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On 3/12/2022 at 9:39 AM, WittyUsername said:
The Chinese government really does not like Chloe Zhao, and to a lesser extent, Simu Liu.
To be fair, they did like Zhao until the drama resurfaced, which forced them to censor anything that is related to her. Zhao is a daughter of a stage actress and a military man, she's also the niece of a provincial governor or whatever. Feige hired Zhao before she got the Oscar so it's not like Marvel was aiming for an Oscar with Eternals at the time either like a lot of people assumed.
Shang Chi's character had a racist background with the whole Fu Manchu stuff, which Feige already had to explain again in the weibo's online interview in 2021 but it's obvious that CCP still decided to ban the film and SC character nevertheless.
I don't think Disney and Chapek would give up on China, and so does Feige. -
Jumanji lucked out because TLJ killed off Luke Skywalker, which pissed off SW fans, however, I don't think Shazam 2 would get the same opportunity
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Now on Twitter and reddit it's funny to see how a lot of people are "celebrating" that the Batman would earn a lot of money because it will premiere in mainland China too, but a few months ago, a lot would say US/Hollywood should give up and not cater to China market yada yada out of spite (and probably their ego) just because China didn't allow some films to get a screening there.
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Yeah, I still remember the big "idol concert" that Mainland China held for Marvel and OG Avengers team back in the day when Endgame got premiered, it's obvious that Chinese people did support Marvel to a great extent. And they still do and they love Spidey too. Even if NWH can only have a late release date and doesn't do much in the mainland anymore, it's still a hopeful sign that at least things might come back to normal for the brand.
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On 2/14/2022 at 8:55 PM, porginchina said:
China has historically employed a zero-tolerance policy towards films that offend them (just look up their reactions to Kundun and Seven Years in Tibet back in the day); this is part of the reason why so many Hollywood movies are so sensitive to the suggestions of Chinese censors as the Chinese do not mess around when they get mad. Add in the fact that the Chinese government was always iffy about the decision to make a movie even partially inspired by the racist Shang-Chi comics of yore and behold! you have the current status quo with Marvel Studios.
Agree that Marvel shouldn't apologize as it would look awful everywhere else and cause more overall harm than benefit (and at the time they decided to hire Simu Liu and Chloe Zhao, both entertainers were totally okay politically in Beijing). My guess is that Marvel will eventually be forgiven, as many entertainment transgressors are; they've got huge brand awareness in China and can contribute solidly to helping the Chinese box office overtake the US/Canada (plus, for what it's worth, Shanghai Disneyland is forever rumored to be getting Marvel-themed expansions).
What about the drama between Chinese local bureau and Disney/Marvel that Western media put out last year? They said China did give Disney/Marvel a release date for BW but then Disney/Marvel refused because they were going to postpone BW's release date worldwide and they wanted to avoid ...spoilers. Did that incident really affect the relationship between Disney/Marvel and China?
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1 hour ago, Ipickthiswhiterose said:
It can say hi all it likes, nobody in Avatar is born as the chosen one, or is special by birth.
They become special by circumstance and personal connection.
As for Harry Potter, my impression is that China is just okay with Harry Potter, no more no less. I could be wrong.
Look, I might well be wrong on this, that's fine, but it seems one way or another than something very fundamental is dissonant between Chinese culture and Star Wars and that dynamic predates this trilogy by a long time. Investigating why ROS specifically hasn't done well in China is futile, in other words, because that would imply there should have been any expectation in the first place, when clearly there shouldn't based on the recent and far past.
Why do you think Jake Sully wasn't born as The Chosen One? He was the only person who could form a special connection and ride the red flying chicken while the others could only ride the blue ones. The holy tree even threw jellyfishes at Jack as a welcome for the Chosen One.
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36 minutes ago, Ipickthiswhiterose said:
Yea, exactly this.
No pretending otherwise, China was never into Star Wars. There was a big launch and buy in for the Force Awakens. But really nothing other than that. The Force Awakens was given a change and was rejected. Simple.
And there's a much bigger cultural reason for that than "the corruption of wuxia" or whatever.
It's a pretty consistent cultural tendency that China does not take well to "The Chosen One" stories.
The Person Who Was Born Special is antithetical to Chinese culture and stories of this type almost never work out there. And obviously "The chosen one" is central to the Skywalker saga.
Harry Potter is the chosen one too and Chinese people love Harry Potter franchise
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11 minutes ago, TigerPaw said:
will be close. SW presales are weak, but anything can be changed with strong WoM. I mean Jumanji 2’s WoM is shockingly below average.
I'm afraid that the WOM will be about how SW is a snore-fest than can cure your insomnia again.
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Can Jumanji beat SW this time?
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41 minutes ago, commendable said:
like i said, grow up
12 minutes ago, RRA said:But is this person toilet trained?
Eh, you can cyberbully me if you want, i'm just a small account in a small forum anw, but it won't change the fact that BP isn't as good as BP fanatic fans think
I Guess the Chinese should grow up too? The criticism section is quite entertaining to read, but it seems like you can't read Chinese properly to understand what they said.
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6 hours ago, commendable said:
Grow up
Oh, let's act like educated adults and be polite to each other, people have right to have different opinions, this isn't a kindergarten site anw, but I get it, you feel b-hurt because there are still some people out there who don't like your overrated mediocre movie
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On 3/6/2018 at 12:53 AM, bangbingchan said:
it's 6.8 on Douban before wide release.very close to bvs now.Wonder the Maoyan score after release
Eh it seems like B agenda and sjw activism can't affect Chinese moviegoers. But to be honest, BP is a mediocre movie.
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23 hours ago, MrFanaticGuy34 said:
Well, way more than the first one.
I don't think so, the quality of PR2 is more like Power Ranger 2017 than Del Toro's original Pacific Rim. But the curiosity would give PR2 a good opening in China.
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Such a dark time for SW franchise. Ironically, after TLJ, now my friend, who is also a sw loyal fan, is starting to ship the heroine Rey with the villain Kylo Ren/ Ben Solo.
She said that "couple" is the only good thing that comes out of TLJ, which i think is a hopeless idea.
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38 minutes ago, UserHN said:
Chinese people did not grow up with Star Wars unlike the US. They are unfamiliar with the beloved characters. And when they got to see the TFA and R1, seems like they don't like it that much. So I don't think they care that much about storylines of a movie franchise they're not interested in.
I understand, even Japanese reacted the same. But they still hold on to the idea that TLJ will have something unique with Rey, Kylo and Star Wars is not cousin wars bullsh*t, i've spent many times to lurk in Japanese twitter, even searching through their SW katakana hashtag a lot. Now SW promotional campaigns in Japan only feature Rey, Kylo and some mask/non-human characters, like this
If SW lost Japan after TLJ, then this franchise is truly hopeless in Asian markets.
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11 hours ago, Gavin Feng said:
optimistic $100M.
11 hours ago, Olive Skywalker said:70-80M USD
What if TLJ has better plot and storytelling (such as anything but lame ReySkywalker and bad cousin vs. Good cousin bullsh*t)? Would it help TLJ pass 100m in China?
China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
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Well from an extremely positive point of view, getting released in China and earning a few dollars is still better than not getting released at all. Needless to say, no one expected China to support DC/The Batman as they did for Marvel in the past.