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January 12

59 minutes ago, Morieris said:

This show had a meme culture?

Last year, it was one of the procedural shows that went viral on Twitter/TikTok for their bizarre out of context clips, another was 9-1-1 Lonestar:

January 12

What ridiculous network drama will step up take its memeworthy place?

January 12

38 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

alsways "great" to see a movie that's gonna collapse (coughNightSwimcough) add more theaters while something that's doing well (ABY) losing 120.

Holy shit that TCP drop! You weren't exaggerating!

Poor Things is following The Favorite strategy to a T. Down to 500+ theaters and then expansion after the Oscar nominations. Since it kept 580 vs TF's 517 and TF expanded to 1.5K I assume PT's expansion will be slightly higher than that number maybe 1.6K-1.7K theaters. Probably depends on how crowded the month is.

It's probably theaters with 1-4 screens dropping Anyone But You, small places that cycle through releases very quickly.

Poor Things making about as much as The Favourite would be incredibly impressive. I keep waiting for Searchlight to drop a PVOD date to stop the party. It's one thing when a movie had 3-5 weeks in 3,000+ theaters first, and another when the "wide" release was barely half that size.

27 minutes ago, movies!movies! said:

The Color Purple is only holding onto locations where business is at least passable, and a lot of those -2,000 theaters haven't been adding much to the daily totals since New Year's.

January 12

Weekend theater counts. Mean Girls in the lead and BRUTAL cut for The Color Purple. On the bright side, the per theater average might improve?

January 11

34 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:

~17.3M by SUN? Still nearly 2 weeks until Oscar nominations

His box office coverage of Poor Things is so dramatically positive, I like to think it's a counter to Grace Randolph's intense outrage. Can't wait to scour Twitter the weekend it hits 2,000 theaters for all the indignant reactions. No walkouts at my screening, but shout out to the guy who gave the extended, "Wow!" at one of the sex scenes.

January 11

43 minutes ago, John Marston said:

As soon as this movie turned out to be a flop it felt like loads online turned against this movie and hell Cruise in general. Never seen anything like it.

Nolan was hated/called overrated online after Tenet, and Film Twitter blamed him for reopening movie theaters too soon and disregarding public safety. In the awards space, Bradley Cooper is currently is getting massively dunked on and internet diagnosed with personality disorders for making an Oscar bait movie. The worm usually turns and there is a recovery, especially for male celebrities, unless they've done something really cancel-worthy (and even then they can still have huge online fanbases).

With Cruise, it could go either way. He has a long filmography and fans might remember how much they've liked him before, but all ongoing movie stardom ends eventually, one way or another. Plus, his religious ties aren't without controversy. Maybe 2024 is the year Suri speaks out or the deal with Shelly Miscavige is uncovered, setting off an avalanche of negativity that sticks. But he seems well liked in Hollywood, which goes a long way in surviving there.

January 8

42 minutes ago, grim22 said:

The farther we get from that moment, the more it feels like that was it for Glenn Close, especially with the Sunset Blvd musical adaptation being shelved. If she actually manages to win an Oscar, it will be as an underdog for a nomination no one believes she will win for.

They're bringing a minimalist reinterpretation of Sunset Boulevard to Broadway that got rave reviews on the West End...starring Nicole Scherzinger. So even if Apple suddenly decided to fund $200 million at a movie adaptation it won't come with a time machine.

Maybe they were talking about something...more important:

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The Only Murders in the Building star, 31, was seen seemingly spilling some tea to her pals in a now-viral moment caught on camera, but "she was absolutely not referencing anything about Timothée or Kylie," says the source.

While rumors spread on social media that Jenner, 26, stopped her boyfriend, 28, from taking a photo with Gomez at the event, the source adds that Gomez "never even saw or spoke to them."

January 8

The Oscars are literally more than two months from now. La La Land won the most Golden Globes ever. Glenn Close's acceptance speech at the Globes cemented her Oscar win, they said.

I mean, I think the winners have strong chances with the Academy but so many sure things have fallen flat in the end.

Also I don't like the new trophy design, they look kind of dirty.

January 8

3 hours ago, poweranimals said:

Why would it? The movies don't appear remotely similar.

Both are movie musicals based on Broadway shows based on non-musical films based on books. Obviously they're very different stories but there's skepticism about the movie musical version though for dissimilar reasons. The last few Broadway musical adaptations haven't been box office successes ultimately (TCP, Dear Evan Hansen, West Side Story, In the Heights, Cats). The question is if Mean Girls will go the same way.

January 7

14 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

TCP isn't some under-marketed platform release movie that needs exposure tonight. It had a big marketing effort behind it, so people are exposed more than enough, they just don't care. Aoso, one of its stars is non-stop in the news trashing the production so that adds to exposure.

Now even Danielle Brooks is like, "We didn't have dressing rooms until Oprah intervened!" Sounds like a messy production, doesn't make fence sitters (if there still are any) inclined to support it.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/taraji-p-henson-and-danielle-brooks-deride-the-color-purple-set-conditions

January 7

ABC keeps showing ads for the Jonathan Majors interview during NFL. Twitter seems to think this means he'll get rehired for the MCU? I don't get why he'd go with a Disney-owned program or why they'd want to platform him at this time?

January 7

27 minutes ago, RichWS said:

American Fiction might have broken the record for amount of TV ads I've seen for a movie that isn't playing ANYWHERE near me. It's gotta be three weeks now. Having strong "this movie isn't real" syndrome kick in.

I think they are timing a wide(r) release to the Oscar nominations being announced, which would be rather old school and risky if the Academy snubs it. Outside of the Covid years I can't remember a TIFF winner that hadn't gotten to at least 600-800 theaters by the end of December.

American Fiction was surprisingly the Regal Mystery Movie/AMC Screen Unseen pick in late November, which is how I saw it. Maybe Amazon/MGM thinks that sort of counts towards a regular theatrical release?

January 7

2 hours ago, Becker said:

Has anybody here actually seen the movie? If so, Is it worth going to the theaters for it?

2 hours ago, Becker said:

it's a wholesome story, right? Haven't seen any trailers, so I plan to go in blind.

I guess it has wholesome moments in there, but the story rather infamously covers some pretty difficult topics, albeit presented here in a PG-13 rather than R rated way.

Seeing this within weeks of American Fiction was a trip. By the end of the movie, I understood where the promo was coming from by talking about the joyfulness, but it doesn't really cut the brutality leading up to that. Strong cast and musical numbers, though at times it felt like the connective tissue of the story was missing.

I feel like Taraji is really letting loose now that she doesn't seem to be getting nominated anywhere and the movie is flopping.

January 7

1 hour ago, M37 said:

I think on the optimistic side, the better comp is not Les Mis, which was primarily for adults, but rather Into the Woods, as a "darker" take/twist on a well-known family story.

But I do not have high hopes, because of the whole part 1/part 2 decision, but also the release date. Musicals have always done well through the Xmas holiday into January, and I'm not sure Thanksgiving into December offers that same kind of potential. Unless I'm missing some, the last two live action musicals released for TG were Burlesque (2010, $39M, #79 for year) and Rent (2005, $29M, #94) - basically matching West Side Story and Cats respectively (before adjusting for inflation/ATP)

I will never forget all the people at my Into the Woods screening who thought it was over after Act 1 and started getting up to leave lol. By the end they seemingly wished they had—a lot of grumbling out of the theater. It did not seem to be what people were expecting.

ITW is Stephen Sondheim. I was just watching a video yesterday about how none of his Broadway show runs have hit 1,000 performances and many of his musicals lost money. The musicals that were the least characteristic of his style tended to be most successful. Nevertheless he's an absolute legend with a sizable fanbase. But to compare, Wicked is up to about 7,800 shows on Broadway and counting (I know it might not translate to film success).

It's just January, there is plenty of time for a November release date to change, especially with the strike fallout.

1 hour ago, MovieMan89 said:

I think Ariana Grande buzz is about the best hope Wicked part 1 has right now. She is about to launch a new album era, so if that’s huge this year that could potentially give Wicked some momentum. But yeah, I think even fans are going to be like “wtf??” at the part 1 of it all

Hopefully Ariana's album changes the narrative for her from the SpongeBob love affair, though him being in Wicked too will bring it all back. This is not a Mr & Mrs Smith situation where the scandalous romance was a selling point. Maybe the media will play nice?

January 6

1 hour ago, filmlover said:

The Color Purple not even coming close to the $94M total of Good luck to the Wicked movies breaking the recent Broadway adaptation curse.

The Color Purple was a hit musical and all but Wicked has been playing on Broadway for 20 years straight, plus the long running international dates and tours. Wicked might flop onscreen, but it's more akin Les Misérables or Chicago in terms of potential fanbase than things like In the Heights or Dear Evan Hansen.

Wicked has a plot, so any movie adaptation is starting at an advantage over Cats. The Phantom of the Opera however was also a massive longrunning musical that didn't set the box office on fire, though its reviews were lackluster.

Wicked should just be one movie and the split into two films is worrying. What does Universal do if Part 1 isn't a hit?

January 6

2 hours ago, PlatnumRoyce said:

The BO response has been really interesting. Despite "objective" scores, we're seeing a straight up rejection of the film and I'm still trying to put together my specific takeaway.

Don't spend $90-100 million on a musical that needs multiple trigger warnings? At least not in this economy. I say that and then watch an R rated Joker 2 be a big hit.

Obviously The Color Purple is an entirely different situation from a comic book property. There was clearly a miscalculation in the level of audience interest; development for this version was first reported in 2018 and that was a lifetime ago for moviegoing habits and cultural trends. Back then there were more moviegoers overall, being an awards push with good reviews provided a bigger box office boost, and more of the audience probably took chances on things outside of their comfort zone.

With TCP in particular the divisiveness of the story seems more widespread than it was 5 years ago and audiences are more comfortable about voting with their wallets.

January 5

37 minutes ago, PlatnumRoyce said:

Why would it be obviously closer to Fences than Hairspray? TCP has a number of things working for it on paper. Even with penalties for adult movies post-covid this is just a bad number for the type of lavish tentpole film this is.

In terms of tone, The Color Purple is closer to Fences than Hairspray. Despite the musical numbers, there's still a lot of very heavy drama. Also, Fences was a major studio Oscar hopeful with a primarily Black cast and a Christmas Day release, so it wasn't unreasonable to use as a reference point for the box office.

There's frontloading and there frontloading, even posters who saw the signs didn't think it would be record setting.

January 5

23 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

Either that or they just wanted to cheat the system by competing in a less competitive category.

I definitely believe they make a different decision vs last year's field. I also think they were hoping to maximize their win possibilities, not just personally for Gerwig & Baumbach but on the studio level for WB: campaign Barbie in Original Screenplay because The Color Purple was always going for Adapted. Now a nomination for the latter seems unlikely, but that wouldn't have been known for sure last summer.

Oscar voters can be incredibly petty: based on prior Anonymous Ballots, I can picture someone not voting for the Barbie just because of the Original Screenplay attempt. But you might also get other voters who back it because they feel the Academy overstepped its bounds.

It would be wild if it missed the category completely.

January 5

33 minutes ago, filmlover said:

It's obviously getting delayed, along with Sony's My Ex-Friend's Wedding (which is still set for Mother's Day weekend but apparently hasn't even shot a frame of footage). My guess is, given the strategic release dates for both of these movies, they end up going to the same dates in 2025.

I know it can't make the release date, but it's just 5 weeks away and the studio hasn't officially said anything. It's odd for something this high profile (not Batman or anything but still based on a big bestseller).

January 5

On 1/4/2024 at 12:41 AM, Box Office Hit said:

This is still listed with a February 9, 2024 release date on IMDb.

January 5

1 hour ago, Rageofthegods said:

That Peloton instructor... never safe from the haters

They've already found the clip, I hope fans aren't too brutal to her.

Loving Nolan in acceptance speech mode.

January 4

4 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

OTOH, TCP is competing with another musical and it's a remake which turns off people who love the original or simply don't want to see the same story twice even with different cast and genre (drama vs musical). Why WB thought that releasing 2 such movies at the same time was a good idea iss beyond me casue even if you calculate different demos they do cross over to a large degree being the same genre. And since Wionka is much more holiday friendly, it siphoned the muscal demand.

The Color Purple's problem seems to be a lack of strong interest outside of one demo and even some Black audiences take issue with it. Wonka not being there probably wouldn't improve things much. One is a family movie and one really isn't. TCP is a heavy PG-13 and not in a "fantasy CGI violence" CBM sort of way but gritty real world trigger warning stuff. If you're a musical junkie who sees everything you're seeing both, but in general it's probably not a choice between one or the other.

Movie audiences seem to be rejecting the very idea of TCP as a musical, though it was a Broadway success before. Les Misérables was grim, but it was way more popular than TCP on stage, so it had a bigger fanbase to pull from for the movie. So did Phantom of the Opera but that didn't work out.

There probably is some audience fatigue in the "non-musical movie to Broadway show to movie musical of the Broadway show" pipeline. We will see if the new Mean Girls fares any better.

2 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said:

the comment feel so funny cuz everybody believe it's TENET.

Nolan doing Peleton is even more shocking to me than him being a Talladega Nights fan. Lol does he wear a suit?

January 4

2 hours ago, filmlover said:

Did Kerry Condon or Wyatt Russell even do any promo for this? M3GAN proved that "first movie on the first weekend of the year" horror movies don't have to suck (and can actually be pretty good) but clearly it was an exception.

To think a year ago Kerry was in the running for Best Supporting Actress...

January 4

23 minutes ago, dallas said:

Who do you think is taking the kids to the movies if the adults are at work?

The stay at home parents/schoolteacher moms and dads not back to work yet?

Apparently, Anyone But You is blowing up on TikTok.

January 4

There's just as much lore behind the Barbie brand as any iconic comic book hero. Even the basic idea of the main two characters—the perfect blonde Barbie with a Dream House, plus her accessory boyfriend Ken—was a creation of actual people who worked at Mattel, not to mention the other Barbieland characters, Kens, Allan, Midge, etc. Some of the backstories are straight from the toy box or ads.

Gerwig and Baumbach brought a lot of creativity to the project, but having 60+ years of the Barbie world's preexisting backstory (an invention of other people who were paid to come up with it) helped fill in many of the blanks. I doubt anyone was thinking about an Original Screenplay campaign when it was decided to give a "based on" credit to Barbie by Mattel, or they made the initial creator of Barbie a character in the movie. IMO they didn't try an Original Screenplay campaign out of principle but because Adapted is the tougher category this awards season (the reverse was true last year).

With a biopic, it can be argued that life isn't inherently a fictional creation the way that Barbie or Batman are, though I guess it can be. Maybe all biopics should go into an Adapted category (and some already do if they are based on a specific book, like Oppenheimer).

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