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    DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE | 07.26.2024 | Disney | latest trailer on page 76

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    I've always wanted to post this somewhere: here's probably the simplest possible organization of the Fox X-Men timeline, the way I see it.

     

    Old Timeline

    First Class

    Origins: Wolverine

    X-Men, X2, and The Last Stand

    The Wolverine

    Days of Future Past 

     

    New Timeline

    PAST: Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix

    PRESENT: Deadpool 1&2, [Legion/The Gifted ???], and The New Mutants

    FUTURE: Logan

     

    Of course, it all doesn't exactly line up, but pretend like it does. 

     

    From what little we know so far about this new film: it would be easier for it to start off in this universe before jumping into the MCU. Interestingly, it'll be handled completely by Marvel Studios and not by Donner, Kinberg, etc.

     

    Weekend Thread | Estimates: Avatar 19.7, Puss 11.5, M3GAN 9.8, Missing 9.3, Otto 9

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    I wasn't following much box office or Avatar discussions back in 2010-14, so does anyone remember when exactly people (beyond the Cameron cult) grew less impressed with the first movie and got tired of hearing about the sequels' development?
    I feel it had to have been around the time The Hobbit movies were being released and The Force Awakens was gearing up, but I'd be curious if the "no cultural impact" stuff settled before then.
    I know that things will be different this time around, now that we know the next movie is actually coming up soon.

    The Warner Bros. Thread | Will NOT merge with Paramount...capitalism is still terrible

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    Here is WB's slate next year, as it currently stands:

    House Party

    Magic Mike

    Mummies

    Shazam

    Evil Dead

    The Flash

    Barbie

    The Meg

    Blue Beetle

    The Nun

    Dune

    Wonka

    The Color Purple

    Aquaman

    It's definitely more stacked than the last couple of years, with all but one from a recognizable IP: no almost-straight-to-Max Those Who Wish Me Deads nor risky Don't Worry Darlings here. If they all stick to their planned dates, does anyone think WB can climb out of the gutter? Or will these films end up being too unappealing to the masses? Should any of them be delayed?

    Weekend Thread - 9/12-11/12

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    Regarding the Avengers team: I think it's a rather tall order to go to a group of people who had just spent years of their lives crafting not just one but two multimillion dollar-budgeted epics with hundreds of actors and loads of complicated VFX, paying off multiple previous films that had to satisfy audiences around the world... and expect them to do it again and expect the same results.

    I know no one really likes their post-Marvel projects, but they seem to be satisfied with making those at this moment. 

     

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    The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other

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    I've thought of all the ways WB should appropriately handle this film:

     

    1.  Don't spend too much on marketing. This movie's production costs are expensive enough as it is with the many delays and VFX and reshoots and high-profile actors. TV spots, toys, and a soundtrack are enough: nothing like Black Adam's ineffective global tour (I imagine Johnson's scheduling to promote that film was a factor as to why WB didn't move its release date earlier). 

    2. Keep Miller out of the spotlight. Yes, it's jarring to not have the lead around to promote the film: but in this case, I think people will understand. If they must have the talk shows and press interviews and magazine shoots and red carpet photos: Keaton, Clemons, Calle, and whoever else can still work out. 

    3. Don't put any sequel/future franchise bait in the film. None of us knows exactly how this film will end: but to avoid another Justice League (or any failed franchise film in general): just handle this as a complete story.  Treat it like Iron Man 3 or even Avengers: Endgame, where one can walk out of the film satisfied without needing to see more. [Personally, I'd have Barry sacrifice himself at the end like in the classic Crisis story, and keep him dead unlike Superman, but I don't know what the filmmakers nor the studio want.]

     

    I also wish (if the studio was too ashamed to release it on its own) Batgirl could have been included on the Blu-ray as a special feature "bonus movie" (a practice that was common back in the 2000s e.g. Anchorman, The Darjeeling Limited, Inglorious Basterds, Where the Wild Things Are), but I suppose those days are over.

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    The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other

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    When WB made Man of Steel a decade ago, their only intention for that film was to revitalize the Superman franchise, Batman Begins-style. The decision to make it the launching point for a DC cinematic universe came very late, after Green Lantern failed to do that.  That hastiness is why they're still in this confusing mess in the first place. 

    It'd be like if they decided today to make Barbie (which looks like a standalone film) share the same continuity as the Abrams-produced Hot Wheels film they're currently developing.

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    The Little Mermaid | Disney | May 26, 2023 | Queen Halle will rule the summer!

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    To be real, what makes me trepidatious about this film isn't the casting or the music, but what the script could turn out to be.

    As a kid in the 2000s, before social media took off, TLM was THE Disney film that people around me loved to complain about more than any other: "She risks her life for a MAN? One she hardly knows? At age 16?" 

    And since a big staple of these remakes, like BATB and Aladdin, are the filmmakers attempting to make these stories more "relevant" by addressing/solving pointless nitpicks folks had about the originals: imagine what they'll do in a vain attempt to try to appease everybody.

    But I'm not going to dwell on this subject any longer. As others have mentioned before, Disney's quickly running out of these things, and this era will soon cease like the DTV sequel phase did. It's not like they're gonna pivot the other way and make an animated remake of Eight Below or something.

     

    THE OFFICIAL BLACK PANTHER: WAKANDA FOREVER WEEKEND THREAD | 181M OW

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    So in the time since the 1st BP in 2018:  there are still no more Star Wars spinoff films, Detective Pikachu ranked only 18th WW in 2019, Mortal Engines and Alita both tanked, CRA didn't take off as a franchise, Depp lost Grindelwald, New Mutants came out during a global pandemic, Gambit didn't get made, Jeffrey Katzenberg's "new TV" venture didn't last a year, AT&T's ownership of WB sputtered, we finally got an Oscar telecast that cut most of the categories, and everybody hated the Wonder Woman sequel.

    But through it all: at least James Gunn won in the end.

     

     

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