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4 hours ago, Olive said:
Corpse' Weekend Forecast (12/31-01/01)
01 (01) ¥341,000,000 ($2.9 million), -45%, ¥2,100,000,000 ($18.0 million), Resident Evil: The Final Chapter (Sony) WK2
02 (02) ¥304,000,000 ($2.6 million), -20%, ¥2,825,000,000 ($24.7 million), Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (Disney) WK3
03 (07) ¥220,000,000 ($1.9 million), +15%, ¥21,950,000,000 ($209.8 million), Your Name. (Toho) WK19
04 (04) ¥199,000,000 ($1.7 million), -27%, ¥6,150,000,000 ($54.5 million), Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them (Warner Bros.) WK6
05 (03) ¥186,000,000 ($1.6 million), -35%, ¥2,000,000,000 ($17.2 million), Yo-Kai Watch: The Movie 3 (Toho) WK3
06 (05) ¥141,000,000 ($1.2 million), -37%, ¥625,000,000 ($5.4 million), The Mole Song 2: Hong Kong Crazy Uproar Song (Toho) WK2
07 (06) ¥116,000,000 ($990,000), -40%, ¥1,050,000,000 ($9.1 million), Tomorrow, I Will Date With Yesterday's You (Toho) WK4
08 (08) ¥89,000,000 ($760,000), -34%, ¥1,425,000,000 ($12.3 million), A Man Called Pirate (Toho) WK4
09 (09) ¥39,000,000 ($335,000), -39%, ¥750,000,000 ($6.6 million), Kamen Rider Hensei Generations (Toei) WK4
10 (10) ¥38,000,000 ($325,000), -16%, ¥950,000,000 ($8.3 million), In This Corner of the World (Tokyo Theaters, Co.) WK8
No wide openers ever debut the last weekend of the year, so this weekend is all about the holdovers.
>Resident Evil: The Final Chapter and Rogue One: A Star Wars Story will be in a close battle for the top spot, though the former should be able to capture the #1 spot for a second-consecutive weekend.
>Your Name. simply refuses to slow down, and is going to experience another weekend increase in its nineteenth week of release; this time, possibly enough to give it a significant rise up the charts, aiming for the Top 3 once more. It needed a strong New Year boost to put it in contention to outgross Frozen and Titanic, and it's getting just what it needed and more to come.
Following the New Year, it'll be expanding to IMAX locations and could return to the #1 spot. #SpiritedAwayInTrouble?
>Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them continues to show that spin-offs don't always have to be disappointments, as is the case with most in Japan, and is beginning to close in on Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 1 - the lowest grossing film in the Harry Potter franchise.
>Yo-Kai Watch 3 is showing better legs than both of its predecessors, though the franchise continues to suffer from some notable frontloading. Thankfully, the weekdays this time of year are very strong for any film skewing toward a younger audience, such as this one, so its weekends aren't nearly as important.Did Pete's Dragon open in Japan during Christmas? And if so, it is DOA(?)
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While "pandering" to China wasn't the main reason why Donnie Yen was cast, I'm pretty sure Disney still hoped that his presence would boost RO's box office in China. However, regardless if that happens or not, it was the right move to do, Yen was awesome, diversity is obviously very important, but in this case it didn't seem like they had chosen an Asian actor just to add more diversity, but because Yen was a great fit for the role and his inclusion felt perfectly natural.
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5 minutes ago, PPZVGOS said:
If the presence of Donnie Yen & the other Chinese actor cannot lift Rogue One in China, then Disney should reconsider its casting choices going forward. Star Wars makes money in North America and Europe, act accordingly.
Can't blame them for not trying. Also it looks like adding Chinese actors doesn't really hurt SW's BO in NA or Europe, so no harm done. Althou might be that it would've done loads more if only there was Christoph Waltz, Gerard Depardieu or Hugh Grant
btw, is it doing better than average SW in Denmark?
What I am trying to say is that I think that for the most of people in NA and Europe it does not matter what country the actors are from...
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I just included the ones that Agafin mentioned.
Bridget Jones would probably come in around 5th or 6th, along with Shrek, Pirates etc, although they have definitely dwindelled in popularity today. The minions brand would also feature in today's charts.
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LOTR was insanely popular in the UK. Both it and Potter were created here, so it makes sense.
FOTR was the biggest (£63m), followed by RoTK (£61.1m) and TTT (£57.6m). It's really difficult to say which is more popular in the UK. PS beat FoTR in 2001, and TTT beat CoS in 2002. But they were both huge in their own right. Potter has the highest and lowest grossing if you were to put them together, but it was over a much larger time-frame, so it is to be expected.
In terms of today, Potter is definitely more popular, as demonstrated by FB's incredible run. It's just more relevant, and still in the spotlight due to the new FB series, the Studio tour in London, as well as the publishing of Cursed Child, and the West End show.
Based on RIGHT NOW, I'd rank it like this:
1. Bond (Can't really argue here. In the last 4 years it has produced the 2nd and 3rd biggest films of all time in the UK).
2. Potter (For its sheer consistency over 15 years, and huge popularity still today. It definitely has the most loyal fan-base).
3. Star Wars (A bit more difficult due to limited data before 2000. Original SW is one of the most attended films of all time with over 20m admissions, but that was 40 years ago. The prequels were also very popular, Phantom Menace in particular, but AotC and RotS aren't in the same league as Potter and LoTR. Obviously TFA is the biggest film of all time in the UK, it had an absolutely spectacular run, and now Rogue One seems to be heading for £60m, which is still massive. If Episode 8 repeats what 7 achieved, I think we can firmly say SW is the most popular series in the UK. You could probably argue that it should be number 1 already).
4. Lord of the Rings (When released, all three would have been in the top 10 of all time. Also very consistent in grosses, just not as talked about today. The Hobbit was also a bit disappointing here, but the quality was a big step down from LOTR.)
5. Toy Story (Hugely popular in the UK, but TS3's gross was driven by nostalgia. Nonetheless, still very impressive, and it's probably the most popular animated franchise)
There isn't really a right answer for this. There is a very thin line between the top 3.
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Also, Moana with almost flat from Monday. Nice recovery after less than expected jump on Friday. It's gonna be over 210M after the weekend, 235M maybe more is possible.
Yes, well done Moana. \o/
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Sing isn't doing very hot either OS. I don't think it would have done any differently even without Moana like you said. Both just aren't performing to the golden standards of their respective company.
So what are the OS people seeing in cinemas, then (?) Can't blame it all to ER [emoji4] -
To be honest that is expected. I even think it's done better. Xmas day on Sunday means the normal 4 day is very deflated.
I'll be surprised if rogue one does under 2m on Boxing Day. Competition was limited this year. Passengers doesn't hit till New Years here for example.
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The numbers with W/e new estimates
1 (1) Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Walt Disney $64,400,000 -58% 4,157 $15,492 $286,399,674 10
2 new Sing Universal $35,290,000 4,022 $8,774 $55,902,640 5
5 (2) Moana Walt Disney $7,400,000 -42% 3,587 $2,063 $180,432,191 33
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Wednesday was only disappointing if you don't understand how this time of year works. Moana lost 900 theaters on Wednesday as well as facing Sing and the typical Wednesday slump, her behavior was great if not exceptional all things considering.
Well, thank you very much. I am comparing Moana and Tangled, from that point of view I found it disappointing. -
Rogue One… Walt Disney $16,773,075 12% 4,157 $4,035 $221,999,674 Moana Walt Disney $2,574,204 21% 3,053 $843 $173,032,191 Doctor Strange Walt Disney $288,235 14% 1,017 $283 $227,618,966 T.Queen o.Katwe Walt Disney $2,754 115% 41 $67 $8,791,546
Good for Moana after disappointing Wednesday.-
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After looking at wednesday number from RTH( 26% drop with Sing opening), 260m is too high. I would say 220m domestic is more likely at this point.
I agree. I think Moana has been tracking some 25% above Tangled (dom-wise) since the beginning, but Wed it did below Tangled (because of Sing). Still hoping for better, thou. -
Thanks, that made me laugh outloud [emoji1]-
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btw, is it doing better than average SW in Denmark?
China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
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You never know [emoji6]
Thanks for the answers to you and TigerPaw. I still hope that Disney parks will help Chinese to get more familiar with SW.