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10 minutes ago, ListenHunnyUrOver said:
Time to admit that inflation and cost of living is killing theatrical?
Maybe but Furiosa didn’t have a prayer even in good times. It’s like people forgot that Fury Road wasn’t exactly a hit. To be honest, I’m surprised Furiosa was greenlit.
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Nobody should be surprised about these numbers. Everyone expected it, even the industry was bracing for a slow May. June/ July should be better. August likely won’t be great but there is potential for films like ‘It ends With Us’ and Trap being 100m + grossers.
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Better to wait for the weekend before writing Garfield off.
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14 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:
That May 31st weekend being a total dud writeoff in the middle of summer is just totally crazy, I know weekend after MD isn't the biggest but they couldn't even get a 15m opener off one of the streaming services for it? Malpractice. June 21st weekend is malpractice too tbh even if I'm personally excited for the releases. Can't throw away summer weekends like this.
This is honestly just crazy to me that couldn’t throw one of those previously steaming movies on those dates. For example, why did Beverly Hills Cop 4 (releasing July 3) go to Netflix? Eddie Murphy is a big star.
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30 minutes ago, Morieris said:
Has EVERY Universal movie so far this year gone onto PVOD less than a month after release?
No. They have an agreement with theaters of exclusive 17 day window for titles that open below 50m. Titles that open 50m or
more have 31 day exclusive theatrical window.
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21 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:
The problem is with that element it makes any sort of home/streaming release impractical. Any money it makes has to be in theaters
Possibly muted awards chances, not great box office chances, potential complications with streaming...someone's gotta be willing to just eat 100 mil to say they released Coppolas last movie
I think it’s more likely that Coppola caves and reduces his demands. He’s not getting 100m marketing budget for this.
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Considering the year that we’ve had I feel like a high teens opening is the best case scenario for this.
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1 hour ago, toutvabien said:
Challengers holding great. Too bad it's not gonna get to $50m tho
It still can get there or very close. It will be at 38m after this weekend.
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1 hour ago, Liiviig 1998 said:
70m int for challengers ?
It's at 23m os. Holdovers should bring it to 45-50m.
You expecting 20m+ from Japan
Why ?
Thinks it will squeak past 100m . Nothing more than that .
Probably not. I don’t think it will have significant numbers in Japan although it’s performing decently in South Korea. The bulk of its international business is from Europe. If it continues good legs especially in Italy and the UK, it may be able to cross 100m but we will have to wait and see.
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Fall Guy likely would have done about the same business, maybe worse, in March. It’s fine that Universal moved it to May but that put unrealistic expectations on it. Apes and Fall Guy swapping dates would have relieved some of that pressure but it is what it is.
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52 minutes ago, AniNate said:
Universal just threw an obscene amount of money at the Super Bowl this year. Even bought a spot for a fall movie.
I trust they have since learned their lesson that Taylor Swift can only do so much.It seems like it didn’t move the needle at all for Monkey Man or Fall Guy. I think Super Bowl spots works better for films that are releasing within a few weeks not several months away.
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I thought the Star Wars re-release would have slightly better numbers than that.
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17 minutes ago, JohnnyGossamer said:
I didn't know Winston Duke was in it until I saw. Probably on me but don't recall seeing him in much of the marketing.
Winston Duke wasn’t going to draw many people in regardless if he was promoted more or not. Ryan Gosling has always been more of a white women crush anyways. If they wanted to draw in more black women they should have cast someone like Channing Tatum.
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34 minutes ago, ListenHunnyUrOver said:
Lady Gaga is the only movie star Hollywood has birthed in years.
Lady Gaga was already a well known singer/celebrity prior to starring in movies, so not really. It’s not like they took her from obscurity. She’s a modern day Cher.
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2 hours ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:
I've said before, maybe in the Telegram chat, that the TikTok ban is going to be a devastating blow to modern exhibition. Let's face it, a lot of the cinematic phenomenons of the decade were largely fueled by TikTok hype, especially Minions 2, Barbie and Oppenheimer. The crossover between moviegoers today and the TikTok userbase is a lot bigger than many might think. The ban isn't going to happen for a few more months though, so exhibitors had better start thinking up some new solutions to keep the youth engaged.
The official tiktok ban won’t happen for awhile or may not happen at all because ByteDance is going to fight in courts which could take months or years.
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1 minute ago, AniNate said:
I forget where I saw the data but it didn't look like the PLF share for Challengers was that big compared to Civil War, and honestly it doesn't need it imo. I don't think its legs will be impacted as much.
Yeah I don’t think the drop will be that harsh. If this keeps up possibly sub 40% drop coming.
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23 minutes ago, emoviefan said:
I think we may be putting too much emphasis on Presales for Previews for this. Or maybe not.
I don’t think anyone is putting emphasis on them. This is the tracking thread afterall. The numbers are what they are.
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1 hour ago, MysteryMovieMogul said:
Oh, wow. The marketing team for The Fall Guy is desperate. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6aKE6ItV6O/?igsh=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==
That SNL skit has zero connection to the film. I feel like that has been an issue with the promo/marketing from the start. They seem confused about how to sell it.
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6 minutes ago, CJohn said:
May is looking like a theater wide shutdown bankrupcy level event. What a disaster in the making.
There just doesn’t look like anything strong in May. Apes franchise is well liked but it’s never been outrageously popular. Furiosa is also fairly niche. IF and Garfield might bring in some families but they are hurting each other by being one week apart.
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9 minutes ago, vale9001 said:
Saltburn was big. It has 205K votes on imdb, that's 1/3 of the votes of avatar 2 after 1 year and we know how that platform is stronger with movies for a male audience, than for a movie like saltburn.
Another sign of its cultural success is the song by Sophie Ellis Bextor used in the final of the movie (a 2004 old song) reached top 5 global on spotify. This happened also with a Natasha Beginfiled song from 2005 used on Anyone buy you. So a symbol of how the two movies were similar cultural phenomenons for a similar audience (anyone but you at the moments sits with 71K votes on imdd, 1/3 of saltburn)
the problem with saltburn is alwas the same. The movie reached 150K votes in the first month and then 50k in the others 2 cause movie are exclusively in streaming have success and then they kinda disappear...while anyone but you now cames on cable tv, home video, then free television next year etc... so in the long term will be more remembered and voted than saltburn.
Saltburn was released in theaters. It just didn’t make much money. (11.4m)
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10 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:
I mean, 15M for this movie is not particularly a bad opening. I would like 20M, but 15M was always the baseline expected number, so i don’t know why people are surprised.
It’s probably going to make 80-90M WW, it’s a decent result for a movie like this in 2024.
The only problem is that is costs 55M, if it costs 25M everyone would call it a success.
Obviously i know the budget is a problem and objectively will prevent the movie from being profitable (at least theatrically), don’t need anyone pointing that to me, but from what we know, it wasn’t supposed to cost this much and it did because it was shoot during Covid.
This is not the first and won’t be the last case of a movie doing relatively well for it’s genre but still not being profitable due to unexpected covid shooting. It’s not really fair to me to say that a movie like this should be doing 150-200M which is way higher than anyone expects for a semi arthouse sports drama simply because the budget blowed up in difficult times.
It’s fair to discuss the problems situations like this are still creating, how it’ll depend on PVOD and streaming, how it’s disappointing to have another bummer in an already weak year. But it’s important to keep reminding the context of those things to not be the person that says movies that historically doesn’t do 200M should be doing now.
Mte. It’s not like this film would magically make more money with a 20m budget. It’s making the money it was always going to make. So in that regard it’s a fine performance.
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Challengers is performing within expectations to me, anybody expecting some huge opening was delusional. It always felt like a good comparison to DWD. It seems like it’s going to make around 70m-80m WW which is right where I was predicting. Maybe it’ll have better legs than DWD but we’ll have to wait and see.
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20 minutes ago, Maggie said:
Pitt is still a draw. Bullet Train made 100M on his star power. I predict Wolfs will do 100M too
It’s more so the genre (action comedy) rather than just him though. He couldn’t stop Babylon from flopping. I don’t know what genre Wolfs is but it’ll probably struggle if it’s a straight up drama.
Weekday Numbers [05.28 - 05.30, 2024] | Thursday | 1.85M THE GARFIELD MOVIE | 1.73M FURIOSA: A MAD MAX SAGA
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80m? Not sure about that. Furiosa barely opened higher than Civil War. We’ll have to wait and see if anyone else wants to watch this. Most of the hardcore fans went to see it on the first weekend.