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  1. Looks like TS4’s BO is going to be the animated equivalent of Age of Ultron. Money other movies could only dream of making, yet still a disappointment relative to expectations and putting the word “fatigue” on people’s lips.

     

    Also, it’s amusing that it’s falling right back in line with what people around here were predicting before the initial presales and the “Holy shit, this movie is actually GOOD?!” reactions.

  2. 20 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

    Yes he's doing the sequel and Waititi was all for Thor 4 but that's not happening right now

    Waititi had an idea. That’s not the same as “all for ASAP.” If you were a director who didn’t normally do this stuff, you’d want to get back to your own thing or do something else you were interested in and not be pigeonholed too. Waititi parlaying the success of Ragnarok into a dark comedy about Hitler and becoming the first person to make me not terrified about American live-action Akira is the kind of thing you should be able to do once you get a mainstream success.

     

    Not everyone is such a geek that they’re perfectly happy with only working on superhero-related movies for over a decade, like James Gunn.

  3. I get that you’re half-joking, but we’re all bipolar about Chinese taste in movies. Bayformers or Venom do well, they have worse taste than we do. If (Star Wars movie Internet doesn’t like) or Aladdin bombs, or Coco does better than in the States, suddenly we wish our fellow audiences had as good taste as they do. It’s like how Americans still often consider France the epitome of Western cinema, but plenty of French moviegoers also love the Minions.

     

    Every country, every culture, both enjoys some great movies and some absolute trash. They have their own reasons for wanting or not wanting to see a given movie. It doesn’t always speak to a monocultural sensibility or taste in cinema.

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  4. 3 hours ago, BoxOfficeZ said:

    Well, capitalism means film companies want to chase stuff that'll give them guaranteed profits (they might go risky if they're sure a big name like Nolan would guarantee some success).

    This is an important thing, though I’m going to shift focus from directors. People bag on Scott Mendelson (and I fully understand why), but one of the things he often says that makes sense is that original films have declined in no small part because people don’t go to movies to see a particular actor/actress. Back then, the stars were the franchises (and the occasional director like Spielberg). 

     

    Yes, you got some big expensive “original” movies that banked on the concept above all. Keanu Reeves wasn’t an instant-recall actor when Speed came out (and actually, Speed only cost $28 million anyway, it was not a mega-budget spectacle). ID4 was sold more on the huge destruction than Will Smith who was still mostly associated with TV. And The Mummy (which was so loose a remake of so old a movie it might as well have been original) was not sold on Brendan Fraser. (The Matrix was maybe 50/50, 70/30 at worst, sold on mystery and how-did-they-do-that effects, Keanu was in a sort of slump but people still knew who he was so he had to have been somewhat of a draw.)

     

    But would anybody have shown up for The Fifth Element without Bruce Willis front and center? Would as many have decided to see Armageddon without Willis? Demolition Man without Stallone and Snipes? True Lies without Arnold? Even though it wasn’t a success, does Waterworld even get made without Kevin Costner riding the success of Dances with Wolves and Robin Hood? And while Titanic absolutely sold itself on concept, the fact that Leo was already a teen heartthrob off of Baz Luhrmann’s Romeo+Juliet definitely played to its favor in reeling in teen girls who otherwise might not sit through a 3-hour historical melodrama.

     

    Nobody starring in the few expensive originals we get, successful or not, would draw people just by putting their name and face front and center on the poster. It’s sad but it’s true.

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  5. 5 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said:

    Hollywood put itself into that corner. Nothing actually stops them from creating, promoting and encouraging the audience to be interested in something original and exciting, except for their own fear of not making as much money doing that. 

    With how much movies cost to make these days, it’s also a fear of losing money.

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  6. Those shorts show beyond a doubt that Mickey Mouse can be more than just the bland corporate icon everyone pigeonholes him as.

     

    I swear, they need to eventually make that Mickey-and-friends adventure that Burny Mattinson has been trying to get made for literal decades, and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Mickey does not have to be a bland, perpetually cheerful cipher.

     

    In the cartoons I used to watch as a kid, he could be a mischief maker, or a goofball, or threaten Donald Duck at gunpoint not to bail out on his symphony. Those new shorts do a great job at giving Mickey back some actual character.

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  7. 3 minutes ago, TMP said:

    I'm so confused why it has a prime mid-July release date all to itself. That's the date WB gave the final Potter/TDK/TDKR/Inception. 

    Maybe WB believes the Internet memes and social media obsession with the movie are a sign of real audience nostalgia, and that this stands to make major bank. I’d say they could be in for a rude awakening.

  8. I feel like original blockbusters aren’t happening in part because budgets have gotten so big, and risks have to be mitigated. When those big original tentpoles were successful, budgets were at biggest in the low 100 millions. The most expensive originals are Avatar, Titanic and 2012. Wikipedia’s list of most expensive movies contains no other originals. Even adjusted for inflation, among originals only Waterworld and Armageddon approach the level of modern stuff.

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  9. 8 minutes ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:

    There’s an untitled Pixar film as well as Tenet.

    I’m incredibly curious what that Pixar movie is. It’s not much more than a year out and we don’t know anything. Is that a sign that it’s not coming out on that date? I’ve never seen a film be kept completely secret so close to release - certainly not a major Disney film.

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