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3 minutes ago, cannastop said:
last year and 2022 were also bum years. Complaints about ticket prices have been around for a long time, even in 2019, that box office free for all year.
That's why it doesn't explain what's happening this year, ticket prices were high for a while.
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46 minutes ago, dallas said:
I'm sick of this "audiences don't care" narrative. They DO care, it's just moviegoing is too expensive nowadays. That's why every year there are a few HUGE hits and the rest ranges from good to meh.
It's just an excuse, it doesn't explain most movies underperfoming or flopping this year including once reliable genres, moviegoing wasn't much cheaper last year or in 2022. Sometimes it's just simple "they don't care anymore", there's no deeper explanation.
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41 minutes ago, Speedorito said:
Honestly, I feel like right before Furiosa would’ve been the perfect time to drop the trailer. Just place it in front of a critically-acclaimed R-rated blockbuster. Or at least Bad Boys 4. Especially since they showed footage at CinemaCon. Moana 2 is a mini-series that was turned into a film and even that has a trailer out for its November release.
I mean A Quiet Place is PG-13? Doesn't make much sense to drop it in front of PG-13 movie, even if hard PG-13. They'll likely release the trailer this month because it's definitely time to finally launch first promo, no reason to market it much later unless it's Passengers or Aquaman 2 type of movie when studio has no confidence in it and just drags marketing campaign start as close to its release date as they can.
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It's kind of funny they showed character's death 2 or 3 times in every detail. Also male cast isn't even trying, did they find those dudes on the street? Spaeny and Merced do all the heavy lifting.
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On 5/31/2024 at 11:10 PM, Maggie said:
WTF not even 500k views for the trailer on Sony's youtube channel. But i think i read they reuploaded the trailer. I hope i read that right cos the views are extremely low.
That's because those fools reuploaded the trailer for no reason.
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2 hours ago, cinema pal said:
Fede said something about avoiding spoilers, but here we are, Asian girl kissing a facehugger on the poster.
Yeah, I know, it's in the teaser, but I think that was a mistake, there's only six charecters. Can we have some intrigue?
(Not watching trailer tomorrow, I learned my lesson with Prometheus and Covenant)
There's no intrigue, we all know how it ends:
Ripley clone and good android survive, and fly off into the sunset, everyone else dies, good guys saved the day once more until next sequel.
57 minutes ago, Elessar said:Nobody notices such things beyond the crazies that devour every snippet of info. Besides, who says she is the only bald character? Is that set in stone? Maybe somebody starts out with longer hair and gets a buzzcut later, just to throw you off. Pal!
The cast is too small to reach like this. They already showed who dies in the very first teaser.
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55 minutes ago, Porthos said:
Pointing out that films with reshoots, extensive or otherwise, aren't always successful simply proves Sturgeon was on to something.
80% of movies with massive reshoots aren't successful, "aren't always" is to say the least.
56 minutes ago, Porthos said:What I did imply, and now outright will state is: THEY SAY NEARLY NOTHING ABOUT THE *FINISHED* QUALITY OF A FILM.
They say the movie doesn't work in studio's mind, extensive reshoots and normal reshoots/touch ups are not the same thing, what happend to, let's say, Justice League weren't normal reshoots, extensive reshoots happen when the movie tests poorly.
58 minutes ago, Porthos said:But what I *will* push back on, and quite strongly, is the idea that reshoots, again extensive or otherwise, are a sign that something WILL be bad,
That is utter bullshit, I am not at all afraid to say it. Complete and utter horseshit, actually.
If there is any sort of correlation between "extensive reshoots" and "poor film", I'd be more than a little surprised to see if it was that much stronger (or weaker for that matter) than an overall correlation between films being good or bad that didn't have more than industry standard additional photography.
It's not 100% guarantee, but numbers are numbers, in most cases massives reshoots don't save the movie, but make it even worse, those reshoots are often done with poor intentions. For every film with extensive reshoots that turned out to be good I can give you at least 5 where it made things worse. And again, I don't mean "normal reshoots", I mean reshoots which completely change the movie.
2 hours ago, vale9001 said:reshots are a good sign. Hollywood makes them since ever, most Hitchcock movies had reshots. You test movies and then you work again on them to make things better seeing the audience reaction. What's wrong? It's like the work of an editor for a book.
As I said, I don't mean any reshoots, I mean specifically very extensive reshoots that change the movie completely. The problem is when reshoots made the movie worse and it tests worse, they don't reverse it to better cuts, but lock the last one and call it a day.
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7 minutes ago, cinema pal said:
No
Scoopers said January-May reshoots window, but it never happened.
So they changed their mind and rewrote planned reshoots? That's new.
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4 hours ago, Porthos said:
It is the Year 2024 and some people STILL think reshoots, extensive or otherwise, are a *BAD* thing.
Like, it boggles the mind.
Why? Extensive reshoots are never a good sign and there are more examples when extensive reshoots made the movie worse, not better. For every Fury Road or Rogue One we have Justice League, Rollerball, Gigli, Dark Phoenix, Suicide Squad etc.
11 hours ago, SpiderByte said:All the endless talk here of months of reshoots, of the entire movie being scrapped and redone, people saying "why are they showing footage at Cinemacon since they're obviously cutting it all", and the actual amount of resboots is:
Three weeks. And it's mostly action scenes.
Didn't it already have massive reshoots? So it's not 3 weeks, but more like months overall and multiple rounds of them.
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I'm the biggest hater of Jurassic World trilogy and even I want to have just a bit faith in this project after they did such a massive clean up after previous mess.
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Those fools delisted and reuploaded the trailer for whatever reason, killing its momentum.
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Will Bad Boys cross 60 mln OW?
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Cruise just decided to rob Paramount before their inevitable demise, just like sir Ridley with Gladiator 2, they know very well nobody's gonna be punished when those flops come out because people who were responsible for greenlighting those will be long gone, driving off into the sunset with a bag full of cash.
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38 minutes ago, excel1 said:
- the just too "Hollywood": the casts - in particular Brad Pitt, Diane Kruger in TROY and Josh Hartnett and Jamie King in Pearl, are just too dolled up, too attractive, and just take the average viewer out of the film.
What? Helen of Troy is supposed to be very beautiful, "the most beautiful woman in the world" in fact, who else did you expect, some ugly or below average looking chick?
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1 hour ago, John Marston said:
Shouldn’t have spent Marvel money then
Glorious spin, now that changes everything!
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People will blame marketing or remakes and call it a day.
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A Quiet Place looks appealing and big scale, I think it'll do well.
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Am I the only who didn't enjoy Chapter 3 very much? Most of the chase felt like it was shot against green screen with everything looking super fake and CGId, especially fire. Also that final climactic moment between Furiosa and Dementus is overlong and that tree conclusion is just ridiculous even in the context of the universe.
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3 minutes ago, reddevil19 said:
where Theron post Fury Road is what people wanted
People should be careful what they wish for since Miller considered to make Furiosa an evil tyrant like Immortan Joe in a potential follow up to Fury Road because it makes sense in his perception, but I don't think that's something people would want to see. Fury Road clearly ended on a note where there's no reason to come back to the character, her arc is finished, all Miller had to do is make another Mad Max with Hardy, but it's not happening after this.
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12 minutes ago, Squire said:
So, with Furiosa flopping, how is it that Dune Part 2 succeeded where Furiosa failed?
Perhaps Dune delivered a unique theatrical experience whereas Furiosa was just giving more of the same (in terms of action set pieces), but not as good as Fury Road?
Mad Max more niche? More weird?
Better Dune marketing campaign?
Dune Part 2 is a direct sequel with the same cast, more popular actors, better trailers and marketing. It's many things. Max Max being more niche plays a role here too, Fury Road barely broke even despite its reception.
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13 hours ago, Speedorito said:
Maybe some levity for this thread. I just posted this in the Classic Conversation thread, but what do people think of this list?
Alphabetical order: Austin Butler, Timothée Chalamet, Jacob Elordi, Paul Mescal, Jenna Ortega, Glen Powell, Florence Pugh, Sydney Sweeney, Anya Taylor-Joy, Zendaya
I think Timothee Chalamet and Zendaya shouldn’t be here, they’re definitely not “new.” They’ve consistently had critical and commercial success since around 2017.
35 year old Glen Powell being a new “young” star is…a choice (I doubt a woman would even be considered for this list if her age didn’t begin with number less than 3).
Paul Mescal feels like he’s in the same category as Saoirse Ronan: indie darling but with no commercial success to back them. Putting him here before Gladiator II seems presumptuous. Ronan also tried the commercial route.
I like Jenna Ortega but putting her on here seems early. Wednesday was huge though and I think she has potential.
Jacob Elordi, a supporting actor in Saltburn, is on the list, but not Barry Keoghan, the lead?
Tom Holland needs better projects
Fun stats: 2 MCU actors, 5 Dune actors, 3 Euphoria actors.
Timothee is the most proven one for sure, everyone else is under big question mark. I kinda root for Powell because he's likable and has movie star charisma, he just needs right projects. Austin Butler is great too.
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48 minutes ago, Hatebox said:
Has Hemsworth had a single non MCU hit?
Extraction 1-2, Netflix doesn't have flops, they told me so.
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2 hours ago, Parasite said:
I mean, although Dune Part One does feel like half of a film, at least there is character development within the film and it has a clear ending.
Really? It literally ended in the most abrupt way possible in the middle of the story, as if theater projector suddenly broke.
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