Clouseau
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The "it's only down to fanboys" angle looks plain stupid to me. Surely no fanbase in the world can drive a movie to $2 billion, never mind nearer $3 billion. If it could, then wouldn't Harry Potter, Star Wars, Hunger Games, Batman, even bloody Pickachu all gross $2 billion every movie?!
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15 minutes ago, terrestrial said:
If the rumours about SMFFH needed $1b ww for the future use of SM in the MCU and so on are correct, I still think the push thing was more for that than reaching #1.
Getting that near around the release of SMFFH I guess will have added to that, but not the starting point to think about the additional scenes reason.
Are there any informations out about when the additional scene got filmed?
The decision had to be more than a day earlier, actors need to find a common possible date first.....
Even if fast, I guess all is possible from a few days up to a few weeks, but than post still has to work on it too, and so on.
How much post work?
I haven't seen the additional scenes, just in case: no SMFFH spoilers please.
Some scenes, even if short, need tons of post work, and some wont need that much.
Additional scenes in Endgame? There aren't any. Maybe I'm misinterpreting the question?
The Avengers Endgame playing now is exactly the same as opening day, not a Special Edition or extended version. All it has as "bonus content" after the end credits is a short Tribute to Stan Lee video, a short unfinished live action / animatic Hulk deleted scene, and the very first scene of FFH as a teaser for that movie. I think that was all.
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Looking at performance of past Spider-Man franchises, FFH not grossing considerably less than HC would be a win, right?
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An Avatar re-release before A2 would not be a good move IMO. Better let A2 emerge into the glow of A1's reputation, rather than re-release A1 shortly before and risk today's 3D jaded generation slating it on social media (because genuine event that it was in 2010, without the punch of 3D-like-we'd-never-seen-before, Avatar is not that great a movie). There's little to gain from a re-release (a few million on the A1 gross) and a lot to lose (potentially many millions knocked off the A2 gross if the anticipation bubble is punctured by a lukewarm A1 response). Do some double features the year after A2 would be my approach to putting A1 back in cinemas. YMMV. 😉
Anyway, I've not been terribly confident on AE surmounting Avatar, not because of any deficiency in Endgame but because movies seem to have to make their money so quickly these days. And yet in only three months Endgame looks certain to get the record. That's the astounding thing IMO, not just getting the record but the speed at which it will get it.
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3 minutes ago, GOATPeterJackson said:
It wouldn't be a good look from either Disney or Marvel to do a literal public announcement/celebration. I would think Feige is above that kind of pettiness.
He'd let Downey make the actual announcement. He would revel in it. 😉
With the digital release a week later, it would be a great time to get the huge publicity of becoming the #1 movie. Although the DVD release is a couple of weeks or so beyond that too, so really anytime in the next five weeks is a good time to take the title. (And no, there isn't a bad time, but before the home media release would be especially useful!)
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I see mentions of OS final grosses on movies eventually turning out to be higher than initially thought (when the results are simply being reported week-to-week during release). If this is a genuine effect, would it be possible with some special effort from Disney's accountants to get a true up-to-date WW total that adds some of those missing millions in a more timely manner?
I ask because two weeks from now the Avengers cast reassemble with Feige for a Marvel panel at SDCC and it would a hell of a time to make a surprise announcement that the WW gross had hit $2788M.
Remotely possible, or not really feasible?
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And that's what a collective stunned silence sounds like on the internet.
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4 minutes ago, Moses said:
No it is not
The target is 2789
Oh yeah my mistake. I've pushed around too many numbers today.
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Target looks so easy now. 😂
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1 hour ago, terrestrial said:
not final / not finished
For the drops... giving an impression
Daily Domestic Chart for Wednesday May 15, 2019
← Previous Chart Chart Index Movie Distributor Gross Change Thtrs. Per Thtr. Total Gross Days 1 (1) Avengers: Endgame Walt Disney $3,788,021 -34% 4,662 $813 $737,978,374 20 2 (2) Pokémon: Detective Pikachu Warner Bros. $3,100,000 -42% 4,202 $738 $66,496,074 6 3 (3) The Hustle MGM $855,709 -42% 3,007 $285 $16,268,423 6 - (4) Poms STX Entertainment $566,931 -42% 2,750 $206 $7,435,407 6 - (5) The Intruder Sony Pictures $530,000 -40% 2,222 $239 $23,597,038 13 - (7) UglyDolls STX Entertainment $258,392 -36% 3,652 $71 $15,411,931 13 - (8) Tolkien Fox Searchlight $188,274 -37% 1,495 $126 $2,888,639 6 - (9) Breakthrough 20th Century Fox $156,488 -41% 1,902 $82 $37,811,721 34 - (10) The Curse of La Llorona Warner Bros. $153,000 -32% 1,182 $129 $52,001,563 27 - (11) Captain Marvel Walt Disney $143,193 -27% 1,504 $95 $424,301,102 69 - (12) Shazam! Warner Bros. $75,000 -29% 936 $80 $137,355,471 41 - (15) Dumbo Walt Disney $54,460 -16% 837 $65 $111,169,232 48 - (13) Little Universal $47,015 -38% 586 $80 $39,882,885 34 - (-) Penguins Walt Disney $40,545 -2% 285 $142 $7,173,372 29 - (-) Us Universal $32,580 -12% 266 $122 $174,513,680 55 - (14) Student of the Year 2 FIP $30,067 -58% 190 $158 $599,161 6 - (-) Pet Sematary Paramount Pictures $26,234 -14% 304 $86 $54,325,891 41 - (-) Missing Link United Artists $13,228 +5% 202 $65 $16,390,608 34 - (-) How to Train Your Dragon: T… Universal $13,105 +6% 187 $70 $160,176,160 83 - (-) The Mustang Focus Features $9,825 -1% 118 $83 $5,034,030 62 - (-) Unplanned Pure Flix Entertain… $9,656 +141% 55 $176 $18,017,974 48 - (-) High Life A24 $5,980 -27% 52 $115 $1,185,228 41 - (-) Hotel Mumbai Bleecker Street $5,610 -24% 50 $112 $9,511,536 55 - (-) After Aviron Pictures $5,018 -39% 90 $56 $12,074,487 34 - (-) The Best of Enemies STX Entertainment $3,370 -10% 81 $42 $10,202,335 41 - (-) Gloria Bell A24 $1,320 -32% 24 $55 $5,603,178 69 - (-) Fighting With My Family United Artists $824 +10% 28 $29 $22,954,351 91 - (-) Frank and Ava Gravitas Ventures $196 +38% 2 $98 $12,669 160 Isn't that single day's US gross exactly 1/1000th of the target for the entire worldwide run for Endgame to become #1 all-time?
Extrapolate from that, stat fans! 😁
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18 minutes ago, LonePirate said:
Every franchise stumbles: The Living Daylights and Licence to Kill, for example.
Which proves that some fluctuation doesn't mean a franchise is over; Die Another Day is widely held to be the worst Bond movie, and it was followed by Casino Royale, which many would say is the best. When one MCU movie makes less than another (even a LOT less than another), the series can just keep rolling along. Lose some followers, gain others.
The MCU is now so established with the younger generation that it has an inbuilt audience for decades to come, just as the Star Wars movies of the 70s and 80s captured a generation in the US and UK. The Marvel impact is apparently far greater, as it is strong worldwide. Horrifying as it may be to some people, this franchise isn't going anywhere for a LONG time! 😄
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4 minutes ago, LonePirate said:
I wouldn’t call it fatigue so much as graduating from high school/secondary school and moving on to the next stage in your life. Life changes and it’s time for something new.
As one person leaves a stage in life, someone else grows into it. If the product stays consistent, it needn't fade. The Bond series is approaching 60 years old; a lot of the original audience are long dead! 😢
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Why does the title of this thread never change?
"1664.2 M worldwide" is so last month. 😄
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A role for Shang-Chi is possible. The characters operated in similar worlds; Black Widow was in Russian intelligence then US intelligence, Shang-Chi defected to the UK and worked for British intelligence.
The character's backstory may get Americanised in the details, but an appearance would still be a neat set up for his own movie the following year. A director has been assigned to Shang Chi so he could be in on the casting process for a Black Widow role.
Black Widow vs Fu Manchu (Shang Chi's father) would be a hell of a storyline! 😮 Somehow though I doubt such a stereotypical evil Oriental crimelord would appeal to Marvel producers. 😁
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2 hours ago, Krissykins said:
Here in the UK, the weekend drops for Endgame have been really heavy:
2nd weekend: -66.5%
3rd weekend: -67.5%
I guess the 1st to 2nd might be heavy because the movie opened Wed night, making the 1st "weekend" pretty long!
Then the 2nd to 3rd might be heavy because the 2nd weekend was a holiday Monday, allowing Sunday nights to be stronger.
Also, yesterday was the end of the Premier League season so many people would not be drawn away from their TVs for any reason. 😁
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1 minute ago, Clubs Are Trash said:
why would they be needed to be out of the house?
I'll explain when you're older. 😉
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1 minute ago, Marek the Jedi said:
can AEG get a little help from summer days? or it will be too late?
Any parents / older siblings who want kids out of the house in summer will find the option of sending them to see Endgame a godsend; four hours peace!
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2 hours ago, stealthyfrog said:
Yeah, I'm getting a bit worried that Disney tentpoles (MCU, Star Wars, live-action remakes) are the only big-budget blockbusters that succeed these days.
There's Bond too outside of the Disney properties, the original big-budget blockbusters! Even the disappointing Spectre made almost $900M WW and Skyfall was well over $1billion. That was 7 years ago too, and with ZERO boost from 3D showings.
If they get the villain and story right, and Furious drops a little from the last one, Bond 25 could be the #1 WW movie next year. Skyfall was only second to The Avengers in 2012, so perhaps OO7 coming out on top wouldn't be so crazy in a generally weak 2020.
Black Widow might feel some effect as well, what with following only one month after Bond, but whether up or down I couldn't say! 😁
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I'm not a gamer at all so this is just an impression, but isn't a movie of a game inherently an inferior experience? Expecting Pokemon players to all turn out for a Pikachu movie is like expecting everyone who went to see Avengers Endgame to all watch Agents of SHIELD.
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On 5/7/2019 at 11:51 PM, Mr Terrific said:
So... ?
BP 2 - Feb 2021
??? - May 2021
Dr. Strange 2 - Nov 2021
Shang-Chi - Feb 2022
CM 2 - May 2022
Spider-Man - July 2022
I desperately want Guardians 3 in that 2021 slot, but that seems like wishful thinking. Also, will a third Ant-Man happen?
If they can't get Guardians 3 done for the May '21 slot they'll need something suitably large-scale to take it's place so perhaps they could go with Nova. Feige has previously said it is in development, and it would also satisfy his "something new every year" rule (which Guardians wouldn't if DS2 is Nov).
Nova could play out (at least in part) in similar Guardians cosmic territory, and would also allow an opportunity to show Thanos' attack on Xandar, which would doubtless be a hit with audiences.
Or maybe Fantastic Four is on the fast track now? 😮
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The thing about Beauty and the Beast nostalgia (and I guess this goes for The Lion King too) is that it's not about nostalgia for the 1991 release, it's about nostalgia among people who watched the movie 36 times on DVD when they were little, and every year since 1991 that demographic has been growing!
Even 13 year olds could be nostalgic about watching the animated Beauty and the Beast as young children when the live-action version came along. 😁
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8 minutes ago, baumer said:
Well, there's a reason it's so expensive. Besides all the CGI, the salaries for this must be astronomical. Getting all of these stars into one movie isn't cheap. Wouldn't surprise me if they paid out 150 mill in up front salaries.
The huge cast bill was spread across the Infinity War / Endgame double though. I saw the Russos explain in an interview that by filming the two together they could get the cast for two movies at the cost of only a bit more than one movie would have been.
EDIT: IIRC, they said that was the ONLY reason for doing the two together.
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2 minutes ago, Mr Terrific said:
Not sure who would be a good fit for a cameo. Could do Hawkeye, of course.
If it's an "origin" period story, there's scope for Hawkeye, Nick Fury, Winter Soldier, Agent Coulson, Maria Hill, Jasper Sitwell, even a very old Peggy Carter! 😁
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15 minutes ago, Barnack said:
If anyone have any idea how much it did worldwide to start with, would be interesting. I do not think worldwide chart were quite precise back then and a lot of movies would have played once the war was well over.
I think it got beat unadjusted by newer release and retook number one when re-releasing but was basically number on unadjusted untile the Godfather 33 year's later.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films#Timeline_of_highest-grossing_films
Like sound of music took the lead for 5 year's during that time:
Established Title Record setting gross Reference(s) 1915[56] The Birth of a Nation $5,200,000R [# 86] 1940 $15,000,000R ‡ [# 301] 1940[29] Gone with the Wind $32,000,000R [# 136] 1963 $67,000,000R ‡ [# 302] 1966[56] The Sound of Music $114,600,000R [# 210] 1971[56] Gone with the Wind $116,000,000R ‡ [# 303] 1972[56] The Godfather $127,600,000–142,000,000R [# 236][# 304] 1976[79][80] Jaws $193,700,000R [# 251] 1978[81][82] Star Wars $410,000,000/$268,500,000R [# 305][# 236] 1982 $530,000,000 ‡ [# 256] 1983[83] E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial $619,000,000–664,000,000 [# 256][# 268] 1993 $701,000,000 ‡ [# 306] 1993[56] Jurassic Park $914,691,118 [# 55] 1998[84] Titanic $1,843,201,268 [# 4] 2010[85][86] Avatar $2,749,064,328 [# 1] That period of inactvity across the 40s, 50s, until mid-60s, is remarkable. As is six different movies then holding the title over the following 15 years or so. Maybe we are heading into a similar period of volatility in the 2020s?
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Given the high ticket sales, I assume that at some point Gone With The Wind topped the All-time Worldwide chart. If so, when did it lose that position?
I can't think of anything before The Exorcist that might have grossed more worldwide except for maybe some Disney movies racking up high totals across their re-releases (like GWTW). Was GWTW the #1 movie for decades?!? I remember that even as late as the 1980s the movie debuting on TV was a huge event.
AVENGERS ENDGAME | 1939.4 M overseas ● 2797.8 M worldwide
in International Box Office
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Ahh right, a 21 movie build-up... so THAT'S why "Quantum of Solace" broke all records. 🤦♂️