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Wow sucks to be Portugal then..Everything except BD2, which was record breaking.
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Busy again tonight here and the audience cheered and clapped at the end. The critics are (not for the first time) wrong. WOM is excellent.
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Nothing else managed to beat it, including that little Indy movie.. Avatar..And now a Dec OW record DOM is a big success for Hobbit ? When such a low standard....
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you have an agenda here, you want this to fail, so you are only see it that way. Not going to mention any markets its doing well in i guess. How about when it breaks the Dec OW record in the US?When ODs are terrible you know something is wrong.
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Reviews might be effecting the opening, but WOM is good, it will have legs. $1B is still in play. Remember people were disappointed by Avatars opening and it took most of the following week before they realised we were in for something special. This isnt going to do that, but it will have legs.
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Im not comparing to ROTK anyway, im comparing to FOTR, even a fairly hefty drop in admission will see it to 900M+ OS.
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Here, tonights shows in 2D and 3D are sold out (one screen has 6 seats left, not together in pairs though which hurts chance of selling them). Keep in mind that we only had one cinema showing 2D on 2 screen for ROTK, now we have 2 cinemas showing on 2 (2D/3D) and 3 screens (2D/3D/HFR).
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Not a chance. I guess we will just have to wait and see.Trolling ?I was just projecting following the trend.Lots box office geeks are already lowing Hobbit WW predictions to the 800M~900M range in Chinese forums.Not saying 1B is dead but the possiblity it misses it, or barely makes it, is there.
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I agree, this is virtually trolling right now. The idea its getting 1.7 or 2B is out now, but 'only' 1B is not happening either.Come on? Really? This needs to stop. Not even 2 days and already saying under 1B. Hold on. til at least after the OW.
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And lets not forget that the top critics, who are furthest away from GA reality, have this lower. Without them its 81%also, people need to stop assuming this will get bad WOM. Audience reception does not always equal critical reception (and even then critical reception is no where near as bad as being made out, 75% rating means majority postiive)
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How can it already have dropped, its only been out for a matter of hours! Its selling very well here, and it will have legs. Everyone is panicking because its not opening to TA levels. Its December.Really ? I heard it is already dropping from ROTK in France and Germany.
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Major decreases in Europe arent happening.
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Way too low, i think you location is blinding you to how popular it will be outside Asia. 600M is a lower split than any other fantasy and specifically LOTR. No way thats going to happen with 3D and expansion..My OS range: 600M~800M
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Asians arent really into olde world euro-fantasy are they? At least not as much as the west.
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Its December.. Its the season for legs and yes the DOM December OW record is going down. You are still pinning your hopes on bad WOM, which i just dont think it will get. I have seen it twice.
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Its around 75% which is positive and HFR is a minority presentation. Im probably the only person i know that even knows RT exists at all.
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With who? The GA hasnt seen it yet and they are paying. Critical reviews are meaningless. Poor reviews didnt stop TPM or the Twilight series getting good bank.900M is possible but on the high end. If the movie had great reception I would have agreed with you, but it does not.
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This is the problem you are pitching the DOM too low. Its NOT getting a bad reception because its not out yet. Critics reviews are fairly meaningless, not many people even read them. $300M is simply not going to happen, its going to be a lot more than that.And I am thinking around 300M DOM now, again ...
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Its called English irony, possibly to subtle for some of you to grasp i guess.
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So what you are saying is that the OS market will contract rather than expand for this over LOTR in terms of DOM/OS split, even though that hasnt happened for other franchises, whatever the quality of the movie.Thats the only way this is making less than 900M.
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Perfectly well. 900M is still very much possible. I still think its just in the low end of estimates.Are you feeling well?
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Yes.Challenge TA OS ? At this point ?
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I agree about Cruise. I want to hate him, but i just cant.
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Yes we will, this will seriously challenge TA OS even at the low end of estimates. TA and its genre is less popular overseas than LOTR relative to DOM gross, by a lot. This is getting 25/75 to 30/70 split, it only needs about 375M DOM to pass TA oversea even with the low end of the split. At 25/75 375M means 1.125B overseas. I think it will fall in the middle at 28/72, which is about right for a non US-centric blockbuster.
Weekend #s Hobbit 84.7 ROG 7.4 Linc 7.2 Sky 7.0 Pi 5.4 BD2 5.2 pg 90
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