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9 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:
That's why they dominate the franchise division of the box office (3rd place to 100th)? No other reasons?
No. There are LOTS of other reasons. But strong characters of both genders and characters of different ethnic backgrounds are a factor in their worldwide success.
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I am very happy for CM. With this second weekend in the bank nobody can take away its blockbuster status. That argument is over for good.
I think it’s also important to note that a good percentage of CM’s supporting cast is African American. In fact I thought SLJ carried a good part of this film.
Marvel dominates because they understand diversity and inclusion better than any other major movie franchise in cinema history. People can be mad if they want. Look at the results! I couldn’t be happier.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1Trr07X0AYHyC8?format=jpg&name=large
This is a good chart to monitor the success of CM.
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14 minutes ago, NoLegMan said:
I have a feeling DP won't be that good, may hurt it, that is mostly my view though.
I'm very worried about Solo. I hope I am wrong. I hope its good.
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Despite the decline in theaters, BP finished in the top 5 for the weekend. And it’s in its 11th week!
IW did give BP a push. This is the first time in history that Marvell has had 2 movies in the top 5 in the same weekend. Amazing!
This is a reminder that BP and IW are on the same team. BP benefited greatly from the Marvel Universe family. And there is no doubt that IW record weekend was helped with the expanded audiences BP brought to Marvel.
Everyobody won.
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I wonder if BP will see a slight bump this weekend? It may be tough to notice with the theater losses. But this weekend’s per theater average will be interesting.
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On 5/4/2017 at 11:14 PM, keysersoze123 said:
less than Ant Man. There isn't an actor in this that draws OS audience.
Sad. Just sad.
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11 hours ago, Marathon said:
It finally went over $30m overseas:
Total Lifetime GrossesDomestic: $93,718,321 75.4% + Foreign: $30,538,015 24.6%
= Worldwide: $124,256,336 This movie is a good candidate for bust of the year.
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I finally saw this movie yesterday. I loved it! It was fantastic entertainment. Its very fast paced. The two hours flew by. It was much better than I expected. Its a classic fun movie. Critics who dislike it take the movie too seriously. Its not advertised as "War and Peace."
I would strongly recommend this film.
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11 hours ago, MikeQ said:
I agree. It looks like it will hit $680M by the end of next weekend, or close to it, and then finish between $690-695M total. So close to $700M total, unless it somehow gets a boost or expansion on the Infinity War weekend.
Either way, it has had very strong legs. Sits at a 3.34 multiplier already with this weekend's actuals.
Peace,
Mike
If BP is that close, perhaps Mickey Mouse's deep pockets could find 5-6 million in "adjustments?"
I would love to see this movie hit 700.
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6 hours ago, fabiopazzo2 said:
I wish I could add to this impressive total that Black Panther was so good and so culturally significant that it was the first Western movie to open in Saudi Arabia in 35 years. The movie broke the 35 year ban on Western Films that had been in place since the mid 1980s.
No other movie has ever done that!
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3 hours ago, a2knet said:
imo the minimum global cume is looking around
150 Dom
215 China
185 CurrentOS-China
30 Germany+Japan (12.5+17.5)
= 580
It could do 5-10 more in each of those 4 categories for 20-40 more and 600-620 ww.
At these estimates the movie will finish with an approximate profit of 160-200 million. Nice haul!
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6 hours ago, MovieMan89 said:
Who said anything about it being comparable to WiT? And I've never once heard the $150m number. $175m was what was reported for a long time, but more recent reports were suggesting 200m.
Deadline reported that Ready Player One needed about $440 million dollars worldwide to be profitable. They estimate production + P&A to be be 300-325 million for the film.
http://deadline.com/2018/04/ready-player-one-steven-spielberg-opening-weekend-box-office-1202318581/
As of the close of this weekend 4-8-18 here is where the movie stands.
Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $96,484,703 24.5%
+ Foreign: $297,100,000 75.5%
= Worldwide: $393,584,703
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=readyplayerone.htm
Deadline's numbers are estimates. Regardless, it looks like Ready Player One will have no trouble being profitable. If the movie has not broken even by now it clearly soon will. This means basically all of the money this movie earns after this week will be on the profitable side of the ledger.
Ready Player One is doing great.
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Just now, TwoMisfits said:
Trailer looks way better than the 1st few...and I think I hate Alden Ehrenreich playing the Han role even more...since he seems either under (energy/volume/charisma) or literally trying to mimic it, both without success...
But, the movie might be good enough to bring me in anyway:)...I'm trying to think of the last movie I hated the lead, but still really enjoyed the movie (I will say, Woody Harrelson - damn, if he's as good in the movie as he is in the trailer, maybe it should be his movie:)...I've gotta think on that one:)...
Woody Harrelson is good in almost everything. He is easily one of my favorite actors.
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13 minutes ago, DAR said:
Terrific weekend for AQP and Blockers. Also great drop for RPO
I saw Blockers Saturday night. It was suprisingly better than I expected. Its generally not my type of movie. Audience loved it. John Cena was excellent.
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1 hour ago, Barnack said:
You usually do not need to make 400m with a domestic heavy title like WiT to be profitable with an around 105-120m production budget and a usual 95-130m ww P&A.
That number people has in mind could come from this:
With about $200 million in production and marketing costs, the film needs to finish in the vicinity of $400+ million worldwide to turn a profit from theatrical receipts alone.
That number is completely different one that the GB-break point (and a rather useless / theoretical strange one), if you are domestic heavy (with a release spending that was realistic about) that and have a really large budget, it is perfectly possible to turn a profit without necessarily even doubling or barely doubling your budget at the box office, see http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=themagnificentseven.htm for an example look at Denzel Washington filmography they rarely go over 2.5 time their budget
Mag 7: 162m on a 90m rumored net budget (that one real net budget was probably between 77m to 85m too), it had a limited expectation of it's possible performance (studio had 85m/65m intl for 150m WW in mind) so it had a reasonable 75-85m budget with a 75-85m ww P&A planned in consequence to still turn a profit with that type of box office.
Last 10 year's of Denzel box office vs rumored budget:
RJQ: 12.19m on a 22m (.55)
Fences: 64m on a 24m budget (2.66)
Mag 7: 162m on a 90m budget (real budget around 85m or less) (1.905)
Equalizer: 192m on a 55m budget (was more 73m gross / 63.075m net in reality) (3.04)
2 guns: 131.94m on a 61m budget (nice budget for that pair, 77m gross, 17m tax credit from Louisiana) (2.16)
Flight: 161.77 on 31m (5.21)
Safe house: 208 on a 85m budget (2.44)
Unstoppable: 167.8m on a 100m budget (1.67)
Book of Eli: 157m on a 80m budget (1.96)
Pelham 1-2-3: 150m on a 100m budget (the real net budget was 115.43m) (1.29)
On that last 10 year's, 10 movies, Denzel went above is rumored budget
2.0x: 5 times
2.5x: 3 times
3.0x: 2 times and getting a sequel on one of those
Put it this way in is complete career only 2 Denzel movie reached 200m at the box office (266m American gangster on a +100m budget and Safe House mentioned above on a +85m budget) and their budget's are around 100m.
The men still get paid 25, 30, 35+ million to play in movies with is 20m + first dollar gross deal he tend to get, why ? Domestic heavy, good home ent perf, third party financier easy to find and low risk when he is involved even if the upside potential reward is capped to a low amount.
Denzel Washington? I have no idea what you talking about.
Sometimes when you have to move a discussion this far off topic to prove a point, it may be time to re-evaluate your position.
I'm not here to rain on anybody's parade. I love movies. I want movies to be successful. It breaks my heart to see A Wrinkle In Time do so poorly at the box office. If you want to believe this movie will somehow, against all reasonable estimates, turn a profit on its cinematic run, you are absolutely within your right to do so. I am not here to upset anyone. I only enjoy talking about movies and the movie business. If you think 200 million or so is all that is needed to make A Wrinkle In Time a box office profit bonanza.. have at it.
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1 hour ago, Porthos said:
Thanks for posting. I will see it on opening night Thursday. I hope its good!
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11 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:
Depends on the split. If it did just 60m DOM, then yeah 200 WW wouldn't have been good enough. Wih 100m DOM though, I don't see why it would have needed more than another 100 OS.
A Wrinkle In Time's Production cost is estimated at 100 million dollars
A Wrinkle In time's P&A cost is estimated at 150 million dollars
That's 250 million dollars in investment before anything else is even calculated.
Now it must always be stated that all of these numbers are estimates. However studies have been done showing that usually these estimates undervalue what is actually spent. For instance the production cost of big budget movies is an average of 12% greater than what is publicly reported. As a general rule, movie production costs more than what is reported. Not less.
This movie is not going to turn a profit during its cinematic release.
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3 minutes ago, Zakiyyah6 said:
Well yes it is worst. It makes Tomorrowland's paltry 119mil gross look amazing. I disagree that only 200mil worldwide would have made AWIT a hit. I think 275-300mil was the goal.
+1
There is absolutely no way this movie is profitable at a 200 million world wide gross. That's not debatable.
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Just now, MovieMan89 said:
Lol, well that's a little better. Though I don't see why it couldn't break even around the 200 mark WW given 100m from DOM? There's no way that $250m P&A number you pulled is legit.
The proof reading part of my post was absolutely embarrassing. (The 250 was a typo.)
According to Deadline, production and P&A ran 250 million. These figures are just estimates. And are generally underreported. Having an estimate that a worldwide gross of 350-400 million was needed for this movie to be profitable is reasonable. And given that it currently sits at 111 million it clearly has a long way to go. Whether the magic number is 300 million, 350 million or 400 million, its not going to get there. This movie is going to be millions short of breaking even at the end of its cinematic release.
This movie is a major bust, regardless of what budget estimate figures are used.
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3 minutes ago, Zakiyyah6 said:
I find A Wrinkle in Time's crashing and burning overseas to be every bit as fascinating as when it happened to Power Rangers last year. I mean they couldn't even trick people into the theaters opening weekend.
Question. The book has an American Author. Is the book popular worldwide?
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3 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:
Ha. Sorry that should have been worldwide gross.
Weekend Thread (3/15-3/17): Captain Marvel 68, Wonder Park 15.8, Five Feet Apart 13.2, Dragon 9.3, Madea 7.8
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I agree that MCU’s supporting casts have been great. Brie larson’s supporting cast was fantastic. The support has really helped the MCU movie universe.