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1 hour ago, AJG said:
Off-Topic but relates to the weekend thread - these Zelda numbers are phenomenal but there is absolutely no way numbers this small could impact box office.
I don’t know if that’s sarcasm but that is not small. This is one of the biggest game launches of all time. Zelda also did this on one platform (Switch). Pretty much the biggest exclusive launch of all time.
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1 hour ago, JustLurking said:
Yeah, unlike Puss whose legs were terrible, unfortunately the PVOD release really ended that film.
What was Puss gross without early PVOD?
Exactly.
Need I remind people that The Last Wish is still the lowest grossing Shrek movie despite the so called “great” legs. And sequels tend to do better, but “Rise Of Gru” failed to top Minions despite the huge viral movement and long 7 years anticipation. -
6 minutes ago, thajdikt said:
Hogwarts legacy grossed 850M from 12M copies, so Zelda is easily going 1B, might even go to 1,5B if sales are even better. Those collector editions get sold no matter what.
Hogwarts didn’t do 850M over the weekend lol. That’s two weeks after launch. I don’t think Zelda will do 15 million in 3-days lol. 10 million+ would already be huge for Zelda/the whole damn industry.
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2 hours ago, MovieMan89 said:
Yeah, its a sequel to the game widely regarded as the best game of all time, 6 years in the making, Switch has an install base now of over 120 million players, has already broken tons of website traffic records on all the large game sites, getting incredible reviews, etc.
I would expect something like 15 million copies to be sold this weekend. Which in movie talk, would be like a $200m+ opening weekend,
Zelda costs 70$ a pop at 15 million copies. That’s over a billion actually (1.050.000.000$ to be precise 🤓). That’s not even counting the collectors edition which retails for $129.99 a pop.
15 million in 3 days would be biggest game launch of all time. That’s nuts. Even Animal Crossing in the midst of the pandemic couldn’t do that. I think 10+ million in the first 3 days (weekend) is a safer bet.
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2 hours ago, lorddemaxus said:
Huh???? What are you on about? Audiences liked the movie. It's why it got a sequel.
I don’t know anyone who likes it outside of Film Twitter. Same with Margot Robbie/Ryan Gosling. “Barbie” would be another interesting watch to see if Twitter hype materializes to anything.
Also, I think Mermaid will do well despite Twitter and certain groups being against it.
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1. The Marvels: $500M
3. Hunger Games: $450M
3. Dune 2: $350M
I think Dune 2 will tank because now people know it’s not good. The first movie was the first movie. People don’t know what to expect, so they are willing to give it a chance. They jumped on it for the novelty of it all. The potential for a huge franchise starter, which did not happen. Not the second time me fears.
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13 hours ago, TigerPaw said:
To be honest, the impact is minimal. CAM copy, pirates wont go to the cinema anyway. And anyone planning to see it, wont be affected by piracy - especially if it is an animated movie that entertain your kids for 90mins in a theater. Puss in Boots 2 / Sing 2 were not impacted much (if any) by HD leaked copy from early VOD release..
I mean p!rate sites and t0rrents are extra work that most people wouldn’t be bothered with. The people who do p!rate and t0rrent movies have to actively search for it, and yeah a lot of them wouldn’t go to the cinema anyways. BUT Twitter is very much public and easy access. It is not some obscure site. This can absolutely affect causal viewers/movie goers. “Sing 2” leaked at a time when this wasn’t possible. Also, I haven’t seen Puss leaked on twitter until recently. It already finished its run. Mario is still in its fourth weekend. One tweet logs over 15 million views! There were multiple tweets up for days. No pirate site can ever get that much reach/views.
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The movie was tweeted by a bunch of big accounts with millions of followers lol 💀. Also, people with check marks got priority on their tweets. The tweets got on people’s timelines even if you didn’t follow them. Tons of people saw it, even if they didn’t want to.
This absolutely affect people who are more causal/still on the fence and badly spoiled the movie for those are planning to see it.
Who’s to blame? I blame Elon’s new twitter. It’s a stup!d idea to allow people to upload hours long high quality HD videos. Because of the p!ss poor moderation (or lack thereof) twitter is having right now, p!racy is rampant and on a whole new large scale level. YouTube is instant at detecting p!racy and have appropriate punishment. These accounts on twitter are still posting a bunch of movies after one is taken down lol. The accounts didn’t get banned or anything. Just the tweets. I genuinely hope the big studios start suing twitter.
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Half of Mario? 30%??? Bomb me fears. Didn’t Mario start slow? As it is not really a fan rushed movie.
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42 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:
Hitting a billion next week
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Imo, The Little Mermaid is the only movie that has a real chance of breaking out (touching a billion). Elemental is going to struggle methinks. It will either bomb or just medium. I just can’t see it doing anything big.
Spider-Verse 2 will increase, but my biggest problem after seeing the trailer is that they are doing way too much with this art style. The first movie was nice, but this is like going so overboard that it is not aesthetically pleasing anymore. It’s unnecessary busy visual noise that could potentially turn a lot of people off. It’s just not very mainstream-looking, if that makes sense—less so than the first one even. It looks more and more like an art-house indie short film. Those don’t do well because of the weird art styles. It just looks niche.
I can’t see families with kids going to see it either (the visuals, the flashing lights, idk). Also, It feels very young male adult/teen oriented.
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Yes, it is, in fact, overrated. I cringed every time someone brought The Last Wish up as some cornerstone of animation, like BFR.
Arcane was mentioned because it did the painterly style 10x better. I brought it up because they tired to do the same artistically. Spiderverse is similar, but that is more comic style, and imo that is also better than Puss. This style has been done. It’s not something The Last Wish pioneered or popularized, like some people are suggesting. “Popularized” is even more questionable because it ain’t that popular. Oscar? Also zero. It is very much a trend hopping nostalgia bait animated movie. This style of animation is “cool” right now.
Ok, the box office run is okay, good, but it’s still the lowest grossing Shrek movie (as I repeat what Grace Randolph said). It didn’t do alla dat either, commercially speaking. Puss also didn’t drive families or whatever, as it’s barely out of the flop range (for its budget, it did well, but I’m talking on a grander scope, so don’t come for me). It's still mainly an enthusiast movie. The general public did not come in droves to see this movie. It’s film people, fvrr!es, and animation n3rds. Little Timmy and his little sister don’t know what this movie is. I’m just stating facts that I’m seeing.
In terms of awards, Arcane and Spidey >>> The Last WishIn terms of recent box office, Minions >>> The Last Wish
Artistically mid, commercially mid, box office run good. It did not excel on the fronts that people were claiming it to be. Smokes and mirrors.
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Puss In Boots is part of the Shrek franchise lol. It’s not some original ip. It too very much used nostalgia.
Mario didn’t owe anyone anything. Y’all seriously think that if Puss didn’t come out, Mario would tank? Bfr. People will still come regardless of when it releases. People are still underestimating the movie…even now, after all this??? I don’t wanna be that person, but no one knows what a The Last Wish is. 480 million is good for what it is, but like it’s not that good. It’s no huge smash. It did jussst enough to revive the Shrek franchise. Anything less would’ve spelled trouble. It’s not some huge thing that’ll influence a whole genre, which Mario is very likely to be. Mario will change the game for Video Game adaptations, no doubt about it.
Oh, and Arcane >>> The Last Wish. With eeeease.
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I agree that it needs to stay rotten just to prove how out of touch most critics are.
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1 billion Crash movie? Bfr 😂
Crash will most likely be another Ratchet.
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13 minutes ago, grim22 said:
The Renfield trailer has 45M views. Wonder if 4.5M people will end up watching the movie WW.
That’s more than twice the amount of the Mario movie wtf. The latest trailer also has 19 million views while Mario final trailer barely scraped 10 million.
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A Zelda movie will be another billion dollar plus movie methinks.
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I mean Shinkai has been remaking the same movie over again and over again 🤭, so I don’t blame them.
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Mario is a cultural icon in Asia. Nintendo has always been popular in Asia, as well as in the rest of Japan.
Europe and the UK in particular have always been Nintendo's weakest markets. Sega dominated the UK once upon a time (the 90s). Europe is the land of the PlayStation. And Nintendo has no market share at all in South America. There wasn’t even a digital store in Brazil until 2020, lol. There’s no official product distribution.
The box office turnout so far has been very interesting. Lopsided in some cases compared to the gaming industry.
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Still shocking to think this were the estimates just a few weeks ago.
Quote‘Super Mario Bros. Movie’ To Score At Least $85M-$90M+ 5-Day
https://deadline.com/2023/03/super-mario-bros-movie-box-office-projection-1235301498/
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People expecting “character arcs” in a Mario movie 😂. As long as Miyamoto is alive and involved, there will be no such thing. Miyamoto has spoken out again and again against complex stories and as well as things that could change the perception of these iconic characters.
SpoilerHe’s out there saying no to stories even now. They were hesitant to even add a back story in the movie:
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Detective Pikachu is a movie you make after making three other Pokémon origin stories. Choosing that first to establish the franchise on the big screen was a mistake imo. Pokémon absolutely have broad appeal, both to kids and adults, just not for this spin-off.
Detective Pikachu, a noir buddy cop movie starring R-rated Deadpool actor Ryan Reynolds, confused a lot of families. They did not go see that movie. Also, the trailers made it seem more adult than it is, so people expecting a more adult tone left the theater disappointed because it’s a kids movie and the people that were supposed to see it (families) did not go as stated by the reason above.
SpoilerAlso, for the movie itself, I liked it overall, but I didn’t enjoy the dialogue very much (and the ableist leaning narrative). It suffered from a bad case of exposition trying to explain the series concepts. It felt very much like a shonen anime with too much talking and explaining. This wouldn’t be a big problem if there were other movies establishing the concepts beforehand. I also thought the actors were about 3–5 years too old. The dialogue doesn’t sound like someone of that age talking, but rather younger. I hope that makes sense. Another big problem is that the Pokémon designs were not my favorites. They should’ve kept the iconic designs instead of changing them to look more realistic. The movie needed to be more bright and colorful in general. It is very much a WB production (Harry Potter, DC, etc. all had that grimy look), and that doesn’t really fit Pokémon. Pokémon is about exploring the green grass, the blue sky, and the sea. A color palette like Moana would fit very well.
Mario is a very faithful adaptation, retaining all the iconic visual designs and the narrative beats of the main series.SpoilerAs for the pop songs, the series was already heading in that direction by having vocal tracks. Super Mario Odyssey (the latest mainline game) had pop songs, albeit originals written specifically for the game. So yes, the movie is very faithful.
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Global record for Mario
. Who would’ve thunk?
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I mean Mario games/Nintendo in general are popular/well known in Asia, so this is bizarre.
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Weekdays Thread (5/15-18) | Guardians $5.18M Monday
in Numbers and Data
Posted · Edited by OceanBlvd
Japan holding the numbers back. It only “tied” with Pokémon because of Japan. Zelda has never been big in Japan (it was always western leaning) until BOTW, but Pokémon is on another level. It outperformed Pokémon in every other territory except Japan. With that said, the sales in Japan despite being lower than Pokémon is vastly higher than what series used to sell in Japan. The growth is apparent even in Japan (one of its weakest markets). The fact that now, Zelda is toe to toe with these massive franchises in sales is already crazy because this series sells good, but it was never this huge. Zelda has always been more of a critical darling prestige series. Now it has massive numbers to match.
This bodes well if there’s an upcoming movie. The IP commercial trajectory is 📈📈📈.