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  1. 19 minutes ago, Liiviig 1998 said:

    NWH literally had previous iterations coming together.

    That doesn't guarantee A+ CinemaScore and $1.9 billion without China, ever heard of The Flash?

    19 minutes ago, Liiviig 1998 said:

    DS2 had mixed reception and literally fell off after OW.

    It still made a lot money and multiverse was a big reason for it.

     

    19 minutes ago, Liiviig 1998 said:

    Once again are we doing because a movie making money automatically makes it good.

    Literally your argument was that "the GA really doesn't dig multiverse", which is objectively wrong. Why are you shifting the goal post to something that's subjective and you're in the minority in? Every MCU multiverse project (NWH, Loki, What If...?) is critically acclaimed with the exception of DS2 which is still fairly decent received by critics and mixed by audience.

  2. 3 hours ago, ThomasNicole said:

    Overperformances is always measured based on prior expectations, that was in the same range of Marvels and Flash, it passed them very easily by a good margin and it’s not a bomb anymore, this shouldn’t be worthy of discussions at this point. 

    That depends which expectations you're talking about here because for the longest time, from 2019 until right before The Flash imploded, no one was predicting Aquaman to flop as hard as it's doing right now. It's certainly not an overperformance when WB greenlit it.

  3. 13 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

    Yikes. We have some reddit troll here. I would recommend ignoring it.

    How so?

    13 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

    At least WB have "fired" everyone who is part of DCEU for the embarassing failure of Flash 🙂

    Except for the director, writer and producer.

  4. 3 minutes ago, John Marston said:


    The Flash is an embarrassing failure but The Marvels is the more embarrassing

    failure because it is actually supposed to be a set up for the future

    Yeah and The Flash was suppose to reset the DC Universe according to Gunn and it had way more popular characters in it than The Marvels, basically every DC A/B listers was in it.

    3 minutes ago, John Marston said:

    the Infinity Saga was fully announced in 2014 so it had been planned out already. That means the multiverse saga is the first time Feige has had full creative control 

    You mean Phase 3 was announced in 2014, Ike didn't want Iron Man in Civil War, he didn't want to make Black Panther and Captain Marvel (those are the most profitable solo MCU movies btw), he only agreed to announce those if they made Inhumans, that's why when he was fired they dropped Inhumans. Russos and the writers were ready to leave if Ike wasn't fired, and I doubt Civil War/Infinity War/Endgame would've as successful with a different talent. Phase 3 is 100% Feige's. The movies themselves and even the slate would be different without him.

  5. Just now, John Marston said:


     

    The Flash had a toxic actor and was part of a dead universe. The Marvels is part of an ongoing franchise and supposed to set up 

    elements for the future. It is the more embarrassing  performance by far

    The Flash was advertised as one of the best superhero movies ever made, it brought back Michael Keaton's Batman, it had Ben Affleck's Batman, Supergirl, Superman, Aquaman, Wonder Woman and many other cameos, the movie was full of nostalgia and fan service, unless you think all those characters are smaller than The 3 Marvels, then no, The Flash is by far the most embarrassing failure, the MCU equivalent would if NWH or DS2 flopped

    Just now, John Marston said:

    Feige did not have complete creative control until Phase 4 I believe

    Ike Perlmutter was fired in 2015, Feige had full creative control for Phase 3, and Phase 4 was more successful than Phase 1 despite half the movies been released during a pandemic.

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