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If only this were opening weekend and we could summon Rth with sexy pics and gifs of hot dudes to get this thread back on track.
Alas...
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5 hours ago, ZattMurdock said:
It’s getting there on its first run. Here is what I think:
The narrative has been set so hard on Endgame topping Avatar - literally common folk that don't even follow films at all are talking about it - that they will make sure it happens. It doesn't take as much as people here seem to think:
$1.295B OS-C, C $628m, $866m Dom, equals to $2.789B WW.
It will barely beat it, fueling the narrative that Avatar is to Endgame what Thanos was to the Avengers. And I see domestic left overs carrying that charge. Avatar will always have the adjusted numbers and the possibility of a re-release looming. It is good for both Endgame and Avatar - both owned by Disney - that this happens.
$866 million domestic isn't happening though. $850 million is the ceiling. $835 million isn't out of the question as the floor.
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Yeah, it's looking like Endgame is going to finish in the 835-850 million range. Which is still, of course, fantastic.
Some on here understandably were excited with the prospect of a billion after the OW and thought TFA was "locked". I was optimistic too but I figured that restraint and caution should have been exercised considering no movie had ever pulled in those types of numbers. Legs were always going to be a question mark considering the uncharted waters.
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Taron Egerton was an incredible casting choice for this film.
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15 minutes ago, I Am said:
The only thing I think this shows is that ~$2.8 billion is around the maximum amount any movie will ever be able to make, so conventional predictions and theories cannot be applied to "Endgame," because it's a feat unto its own that it was able to rake in close to that max amount in just three weeks.
With the Chinese market continuing to expand and Africa being a market that will boom in the future, not to mention inflation, I don't agree that $2.8 billion is the cap. Not even close.
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35 minutes ago, MrFanaticGuy34 said:
Looks like Black Panther wasn’t the top grossing superhero-film for long.
Considering people thought 300 million domestic was a reach before Black Panther released, does it really matter? It shattered every expectation and then some. Nothing takes away from the incredible box office run of that film. As a standalone original entry nonetheless which makes it even more remarkable.
Decent hold for Endgame this weekend. If that Sunday hold for Pikachu transpires, solid outing for it as well.
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2 hours ago, ZattMurdock said:
My other hunch:
Once Endgame tops Avatar, and that's around Memorial Weekend, the hype around the film will make the film have bigger legs than expected for a film that opened to the amount Endgame. I believe we'll get Endgame going for a very strong run until Lion King cutting the number of thewter, only to get a rexpansion around August. I think the final multiplier will be around 2.9, with the film making bank from now until October / November. After that, I wouldn't be surprised with a re-release next February due to a possible best film nomination, and going fucking bonkers if wins the Oscar for best film.
Runs of THE biggest films of all time are always wild, and while I get why people are still treating this film like yet another superhero film at the box office, I think we will start singing a different tune around the weekdays of the next week, going into the memorial weekend.
I'd be positively shocked if Endgame gets even a sniff of a Best Picture nomination.
Agree that its late legs have the potential to be pretty solid though.
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3 minutes ago, AndyLL said:
That was crazy. We got there 2 hours early and still about 150th in line. Lines snaked around the theater. Took 45 minutes to get through concussions.
That's one rowdy movie-going audience. And an even more impressive recovery time from serious head injuries.
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Toothless is the GOAT.
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To me, this franchise is the greatest modern trilogy alongside the Rise/Dawn/War of/for the Planet of the Apes trilogy.
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6 hours ago, MovieMan89 said:
Nope, not until they figure out how to fudge IW over BP.
Unfortunately fudging 20 million is a little tougher than $40,000... just slightly tougher.
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I mean, Black Panther was less than 50k away from $700m.
The push is peanuts compared to the fudge and help other films get to hit milestones.
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Next year I wouldn't be surprised to see TLK hit $800m Domestic and $2.2b WW.
I have a feeling that Avengers part 4 isn't going to hit the heights some seem to think though. A $235m OW, $600m Domestic and $1.7b WW haul seems like a fair bet at this point in time.
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21 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:
Not to mention the clear IW hype effect that happened for BP in weeks 10 and 11 inflated its gross. Take that out and its trajectory changes by a solid 5m, if not closer to 10m.
You're ignoring the Black Panther hype effect for IW at the same time.
In either case, these hypothetical adjustments are just that. Just as it is with BP, even though it did receive a late legs boost from IW, I think the same arbitrary claim for IW could be made and who knows if it makes $50m less domestically if Black Panther's hype didn't drive up interest amongst segments of the population who became fans of the MCU and were intrigued by IW due to Black Panther.
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What the hell is happening in this thread.
Also, please hurry up and get to $700m BP so the naysayers and doombringers who think it's going to stall out a couple hundred thousand short can be optimistic and cheerful for a handful of seconds.
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13 minutes ago, Ranger Tree said:
sure but seems like she is Iranian?
Whatever the case don't see how comparing someone to an ape is racist, given we are literally all apes, isn't it kind of inevitable that certain people look more like our relatives than others? just depends on facial structures really. Not to mention that apes do not even have dark skin.
Hopefully this is just ignorance and not being willfully dense. Because it's painful to read.
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16 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:
it's super cool that i've never met a person who'd say stuff like "SJWs" or "identity politics" or stuff like that in real life. could you imagine hearing those phrases, like actually spoken out loud by someone who meant it, and not immediately trying to cut your own ears off? SO embarrassing.
Thought I'd taken a hard right turn to the cesspools of Reddit for a second and had to double check I was on BOT seeing those terms littering this thread.
But yeah, just seeing them written is straight up laughable and I can't imagine keeping a straight face if I heard them uttered in real life. Though, and I think it was this thread, the brief "soyboy" discussion earlier reminded me that the first time I ever heard that I thought it was referring to a new Starbucks craze. Wish I never learned the actual meaning of that one and could've lived in ignorance.
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2 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:
Jake Sully, Neytiri, tsu'tey, mo'at, Miles Quaritch, Selfridge, Dr Grace, Norm, Trudey and Norm.
these people have dementia
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$60 million 3rd weekend is awesome for IW. Would definitely keep $700M well in play.
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Some people are determined to feel disappointed just for the sake of being disappointed by having placed these ridiculous expectations in their minds of what IW was going to do.
Eternal pessimists looking for something to complain about.
Calling a 110+ 2nd weekend "horrible" is so out of touch with reality I don't even know where to begin.
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Insane Monday # for IW. I mean, what else can you say at this point. Internationally it is just straight up ridiculous too.
Great Monday for Black Panther as well. Chances at $700m are what, 80%?
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3 minutes ago, Thrylos 7 said:
Honest to God reading posts like this makes me think that I live in the sixties. Hollywood traditions went upside down in the seventies, nobody was waiting for BP. I mean there’s been a gazillion of films/tv shows with people of every race and color being the heroes, the stars. I mean I sort of understand a movie like bo touching some people more, I really do and I mentioned this in my mini review in this forum after I watched the film, it even touched me and I am white but statements about “studios questioning their traditions” in....2018 are simply wrong , I am sorry but that’s just the way it is.
Interesting post.
The fact is, Black Panther doesn't have a comparable in terms of anything else Hollywood has ever put out in terms of faithfully executing a film that could (and did) appeal to not only the still woefully underserved minority audience, but general audiences of every creed from every walk of life.
I think you're misunderstanding Black Panther's impact beyond the fact that it was another incredible installment in Marvel's string of Phase 3 runaway successes. Besides being an excellent comic book film, it had an intriguing and multifaceted antagonist, a titular character who audiences were excited to learn more about, a locale steeped in African culture while at the same time celebrating Afrofuturism in a way its never before been depicted on screen and an important sociopolitical message tastefully weaved throughout in a way that perfectly complemented the other aspects of the film.
Comparing Black Panther to what has come before it, those films and television shows you mentioned that had minority leads as protagonists, is an insult to what Coogler and company put on the screen. Not because they weren't good or important but because they didn't come close to putting it together in as good a manner or with the quality Black Panther did.
To say "nobody" was waiting for Black Panther is insulting to those who have waited their entire lives to see a film like BP. I mean, the box office figures speak for themselves when it comes to Black Panther's place amongst Super Hero films even beyond the MCU but judging by the cultural zeitgeist is created (thanks due in large part to a massive amount of non-traditional movie goers feeling like they needed to see the film), I'm not sure your interpretation of what people were or were not waiting for is entirely grounded in reality.
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Memorial Weekend Thread: 4-Day Actuals - Aladdin $116.81M | John Wick 3 $30.97M | Avengers Endgame $22.06M | Pokemon DP $17.25M
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How people can make a mountain out a molehill from a simple and innocuous tweet is beyond me. There's absolutely nothing wrong with what Olivia said.
Why do people take others' words, twist them to suit their own interpretation while applying disingenuous context and then blame the "evil liberals/lefties"? That was rhetorical of course but we see this crap all the time from those who scream at the top of their lungs about the "left". They did it to Brie Larson's calls for more inclusitivity in the press junket/circuit before Captain Marvel premiered and they do it whenever they get even the slightest possible hint of someone possibly referencing the idea of representation and equality brought up in any medium of entertainment.
Gets tiring having to explain that what someone has misinterpreted is not what was actually stated.