[New Years Weekend Thread || Dec. 30-Jan. 1 || ATWOW $67.4M 3rd WE - $88.8M 4-Day WE — Orange Panther $22.6M 4-Day!]

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[Daily Numbers | Tuesday Jan 9th | TLJ 2.40, I4 2.21, TGS 1.90]

 

28 minutes ago, Noctis said:

Avengers is so damn forgettable. The one thing that shocks me to this day is how unbelievably bland its cinematography is. 

 

Winter Soldier, Iron Man, and Guardians of the Galaxy 2 are the most memorable, especially the first two. 

In regards to Avengers being forgettable this scene alone begs to differ. My sold out theater went nuts after this scene.

 

[Weekend Thread - Insidious 29.6M, Jumanji 37.2M, TLJ 23.7M, TGS 13.8M, PP3 10.3]

Jonathan, what's your TLJ count up to? I remember reading one of your posts on theforce.net that you saw TFA 50 times or so and thinking every time he sees TFA an angel must be getting his wings.

[Classic Conversation Thread]

PATS are going to the Superbowl and winning their 6th title.

[Weekend Thread - Insidious 29.6M, Jumanji 37.2M, TLJ 23.7M, TGS 13.8M, PP3 10.3]

Saw TLJ for the fifth time yesterday and I have to admit for selfish reasons I am glad Disney instituted a 30 day period where the movie needs to be shown in a theater's largest screen.  I think the movie is great anyways but the better sound and larger screen only enhance the movie even more for me.

 

Now that NFL playoffs are in full swing I am going to compare (I admit not a great analogy) TLJ's BO run to a team's run in the playoffs. Ultimately, TLJ will win the BO Superbowl (highest WW total for 2017). Its home record was 6-2, overall a very very good performance but just below the very best (Avatar and TFA have 8-0 records and TA, JW and Titanic have 7-1 records). On the road (overseas), TJL went a very respectable 5-3, playing very well in Europe but getting crushed badly in one particular away game (China).

 

Speaking of football it would be cool if there was a QBR equivalent for box office performance. It would include looking at total WW gross, DOM and Foreign gross, OW multiplier, exchange rate fluctuations, % of revenues from 3D,  Imax and other large screen formats, trailer views, and availability of other forms of entertainment to consumers (streaming today, home video formats etc) and whatever else you want to throw in.

[Weekend Thread - Insidious 29.6M, Jumanji 37.2M, TLJ 23.7M, TGS 13.8M, PP3 10.3]

Long time lurker here. Found this place during TFA's run and have been following the daily/weekend threads ever since. I have always enjoyed following box office numbers but never in real in depth detail. Multiplier? What's that? Holiday schedule? Say what now?

 

I have learned a lot since coming here and many of you provide great insight into why and how box office runs behave the way they do.

 

Furthermore, a lot of you are just plain hilarious and crack me up a regular basis. I probably won't post a lot (more of a lurker) but rest assured I'll be following this site for years to come.

[New Year's Day Weekend Thread: Late Friday estimates (DHD) - TLJ 19.5M, Jumanji 17.5M, PP3 6.7M, TGS 5.3M]

23 minutes ago, Eastwood47 said:

I don't broad stroke the legacy of the 1977 Star Wars film onto the entire series as you might. Every film after the first has it's issues and none have approached the success or acclaim of the original. If you want to say anything " Star Wars" carries the same legacy then I guess you believe  Phantom Menace is equal to a New Hope? Surely you can see each film carries it's own legacy within the greater scope of the series. 

 

And since I'm bringing up Phantom Menace, lets talk about how that was received versus how it has changed over the years. That film was in theaters for seven months. The Force Awakens was in theaters less than six. Look up Youtube at all the fans coming out from the first showings. Everyone loved it. Everything hated about it today was praised when the hysteria of the moment controlled everyone's perspective. And yet that film nor any of the other prequels won a single Oscar for effects during it's run.  You think that wasn't part of the Star Wars legacy in the first trilogy? So Last Jedi plays early on to the same notes as TPM. 

 

The great advantage these films have today is they enjoy enormous profits from the front loaded business thanks to 3D and IMAX showings and the contracts Disney tie theaters to. If all you have is that box office to offer as legacy at this early stage then I offer you Phantom Menace as the contradiction to that logic. Adjusted for inflation TLJ can't hold TPM's jockstrap. So lets see what happens with this film and where opinions settle. This has a much greater divide early on than Phantom Menace had and allot more people went to Phantom Menace and gave it steady business for some time. How can you say inflation of tickets and the technology of 3D and IMAX can be overlooked versus how many people are actually showing up? 

 

With ALL the advantages Star Wars has stacked in its favor thanks to the theater contracts for the big screens, 3D and IMAX, it STILL struggles to remain atop after a mere three weeks...and lost to Jumanji on New Years day. How can you say that validates this movie when it tries to strangle off competition by holding pricey halls and formats all to itself? Theaters don't have a choice here. 

Academy Awards. Eh. Legacy. Eh. A Star Wars movie craves not these things.