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  1. 7 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said:

     

    Are there? The whole reason E.T. works and has aged well is that it's simple and scaled-down. The boy and the alien forming a connection is literally the story, everything else is extraneous. Yeah it allows for that spectacular climax but on the whole it's gotta be the quietest movie to ever break box office records, which is its charm. Any pitch that goes "Here's E.T. back, and with more of everything!" is fundamentally unworkable. 

    I remember reading Spielberg's attempt at a sequel treatment, where the kids get kidnapped by evil aliens, and it's like...yeah. It just doesn't work with a continuation. The only way you could really do a sequel would probably be Elliott trying to remember his lost childhood or something, and even that feels kind of forced.

     

    Plus you know...nostalgia is evil and stuff.

  2. 1 minute ago, vafrow said:

     

    I fear we're entering the age where that gets solved via deaging tech.

     

    In fact, everything to do with legacy sequels is going to be entering the realm of technology capacity. 

     

    You can deage or create completely digital performances.

     

    Audiences don't seem that turned off from the idea (there was a big digitally re-created character from this summer that hasn't yielded much pushback). Studios are going to keep taking it further and further. 

    I dread the day when I have to take my kids to Toy Story 10 and it's reconstructed AI voices of Tom Hanks and Tim Allen as the voice actors. Nostalgia is evil.

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  3. 3 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

    I'm not sure how you can make The Bus That Couldn't Slow Down work again, I always thought it was kind of stupid they went with a boat for Speed 2 rather than a train. 

    Instead of a bomb on a bus, it's a bomb on a car. An Uber car. And you have like...5 Ubers with bombs on them. One car explodes, and then Keanu and Sandra have to save the other Uber drivers before it's too late, using the app to track down their locations and stuff.

     

    It's basically a Fast and Furious movie now, but who cares?

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  4. 24 minutes ago, YM! said:

    Honestly can see them doing legacy sequels to the legacy sequels. 

    Said my point better than I ever could lol. And yeah. I can already see it now.

     

    The year is 2065. There's only 1,000 theaters left in America. Half of the country is now underwater, in part because of President Elon Musk's failed policies 20 years earlier. That summer, Jurassic Galaxy: The Squeakquel and Fast and Furious 35, starring deepfake AI versions of Chris Pratt and Vin Diesel respectively, are duking it out at the box office. Whoever wins, we lose.

  5. 9 minutes ago, vafrow said:

    In light of the accomplishment of Beetlejuice Beetlejuice going to exceed the total gross of the first film in just the opening weekend, does anyone have a list of other cases where this occured?

     

    Only examples I can think of is Austin Powers, with International Man of Mystery being beat by The Spy Who Shagged Me.

     

    The other, surprisingly enough, is Blade Runner 2049 OW beating the original gross by $100K.

     

    Outside of some ones where the original was from before we had reliable box office reporting or where it's hard to truly call it a sequel (The Hustler, Fantasia, Mary Poppins), I can't think of other examples.

    Pitch Perfect 2. Got an extra 4 million more its opening weekend than the first film's original gross. Now that's a movie that really caught on like crazy after its theatrical release. I was 14 years old when the first movie came out, and I was in both the school choir and the school a cappella group, so my demographic and I were kind of ahead of the curve before everybody else.

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  6. 23 minutes ago, grim22 said:

    I wonder what will be the nostalgia franchises resurrected when the generational nostalgia hits the 2010s decade in 20 years time. Will be weird because not a lot of fresh franchises actually were made in movies in the 2010s

    They're just gonna keep on making new Star Wars, Jurassic Parks, Toy Stories, Harry Potters, and so on from now until the end of time. Kids do in fact watch these reboots like the adults do, and there are probably teens and young adults that are starting to feel nostalgic for the reboots they saw 10 years ago.

  7. 1 minute ago, John Marston said:

    Back to the Future sequel would be huge since it seems that series has crossed over to the following generations and is still referenced and talked about constantly. But it will never happen. Same with ET 2 (which I’m not sure has crossed over to the following generation)

    Back to the Future 4 sounds even worse. I mean all of these sequel ideas are terrible, but Michael J. Fox deserves his peace and quiet instead of being given some thankless "passing the torch" role.

  8. 11 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

    Among my generation, Elf and Home Alone both seem like very easy legacy sequels to make that would be a license to print 300m domestic between Thanksgiving and Christmas. Yes I know Home Alone has fake VHS sequels but I mean with Macauley and Kieran and hopefully not Donald Trump. Again, I hope none of these things happen and we continue to invest money in original movies and create new memories and franchises, but I'm genuinely mind blown we haven't gotten an Elf sequel yet. Original is thermonuclear levels of iconic among people my age and a few years younger, and it seems like a very easy sequel to get people on board for except apparently the director and star.

    Apparently both Will Ferrell and Jon Favreau did not get along with one another, which is why a sequel never got made. That's a little surprising. You can say what you will about Favreau's movies or whatever, but he seems like a cool, chill dude. I'm assuming Ferrell's a cool, chill dude, since I never heard anything bad about him.

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  9. 2 minutes ago, AniNate said:

    Hopefully that never happens because both Burton and Selick have gone on record saying they have no interest in a sequel

    Actually, last I checked, Henry Selick stated that he wants to do a sequel, but Burton's the one who is against it, and has basically vetoed any chance for that to ever happen. Though granted I think the big difference is that Henry probably wants that nostalgia money and Tim's too rich for that crap.

  10. 7 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

    A Nightmare Before Christmas sequel would open to 150m+. Not kidding. I'd say it was probably second behind the Lion King in terms of 90s kids favorite movies. To be clear, I hope this movie doesn't happen.

    Well picture this...how about...we remake it...in live-action...but Jack...is...well...I think you know who I want to be cast.

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  11. 14 minutes ago, JohnnyGossamer said:

    Given the extremely high percentage (73%) of females over 25, does that still point to it being all Ortega? I know I ton of women 30 to 45 years old simply love Beetlejuice because it's Beetlejuice. Ortega is absolutely a huge piece here but that is interesting. Or, do we thing the 73% of females over 25 are going mostly for Ortega?

    I thought Burton's stuff was mainly a guy/gender-neutral thing, but I was schooled recently that Burton's big with the ladies. Which in hindsight makes sense. Pretty much all my friends who have Nightmare Before Christmas as their whole personality are women.

  12. https://deadline.com/2024/09/box-office-beetlejuice-beetlejuice-1236079763/
     

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    UPDATED AFTER EXCLUSIVE: Warner Bros is officially reporting $13M for Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. High exits scores from fans last night at 4 1/2 stars on Comscore/Screen Engine’s PostTrak and 5 stars from both parents and kids under 12. Currently, the projection for the sequel is $90M — with potential for upside. 
     

    Females made a date with the Michael Keaton-Jenna Ortega-Winona Ryder sequel at 59% with 73% being over 25. Girls also outnumbered boys, 62% to 38% among the kids. A very strong turnout by Latino and Hispanic moviegoers last night at 36%. 

     

    RelishMix says that the social media reach for Beetlejuice Beetlejuice is 41% ahead of action comedy sci-fi genre norms with 508.6M followers across TikTok, Facebook, X, YouTube and Instagram combined.

     

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  13. 1 minute ago, crazymoviekid said:

    I find it funny Beetlejuice is considered a "cult classic" because it was still popular at the time.  It was the 10th highest grossing US movie in 1988.  I know ABC Family/Freeform's Halloween marathons helped boost the attention over the years, but it would be like if 'Us' or 'Sound of Freedom' or 'Interstellar' were deemed cult classic movies in 40 years if they grew in popularity.

    Apparently Titanic is a cult classic. People will throw that term around for anything. 

     

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  14. Quorum Updates

    Never Let Go T-15: 27.14% Awareness, 47.17% Interest

    White Bird T-29: 17.32% Awareness, 39.77% Interest

    Dog Man T-148: 13.5% Awareness, 32.17% Interest

    A Minecraft Movie T-211: 33.83% Awareness, 40% Interest

     

    Beetlejuice Beetlejuice T-1: 78.01% Awareness, 68.24% Interest

    Final Awareness: 100% chance of 90M, 83% chance of 100M, 33% chance of 200M

    Tentpole Awareness: 100% chance of 100M

    Final Interest: 100% chance of 30M, 89% chance of 70M, 78% chance of 100M, 11% chance of 200M

    Tentpole Interest: 100% chance of 30M, 50% chance of 100M

     

    The Front Room T-1: 24.77% Awareness, 40.2% Interest

    Final Awareness: 17% chance of 10M

    Horror Awareness: 30% chance of 10M

    Final Interest: 46% chance of 10M

    Horror Interest: 42% chance of 10M

     

    The Killer's Game T-8: 26.15% Awareness, 43.64% Interest

    Final Awareness: 17% chance of 10M

    Low Awareness: 13% chance of 10M

    Final Interest: 46% chance of 10M

    Low Interest: 33% chance of 10M

     

    Speak No Evil T-8: 36.89% Awareness, 48.97% Interest

    Final Awareness: 40% chance of 10M

    Horror Awareness: 41% chance of 10M

    Final Interest: 46% chance of 10M

    Horror Interest: 42% chance of 10M

     

    Saturday Night T-36: 18.02% Awareness, 43.59% Interest

    T-30 Awareness: 15% chance of 10M

    Low Awareness: 11% chance of 10M

    T-30 Interest: 57% chance of 10M

    Low Interest: 29% chance of 10M

     

    The Best Christmas Pageant Ever T-64: 12.73% Awareness, 34.81% Interest

    T-60 Awareness: 29% chance of 10M

    Low Awareness: 23% chance of 10M

    T-60 Interest: 33% chance of 10M

    Low Interest: 21% chance of 10M

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