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  1. 16 minutes ago, terrestrial said:

    What I like: they (MCU supporting cast) are having a ~ 'real' supporting role, not only ornamentation or canon fodder or... No matter if PoC or not. See e.g. Maria Hill in Avengers 1, she is actively fighting and organising, Coulsen in the same movie,

    Not in every movie, but see e.g. Falcon, Wakanda, ... memorable roles that do add to the team / action / the whole in a considerable way

    I agree that MCU’s supporting casts have been great. Brie larson’s supporting cast was fantastic. The support has really helped the MCU movie universe.

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  2. I am very happy for CM. With this second weekend in the bank nobody can take away its blockbuster status. That argument is over for good.

     

    I think it’s also important to note that a good percentage of CM’s supporting cast is African American. In fact I thought SLJ carried a good part of this film.

     

    Marvel dominates because they understand diversity and inclusion better than any other major movie franchise in cinema history. People can be mad if they want. Look at the results! I couldn’t be happier.

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  3. Despite the decline in theaters, BP finished in the top 5 for the weekend. And it’s in its 11th week!

     

    IW did give BP a push. This is the first time in history that Marvell has had 2 movies in the top 5 in the same weekend. Amazing!

     

    This is a reminder that BP and IW are on the same team. BP benefited greatly from the Marvel Universe family. And there is no doubt that IW record weekend was helped with the expanded audiences BP brought to Marvel.

     

    Everyobody won.

     

     

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  4. 11 hours ago, MikeQ said:

    I agree. It looks like it will hit $680M by the end of next weekend, or close to it, and then finish between $690-695M total. So close to $700M total, unless it somehow gets a boost or expansion on the Infinity War weekend.

     

    Either way, it has had very strong legs. Sits at a 3.34 multiplier already with this weekend's actuals.

     

    Peace,

    Mike

     

     

     

    If BP is that close, perhaps Mickey Mouse's deep pockets could find 5-6 million in "adjustments?":D

     

    I would love to see this movie hit 700.

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  5. 6 hours ago, MovieMan89 said:

    Who said anything about it being comparable to WiT? And I've never once heard the $150m number. $175m was what was reported for a long time, but more recent reports were suggesting 200m. 

    Deadline reported that Ready Player One needed about $440 million dollars worldwide to be profitable. They estimate production + P&A to be be 300-325 million for the film.

    http://deadline.com/2018/04/ready-player-one-steven-spielberg-opening-weekend-box-office-1202318581/

     

    As of the close of this weekend 4-8-18 here is where the movie stands.

    Total Lifetime Grosses

    Domestic: $96,484,703   24.5%

    + Foreign: $297,100,000   75.5%

    = Worldwide: $393,584,703 

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=readyplayerone.htm

     

    Deadline's numbers are estimates. Regardless, it looks like Ready Player One will have no trouble being profitable. If the movie has not broken even by now it clearly soon will. This means basically all of the money this movie earns after this week will be on the profitable side of the ledger.

     

    Ready Player One is doing great.

     

     

     

     

     
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  6. Just now, TwoMisfits said:

    Trailer looks way better than the 1st few...and I think I hate Alden Ehrenreich playing the Han role even more...since he seems either under (energy/volume/charisma) or literally trying to mimic it, both without success...

     

    But, the movie might be good enough to bring me in anyway:)...I'm trying to think of the last movie I hated the lead, but still really enjoyed the movie (I will say, Woody Harrelson - damn, if he's as good in the movie as he is in the trailer, maybe it should be his movie:)...I've gotta think on that one:)... 

    Woody Harrelson is good in almost everything. He is easily one of my favorite actors.

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  7. 1 hour ago, Barnack said:

    You usually do not need to make 400m with a domestic heavy title like WiT to be profitable with an around 105-120m production budget and a usual 95-130m ww P&A.

     

    That number people has in mind could come from this:

     

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2018/03/08/review-a-wrinkle-in-time-delivers-weird-fun-and-heartfelt-family-entertainment/#69e87d631eb3

    With about $200 million in production and marketing costs, the film needs to finish in the vicinity of $400+ million worldwide to turn a profit from theatrical receipts alone.

     

    That number is completely different one that the GB-break point (and a rather useless / theoretical strange one), if you are domestic heavy (with a release spending that was realistic about) that and have a really large budget, it is perfectly possible to turn a profit without necessarily even doubling or barely doubling your budget at the box office, see http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=themagnificentseven.htm for an example look at Denzel Washington filmography they rarely go over 2.5 time their budget

     

    Mag 7: 162m on a 90m rumored net budget (that one real net budget was probably between 77m to 85m too), it had a limited expectation of it's possible performance (studio had 85m/65m intl for 150m WW in mind) so it had a reasonable 75-85m budget with a 75-85m ww P&A planned in consequence to still turn a profit with that type of box office.

     

    Last 10 year's of Denzel box office vs rumored budget:

    RJQ: 12.19m on a 22m (.55)

    Fences: 64m on a 24m budget (2.66)

    Mag 7: 162m on a 90m budget (real budget around 85m or less) (1.905)

    Equalizer: 192m on a 55m budget (was more 73m gross / 63.075m net in reality) (3.04)

    2 guns: 131.94m on a 61m budget (nice budget for that pair, 77m gross, 17m tax credit from Louisiana) (2.16)

    Flight: 161.77 on 31m (5.21)

    Safe house: 208 on a 85m budget (2.44)

    Unstoppable: 167.8m on a 100m budget (1.67)

    Book of Eli: 157m on a 80m budget (1.96)

    Pelham 1-2-3: 150m on a 100m budget (the real net budget was 115.43m) (1.29)

     

    On that last 10 year's, 10 movies, Denzel went above is rumored budget

    2.0x: 5 times

    2.5x: 3 times

    3.0x: 2 times and getting a sequel on one of those

     

    Put it this way in is complete career only 2 Denzel movie reached 200m at the box office (266m American gangster on a +100m budget and Safe House mentioned above on a +85m budget) and their budget's are around 100m.

     

    The men still get paid 25, 30, 35+ million to play in movies with is 20m + first dollar gross deal he tend to get, why ? Domestic heavy, good home ent perf, third party financier easy to find and low risk when he is involved even if the upside potential reward is capped to a low amount.

     

     

     

     

    Denzel Washington? I have no idea what you talking about.

     

    Sometimes when you have to move a discussion this far off topic to prove a point, it may be time to re-evaluate your position.  

     

    I'm not here to rain on anybody's parade. I love movies. I want movies to be successful. It breaks my heart to see A Wrinkle In Time do so poorly at the box office. If you want to believe this movie will somehow, against all reasonable estimates, turn a profit on its cinematic run, you are absolutely within your right to do so. I am not here to upset anyone. I only enjoy talking about movies and the movie business. If you think 200 million or so is all that is needed to make A Wrinkle In Time a box office profit bonanza.. have at it.

  8. 11 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

    Depends on the split. If it did just 60m DOM, then yeah 200 WW wouldn't have been good enough. Wih 100m DOM though, I don't see why it would have needed more than another 100 OS. 

    A Wrinkle In Time's Production cost is estimated at 100 million dollars

    A Wrinkle In time's P&A cost is estimated at 150 million dollars

    That's 250 million dollars in investment before anything else is even calculated.

     

    Now it must always be stated that all of these numbers are estimates. However studies have been done showing that usually these estimates  undervalue what is actually spent. For instance the production cost of big budget movies is an average of 12% greater than what is publicly reported. As a general rule, movie production costs more than what is reported. Not less.

     

    This movie is not going to turn a profit during its cinematic release. 

  9. Just now, MovieMan89 said:

    Lol, well that's a little better. Though I don't see why it couldn't break even around the 200 mark WW given 100m from DOM? There's no way that $250m P&A number you pulled is legit. 

    The proof reading part of my post was absolutely embarrassing. (The 250 was a typo.) 

     

    According to Deadline, production and P&A ran 250 million. These figures are just estimates. And are generally underreported. Having an estimate that a worldwide gross of 350-400 million was needed for this movie to be profitable is reasonable. And given that it currently sits at 111 million it clearly has a long way to go. Whether the magic number is 300 million, 350 million or 400 million, its not going to get there. This movie is going to be millions short of breaking even at the end of its cinematic release. 

     

    This movie is a major bust, regardless of what budget estimate figures are used.

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