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That’s weird. I thought Deadpool being so big would help trickle down the money to Reagan. 🤔
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https://deadline.com/2024/08/box-office-summer-labor-day-deadpool-wolverine-afraid-1236073792/
Quote1.) Deadpool & Wolverine (Dis) 3,630 (-210) theaters, Fri $3.6M (-26%), 3-day $15.7M (-14%) 4-day $19M-$20M, Total $603.3M-$604.3M/Wk 6
2.) Alien: Romulus (20th/Dis) 3,120 (-795) theaters, Fri $2.2M (-51%) 3-day $9M (-45%), 4-day $11.75M Total $91.1M/Wk 3
3.) It Ends With Us (Sony) 3,551 (-288) theaters, Fri $2.1M (-45%) 3-day $7.35M (-37%), 4-day $9.5M Total $135.7M/Wk 4
4.) Reagan (Showbiz) 2,754 theaters, Fri $2.6M 3-day $7.2M 4-day $9M/Wk 1
5.) Twisters (Uni/WB) 3,005 (-201) theaters, $1.8M (+6%) 3-day $6.6M (+8%), 4-day $8.1M Total $258.9M/Wk 7
6.) Blink Twice (AMZ MGM) 3,067 theaters, Fri $1.3M (-54%), 3-day $5.2M (-28%) 4-day $6.6M, Total $17.3M/Wk 2
7.) The Forge (Sony) 1,921 (+103) theaters, Fri $1.1M 3-day $4.5M (-32%), 4-day $6.2M, Total $15.9M/Wk 2
8.) Despicable Me 4 (Uni) 2,698 (+107) theaters, Fri $850K (-20%) 3-day $3.67M (-14%), 4-day $5M Total $355M/Wk 9
9.) Afraid (Sony) 3,003 theaters, Fri $1.1m 3-day $3.2M, 4-day $4M/Wk 1
9..) Coraline (Fath) 1,168 (-354) theaters, Fri $708K (-49%) 3-day $3M (-40%), 4-day $4M, Total $30.2M/Wk 3
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Great film. Love the whole nonlinear structure and how brutal it got at points.
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So...how have y'all been this past week? Enjoying yourselves?
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9 hours ago, AniNate said:
One other factor that I think has been mentioned before is because so many multiplexes did shutter in the wake of Covid, arthouse theaters have been finding it more lucrative to pick up those theaters' former clientele and exhibit mainstream movies more regularly, which limits the theaters that platform indie stuff can expand into.
I dunno what the solution is or if there even is one, just been hard to watch it all falter especially with the wide major releases coming out largely consisting of forgettable slop.
Will say that this is a very concerting and disheartening aspect that I do think is hurting indie releases. My local arthouse never was against showing wide releases, but they were almost always stuff like Orient Express or Downton Abbey or James Bond. And I mean these are wide releases that skew towards the olds and have a PBS/BBC style prestige, so I guess it isn’t the worst thing ever.
But post-COVID, they’ve been dipping way more into tentpoles or stuff that really skirts the line. For something like the Dune movies or even Barbie, you could maybe argue they are auteur, artistically-driven products, so…sure. And even Crawdads and It Ends With Us are based on popular books that likely have a lot of older/senior viewership.
But now my arthouse has shown stuff like The Batman and Twisters and Beetlejuice 2, and it’s like…y’all have no excuse other than you have nothing else to show. And that’s just bad for the smaller movies if even what should be a safe haven for them is rejecting their presence. I can already picture stuff like Conclave or Nightbitch getting rejected in favor of Gladiator 2 or Wicked or Mufasa, and like…I guess it would sell more tickets, but I still don’t like it.
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Quorum Updates
Never Let Go T-22: 26.81% Awareness, 48.45% Interest
Saturday Night T-43: 17.62% Awareness, 43.39% Interest
Red One T-78: 25.07% Awareness, 45.24% Interest
Gladiator II T-85: 42.83% Awareness, 48.15% Interest
1992 T-1: 27.75% Awareness, 45.41% Interest
Final Awareness: 18% chance of 10M
Low Awareness: 13% chance of 10M
Final Interest: 47% chance of 10M
Low Interest: 33% chance of 10M
Afraid T-1: 25.44% Awareness, 46% Interest
Final Awareness: 18% chance of 10M
Horror Awareness: 33% chance of 10M
Final Interest: 47% chance of 10M
Horror Interest: 43% chance of 10M
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice T-8: 72.75% Awareness, 67.15% Interest
Final Awareness: 100% chance of 90M, 83% chance of 100M, 33% chance of 200M
Tentpole Awareness: 100% chance of 100M
Final Interest: 100% chance of 30M, 89% chance of 70M, 78% chance of 100M, 11% chance of 200M
Tentpole Interest: 100% chance of 30M, 50% chance of 100M
The Front Room T-8: 27.1% Awareness, 44.11% Interest
Final Awareness: 18% chance of 10M
Horror Awareness: 33% chance of 10M
Final Interest: 47% chance of 10M
Horror Interest: 43% chance of 10M
White Bird T-36: 17.6% Awareness, 39% Interest
T-30 Awareness: 15% chance of 10M
Low Awareness: 11% chance of 10M
T-30 Interest: 30% chance of 10M
Low Interest: 24% chance of 10M
Here T-64: 15.12% Awareness, 40.64% Interest
T-60 Awareness: 29% chance of 10M
Medium Awareness: 40% chance of 10M
T-60 Interest: 61% chance of 10M
Medium Interest: 65% chance of 10M
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4 minutes ago, DAJK said:
@Eric Ripley has been cooking in this thread today.
I always cook. You should try my spaghetti carbonara. It's a banger!
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Will say I do think @Ryan C is onto something that maybe we need to retire the platform/limited theater rollout. Or at least deemphasize them apart from the occasional Licorice Pizza or Asteroid City. All the indie movies I listed were in at least 1,000 theaters on their opening weekend, which made it a lot easier for their target audiences to seek them out, and make it easier and faster for WOM to spread.
Plus these types of NY/LA releases really only worked when you could get some big PTAs you could make headlines over. And that was only possible thanks to specialty/boutique theaters like Arclight/Cinerama Dome. In 2018, something like The Fabelmans would have gotten the biggest auditorium, maybe even two auditoriums, in places like the Dome and other theaters specifically designed for arthouse fans/cinephiles. But in 2022, it had to play in some AMC/Regal locations, where Wakanda Forever had all the big auditoriums, and it had to also share space with stuff like Black Adam or Ticket to Paradise or The Menu. That's a problem. And nowadays, those giant 60K+ PTAs are more and more elusive post-COVID, unless you're an auteur darling like PTA or Yorgos or Wes Anderson. And even then, if Spielberg can only barely get to 40K, then what does that mean for newcomers who don't have such luxuries or popularity?
I doubt Sing Sing or Didi would have been Big Sick-style winners, but maybe just having them open in 1,800 theaters would have helped them get at least close enough to the 10M threshold.
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It's not all bad indie/specialty-wise. Thelma and Late Night with the Devil are the biggest hits for their respective studios in ages. Longlegs has become the biggest hit for Neon period. Big enough where it has crossed over to the mainstream, and that's not even including Immaculate making a big chunk of cash. And if you want to be that guy, you can argue Civil War was set up and financed like an indie production, even if it costs a pretty penny more than all the other movies listed.
I'm still very much in the "nostalgic toy commercials are the only things making money" mindset, but there have been minor improvements, and it could have been much, much, much worse. Like two years ago, I was scared Focus/Searchlight were going to be streaming content farms for all eternity.
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Genuinely baffling they named one of the characters Dr. Loomis. Like how lazy do you have to be to literally rip off the name of a character from a totally different movie franchise and think people won't notice?
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https://deadline.com/2024/08/jurassic-world-film-unveils-title-first-look-photos-1236072709/
QuoteStarring Scarlett Johansson, Jonathan Bailey and Mahershala Ali, Jurassic World Rebirth sees an intrepid team racing to secure DNA samples from the three most colossal creatures across land, sea and air. Five years after the events of Jurassic World Dominion, the planet’s ecology has proven largely inhospitable to dinosaurs. Those remaining exist in isolated equatorial environments with climates resembling the one in which they once thrived. The three most colossal creatures within that tropical biosphere hold the key to a drug that will bring miraculous life-saving benefits to humankind.
Johansson plays Zora Bennett, a skilled covert operations expert contracted to lead a team on a top-secret mission to secure genetic material from the world’s three most massive dinosaurs. When Zora’s operation intersects with a civilian family whose boating expedition was capsized by marauding aquatic dinos, they all find themselves stranded on an island where they come face-to-face with a sinister, shocking discovery that’s been hidden from the world for decades.
Bailey plays paleontologist Dr. Henry Loomis, with Ali as Zora’s most trusted team leader, Duncan Kincaid. Others in the cast include Rupert Friend as Big Pharma representative Martin Krebs and Manuel Garcia-Rulfo as Reuben Delgado, the father of the shipwrecked civilian family.
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8 minutes ago, ddddeeee said:
Beetlejuice is a weird one in that it was a big hit but then went on to be a huge cult hit. Normally those things would contradict each other, but I dunno any other way to describe it. People continued to find it for years and years to come. It's always being rereleased and it's constantly been one of the top selling discs. There were a few months last year in which the only movie older than Beetlejuice that was selling more than it was Top Gun.
I agree that Wednesday and Jenna are a massive draw here, but og is huge in a way that I don't think people appreciate. My mum and dad are going to see this, and both go to the cinema like once every five years.
Yeah, it’s kind of like Nightmare Before Christmas, albeit with nowhere near as much merchandise. You could probably point to one or two other Burton or Burton-adjacent movies with that kind of paradox.
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Quorum Updates
Bagman T-23: 18.33% Awareness, 42.61% Interest
Transformers One T-23: 41.45% Awareness, 48.89% Interest
Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim T-107: 20.22% Awareness, 43.94% Interest
A Complete Unknown T-119: 17.33% Awareness, 37.33% Interest
The Fire Inside T-119: 10.4% Awareness, 34.04% Interest
1992 T-2: 26.11% Awareness, 44.78% Interest
Final Awareness: 18% chance of 10M
Low Awareness: 13% chance of 10M
Final Interest: 47% chance of 10M
Low Interest: 33% chance of 10M
Afraid T-2: 24.78% Awareness, 46.44% Interest
Final Awareness: 18% chance of 10M
Horror Awareness: 33% chance of 10M
Final Interest: 47% chance of 10M
Horror Interest: 43% chance of 10M
The Wild Robot T-30: 27.34% Awareness, 40.54% Interest
T-30 Awareness: 53% chance of 10M, 17% chance of 20M
Animation/Family Awareness: 67% chance of 10M, 33% chance of 20M
T-30 Interest: 58% chance of 10M, 35% chance of 10M, 20% chance of 30M
Animation/Family Interest: 87% chance of 10M, 75% chance of 20M, 37% chance of 30M
Joker: Folie a Deux T-37: 64.11% Awareness, 64.22% Interest
T-30 Awareness: 100% chance of 50M, 86% chance of 90M, 71% chance of 100M, 14% chance of 200M
Tentpole Awareness: 100% chance of 50M, 67% chance of 100M
T-30 Interest: 100% chance of 50M, 86% chance of 70M, 71% chance of 100M, 14% chance of 200M
Tentpole Interest: 100% chance of 100M
Smile 2 T-51: 38.19% Awareness, 47.08% Interest
T-60 Awareness: 89% chance of 10M, 71% chance of 20M, 46% chance of 30M
Horror Awareness: 100% chance of 10M, 71% chance of 20M, 43% chance of 30M
T-60 Interest: 61% chance of 10M, 34% chance of 20M, 19% chance of 30M
Horror Interest: 69% chance of 10M, 34% chance of 20M, 14% chance of 30M
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3 minutes ago, YM! said:
Yes, BJ had nostalgia but it was also a flop at the box office and lived as a cult classic.
Beetlejuice ranked in the domestic top 10 for 1988. It made almost five times its budget. It was not, nor has it ever been a flop or cult hit.
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Labor Day Weekend Thread | Reagan 525K previews, AfrAId 400K
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I made a top 10 for the summer prediction earlier this year, so might as well look back on it and laugh.
The actual top 10 meanwhile is probably:
I was going super conservative because it really seemed like things were going to be bleak and embarrassing for the rest of the year, especially since it seemed like Disney movies and superhero stuff seemed like it would be permanently depressed and down. But alas, I should have never, ever in a million years doubted Mickey's Law. For non-Disney studios, anything that can go wrong will go wrong. Disney movies can bomb...but not because of the law. Not making that mistake again.
And all told, despite the law being the law, it was definitely a decent summer all things considered. Still got concerning spots in our NTC hellscape...but it could be worse I suppose.