Xavier
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On 5/12/2022 at 2:40 AM, Ozymandias said:
Lol they're gonna make her the killer aren't they?
Either way, noice. She was so sexy as the sassy naughty bad girl with that Bridget Nielsen hairstyle in Scream 4, which imo is still quite easily the 2nd best in the series.
How was she ''bad''?
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I think the MCU has set itself up where everything under a billion is viewed like a disappointment but, apart from that, it’s the critical/audience reception that I find troubling. That’s why I excluded Shang Chi from my initial post.
Black Widow was too little, too late, Eternals was a borefest and MoM did most definitely NOT set the world on fire, as expected after NWH (and now that the dust has settled, I don’t think NWH will be regarded as a very good film either). Maybe the MCU does not get an easy pass from critics anymore.I agree though that even with the good will built from previous entries, the introduction of new characters would always make things more challenging.
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2 hours ago, IceFire9yt said:
You can also just compare it to 2017, which by all accounts was a banner year for Marvel. MoM will outgross all of Marvel's catalog that year, domestically and worldwide, even without many markets. Domestically, it'll increase over 70% from the previous installment, which is more than any MCU followup save for No Way Home. In terms of MCU 2nd movies in a series, its #2 domestic (behind AoU) and #3 worldwide (also behind FFH). If you went a year or two back and gave us this movie's final totals, no one would call it a disappointment.
The second way of looking at it is that reception was mixed and it obviously had a bad multi. So yeah, fair to say it fell short of what it could have potentially done. In that way it is a disappointment, a missed opportunity. Its a disappointment in comparison to what it could have done, not in comparison to other movies.
But, alternatively, if you want to look at it as a sign of interest in the MCU, MoM's performance is definitely a show of strength.
So how many middling movies/performances would you say will take for the MCU to have a real problem? Because I think Eternals, Black Widow and the mixed bag MCU D+ shows have paved the way.
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4 hours ago, titanic2187 said:
TGM showcase a reminder that why leg matters, and we should all preserve a leggy run to protect a true word-of-mouth driven movie, instead of letting every movie go fast burn like in Russia, India and many parts of Asia.
Speaking of leg, I am still baffled by how DS2 missed out $1bn worldwide when its opening was already as huge as $450m. Personally I love the movie and don't understand the hate.
It was convoluted, disjointed, too long and, again for a Marvel film, it was much ado about nothing. Nothing of consequence happened: in the multiverse setting, NOTHING is of consequence. Every death or serious development has no weight because you might live or get what you want in another universe. Completely forgettable.
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Isn’t it a bad sign that the review embargo for JWD lifts the day before release? TGM built excitement (also) through the early reviews. This movie is indeed a lightning in a bottle.
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4 minutes ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:
As incredible as Top Gun 2's performance is, it's still an exception rather than the rule. I also imagine Doctor Strange 2 being as divisive as it was helped this movie akin to Jumanji vs. The Last Jedi.
Regardless, this year has been surprisingly encouraging for movies that can't rely on the damn near invincible Marvel brand. Scream 5, Uncharted, The Batman, Sonic 2 etc. We certainly won't be getting a repeat of summer 2019 anytime soon. At least until Marvel starts building to a Secret Wars movie.
That situation will only result in Feige bringing back RDJ and Chris Evans that much sooner. It’s evident people don’t care as much for Phase 4.
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Haven’t been excited to follow a box office ran in a long time. I hope it wins the summer crown, although the year crown will hopefully go to Avatar 2.
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It is a juggernaut, a mighty impressive run. Who would have thought?
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5 minutes ago, Brandon Gray said:
Nice...
So Top Gun takes the "4-day"
But Pirates keeps the "3-day"
(with previews 128.0 vs. 126.7 OR without previews 114.7 vs 107.4)
But the MDW is important for the 4-day performance. If not, it’s just another weekend but with an inflated Sunday.
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So is 156mil the floor now depending on Monday?
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I’m hoping on a wild overperformance of TG2 on Sunday and Monday. Like, over 155mil 4-day.
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1 hour ago, Brainbug the Dinosaur said:
Wait ... Disney arent the good guys?
As we say in my country, I’m falling from the clouds in shock.
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Not at the slightest surprised by the A+ Cinemascore, very well deserved. There is a particular prolonged scene where Cruise is piloting and turning the plane left and right, bumping on each side wall of the cockpit and you just know they drag the scene to show you that yes, it is indeed happening. It was exhilarating.
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It’s a travesty that comic book movie actors like RDJ and Benedict Whatshisface and the like, who worth nothing outside of the MCU, are up there on the list of best grossing actors ever and Maverick is so down the list. The fact that TC’s highest grossing movie is War of the Worlds at 234 million domestic is unfairness personified.
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9 minutes ago, Maggie said:
He's joking. lol
EVERY TIME? 🤷🏻♂️
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27 minutes ago, CJohn said:
Not even 20M in the 3 days total? Damn.
I admit to only frequent these halls when there’s a movie I care for, and somehow you are always the one to bring doom and gloom to the proceedings. Why do you do that?
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Just saw it and loved. Great fun, dogfights, camaraderie. A sure win.
Why are some people satisfied with predicting doom? What kind of sick satisfaction they derive from it?
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I won't support Aquaman 2 or any movie with her in it. Vote with your money, people.
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2 hours ago, WeThrones said:
On the one hand I am sad to see this franchise in this state, on the other - we will be free from David Yates finally
YES. He needs to go. Enough already with the murky colors and underwhelming fight sequences.
Just bring back Cuaron, although of course he would never come back to the WW. -
Not really interested in a Wizarding World where Rowling doesn't have total control over the stories. This is not a comic book movie situation.
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As expected, RT score is in free fall because of the hate bandwagon effect. They have just decided to hate on this movie. It should have been in the 70s. I don't believe WW box office will exceed 400 million.. Really too bad.
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I just saw it. Miles better than CoG and full of heart but inherent problems persist.
The good:
-Law as Dumbledore, obviously, although a little too "still very smitten", after so many years on the fallout with Grindelwald. Like, get a life man, there are more fish in the pond.
- Jacob, and the movie plays him up immensely. If he wasn't a fan favorite, there's no way he would be such a big part of this story.
- the story is more streamlined and there are less (also still present) info dumps.
- the titular beasts
- the ending is great
The bad:
- while I enjoy being in the world, the movie is still overlong and very talky.
- action scenes are good but Yates has a tendency to make them too short. Hard to get excited like that.
- the Credence plotline is easily the worst, a frustrating cop out and a semi-retcon of the CoG finale. Grindelwald's revelation seems so random now.
- too little Queenie
- Newt as a protagonist never worked for me, he is just too quirky to be able to identify with.
The movie knows fully well chances are this is the last installment so it takes its time with the ending, stretching it out and tying loose ends (Tina's tiny appearance does have emotional weight). And, judging from the mini duel between Dumbledore and Grindelwald, it's a pitty we probably won't see the main event on film.
7,5/10
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Weekend Thread (6/3-5) | Top Gun 2 drops 29% for 90M. The smallest second weekend drop ever for a 100M+ opener!
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I’m sorry, but to put things into perspective and take it from someone who only visits this forum to follow and comment on the box office numbers of a movie I care about: It’s a little stupid to accuse someone of…”losses” for the millions of dollars a movie does or does not make. You are free to feel fulfilled if you predict correctly, but to be bitter towards others for money a third party makes, is actually sad.