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This is amazing. IW was fun because there was some surprise and suspense versus TFA.
This started out enormously likely to smash IW... and is still turning in an even more shocking number than I can remember.
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4 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:
There is currently nothing huge that will be culminating anytime soon or any huge dormant franchise that could generate so much buzz by coming back. I guess there’s always Potter 8, but that franchise has always had such a definitive ceiling. Think it will have to be the culmination of a new franchise that hasn’t hit yet or probably the next big MCU culmination. Which would easily be another decade. And also hard to say with much certainty that this next era would even be nearly as popular.
Could be as soon as 2024 or 2025 in my mind.
Avatar 2 will not do it. But if let’s say Avatar 2 and 3 deliver the goods, I don’t think it’s off the table for Avatar 4 or 5. Especially if the narrative arc builds and culminates (versus being four standalone stories in the Avatar world).
Unlikely? Definitely. Impossible? I don’t think so.
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8 minutes ago, MCKillswitch123 said:
I would not call any of them a lock apart from Avengers and The Lion King. Star Wars, after what happened to The Last Jedi (which still made 1.3 billion, yeah, but it dropped enormously from The Force Awakens) and the complete rejection of Solo, is no longer the absolute box office immunity we thought it to be. And Frozen could suffer from the overexposure that the brand was put through in the last couple of years (especially after that infamous "short" that played before Coco last year), as well as the fact that the 1st one already hit the zeitgeist and usually you can only go down from there. I'd still confidently predict both to cross a billion, sure, but I disagree with them being virtual locks.
Okay I’ll go with you on Frozen 2.
But SW9 is 1) going to get a much different marketing push than Solo 2) has JJ directing who is not a risk-taker but is instead a crowd-pleaser 3) culmination of the story and the last Star Wars on the calendar for probably a few years. I would be stunned if it didn’t go over $1bn WW.
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18 minutes ago, MCKillswitch123 said:
Seems like I got this in the bag (yeah, I predicted after BP's opening, but the club allowed me to anyway, so fuck y'all)
@Asyulus Are we getting a 2019 billion movies club?
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Virtual Locks: Avengers 4, Star Wars IX, Lion King, Frozen 2.
Possibilities:
- Maybe F&F spin-off depending on how strongly it’s marketed.
- Maybe SLOP2, wouldn’t require too big a lift off SLOP.
- Spider-Man 2 and/or Captain Marvel could pull it off
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10 minutes ago, Barnack said:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/243290/share-of-3d-box-office-revenue-in-north-america/
Share of box office that come from 3D
2006: 1%
2007: 1%
2008: 2%
2009: 10%
2010: 21%
2011: 18%
There is not many movies in history for which you can so clearly track impact of cultural consumption and production in the US than Avatar.
It was the technology, not Avatar itself, because 2011 is virtually a match to 2010. And 3D is basically gone now, less than a decade later. So the novelty of 3D was interesting for a handful of years longer than Smell-O-Vision was.
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1 hour ago, ChipMunky said:
I'd like to remind everyone that remember specific plot points/characters in a film means zilch in regards to how good the film is.
It does say something about its cultural impact.
Something like Superbad has had immeasurably larger cultural impact than Avatar, at least in the US.
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26 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:
You know...3M+ folks can't go to the movies for free anymore...that has to have a decent effect, especially when you are looking at a bunch of movies hoping for mid-level and below box office to start with that fall into the "good enough to see, not good enough to pay much for" paradigm...
Not gonna convince most of you, but I anecdotally follow threads in a lot of places, and many folks just said they'd cancel and wait awhile til the next big movie season starts (since they've seen their fill of movies already and made their passes "worth it")...so you have many that went from weekly goers to non-goers for the next 2-3 months with little warning for the box office...
Bro, a half dozen comments every day beating this drum for five or six months in a row is getting so tiresome.
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Are we going to pretend to be stupid? This is nearly going 2x hater predix as of YESTERDAY
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Not sure who is allowed to start clubs, but my new favorite idea is “Chris Pratt’s Billion Dollar Summer” which is A:IW + JW:FK over $1bn domestic.
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Everyone saying “this cannot be beat” for years or decades is forgetting that the MCU is 11 years old.
There’s lots of time and lots of smart people in Hollywood. No one has matched up to Disney yet, but to think they won’t, or can’t.... that’s a mistake.
Candidates:
- If Avatar builds an amazing world and serial story, I could see Avatar 5 doing this. We don’t have any evidence today that it will, but we had no evidence that Endgame would do anything like this even two years ago.
- Lets say Chris Nolan took on another franchise, elevating a serialized trilogy of a re-made or new IP to superstar heights. (Bond? Side story in the lord of the rings universe?)
- Revenge of Star Wars. Star Wars 8 was awful and very poorly received. If SW8 had gotten the same reception as SW7, our collective mouths would be watering as we’d be wondering right now if SW9 could top Endgame. That’s not the world we’re in, but I could see Star Wars making a comeback with a built-up, amazingly excited, highly-anticipated movie sometime in the 2020s.