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Projections place “Jumanji” as the clear leader with a range of $25 million to $30 million over the Friday-Monday period The top end of forecasts put “Paddington 2,” “Proud Mary” and The Post each in the $23 million to $25 million range, while their respective studios project $15 million to $18 million. “The Commuter” appears to be heading slightly lower.
http://variety.com/2018/film/news/box-office-jumanji-paddington-proud-mary-1202659445/
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9 minutes ago, Taruseth said:
I will disagree with you there. The Markets not named US, Can and China are responsible for 55% of the worldwide gross.
So they are just as important.
And movies already made profit before China was a big market.
Even Expensive ones did.
And how many of this 55% was spend on local movies? I was thinking that we are talking about american movies. I agree with you that all other markets combined are as much important as china or dom, did i ever claim otherwise? I was comparing dom and china and i didn' t say a word about others international markets. Of course movie can make a profit without china did i ever claim otherwise?
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Imho thanks to dom studios can cover what they spend and thanks to china they're making profit. They wouldn't make a movie if they couldn't cover what they spend AND if they can't make a profit. So china is becoming as much important as dom.
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15 minutes ago, Deja23 said:
No one is denying China can save a movie/franchise. The discussion was about China’s becoming the new domestic market. There’s a difference between China being important for certain movies, especially those that underperform in NA and being the most important market for most movies in terms of profit regardless of NA performance. I don’t see China growing to that level for the next several decades, especially if they continue with their current policies.
15 minutes ago, meriodejaneiro said:THANK YOU!
That's what i said ... it's not happening now, and i don't know ir or when it will happen in the future. I never said it is never happeing. Just that at today China's returning box office profit rates, movies need to make more than double NA bo to get same profit. So whoever said "i hope when A2 comes out, CHina is the international "domestic" market" is something might not happen within 2 years.
I can't agree with you in 100% because with bigger and bigger budgets good result in China is necessary to make profit. So in this sense that there was time when good result in DOM was enough to make a profit, and now it's not enough. Do you really think that number of blockbusters who made a profit WITHOUT China is much bigger than number of blocbusters saved by China?
And I'm not claming that China is more important than DOM, or will be when A2 will be released I don't agree with JamesCameronScholar,
but I also don't agree with you in 100%
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1 minute ago, meriodejaneiro said:
These movies have in common being domestic under performers.
So China save them....
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2 minutes ago, Deja23 said:
That’s the point. There are certain movies that will do 2x domestic in China, but it’s nit the norm and doesn’t look to become the norm anytime soon. Looking at possible movies scheduled for the next 2-3 years, which besides Avatar, F&F, Transformers, PotC, etc. could make 2x domestic in China? F8, RE and XXX may have done it, but that’s only 3 out of the many movies that were released in China. Add the fact that China limits the number of movies a studio can release there, have specific blackout dates that can affect gross, and strict censorship, I don’t see changes happening for a while.
I think you are missing the point. Right now it's very unlikely that movie will make a profit only because of domestic market, so chinese market is becoming as much important like domestic. Of course i'm not going to say that china will one day become more important than DOM but china is already franchise saver, and i don't why someone could think that it will change in future.
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6 minutes ago, meriodejaneiro said:
O, i'm gonna give you F8 too ... that's 3 movies ...
Warcraft almost 5x times better. You can't expect that movie will do hundreds of millions in usa and double that in china, at least not right now...
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6 minutes ago, meriodejaneiro said:
2 movies ...
XXX made 45M dom, RE6 made 27M dom ... i can clearly see a trend here...
Thanks to China this movies made a profit. And f8 was close to 2x, and made in china 170 mln more than in usa.
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9 minutes ago, meriodejaneiro said:
I don't know when it will and if it will ... just saying that at those rates (20-25%) of incomes return from China, the numbers say a movie needs more than double de NA box office in China to get the same profit.
How many movies have doubled NA box office numbers in China so far?
Xander Cage did 4x times better in china and resident evil 6x times better.
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3 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:
I dunno, NATM's multi from today puts it at 421m. And this was a slightly softer Monday drop than that too...
Jumanji maybe will do 2x natm weekdays, but definitely wouldn't do 2x during weekend. 43.5 mln MLK weekend? Not possible. 375 mln is safe bet.
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Jumanji 2.668 NATM 1.309 (85 mln after this day ) Sing 1.168 (55mln after this day). It seems that Jumanji will end over 375 mln, i still don't believe in 400, but we will see.
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2 minutes ago, Valonqar said:
Now that it's between TLJ and TA, I'm rooting for TA.
I saw future and I can tell you that Disney movie will be winner
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3 minutes ago, Valonqar said:
TLJ 1.8M is a rounded number. The actual could be 1.759M.
If actual will be 1.8, LJ will be on course to finish around 620, below avengers, if actual will be 1.759 LJ will be on course to finish around 620, below avengers
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Jumanji international updated from 275 to 279.3. Half billion seems possible (depends on china).
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Rogue one 1.759 mln. So lj is on course to finish around 620, below avengers.
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I don't understand how you can expect that Jumanji will do more than 400 mln, it would have has more than 180% of NATM dailies, how can it be possible? 40 mln$ MLK weekend?
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3 hours ago, a2knet said:
If Jumanji's prod budget is actually 90m, it's gonna do 8-9x that ww. If it can match current expectations in China and approach 150m, then GOTG2 and SMH are not safe on the global 2017 charts.
50 mln in China will be success.
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23 minutes ago, the beast said:
Jumanji is apparently gonna pass $500m by Sunday at least
And didn't open in China and Japan(and few smaller markets) yet.
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Spoiler5 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:
TD YD Title (Click to View) Studio Daily Gross % +/- YD / LW Theaters / Avg Gross To-Date Day 1 - Insidious: The Last Key Uni. $12,743,000 - - 3,116 $4,090 $12,743,000 1 2 1 Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle Sony $10,800,000 +79% -39% 3,801 $2,841 $219,172,666 17 3 2 Star Wars: The Last Jedi BV $6,584,000 +51% -65% 4,232 $1,556 $555,546,602 22 4 3 The Greatest Showman Fox $4,175,000 +75% -22% 3,342 $1,249 $67,279,372 17 5 4 Pitch Perfect 3 Uni. $3,320,000 +72% -50% 3,458 $960 $79,077,090 15 6 - Molly's Game STX $2,280,000 +652% +209% 1,608 $1,418 $9,496,560 12 7 5 Ferdinand Fox $2,255,000 +50% -50% 3,156 $715 $65,024,118 22 8 7 Darkest Hour Focus $1,830,000 +176% +5% 1,733 $1,056 $23,866,107 45 9 6 Coco BV $1,543,000 +40% -46% 1,894 $815 $188,085,961 45 10 8 All the Money in the World TriS $1,050,000 +77% -40% 2,123 $495 $17,631,909 12 11 10 The Shape of Water FoxS $845,000 +81% -28% 804 $1,051 $19,398,464 36 12 11 Wonder LGF $751,000 +74% -39% 1,258 $597 $125,008,086 50 - 9 Downsizing Par. $654,000 +37% -59% 2,020 $324 $21,384,118 15 - - The Post Fox $496,267 +757% +189% 36 $13,785 $2,645,923 15 - 12 Father Figures WB $380,000 +18% -69% 1,717 $221 $15,890,460 15 - - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri FoxS $187,000 +96% -11% 310 $603 $24,874,714 57 - - Thor: Ragnarok BV $161,000 +29% -48% 325 $495 $312,105,786 64 - - Justice League WB $160,000 +17% -63% 518 $309 $226,635,639 50 - - Daddy's Home 2 Par. $135,000 +44% -57% 429 $315 $102,596,502 57 - - Murder on the Orient Express (2017) Fox $133,000 +74% -36% 391 $340 $101,238,135 57 - - Hostiles ENTMP $87,000 +1,129% +723% 46 $1,891 $212,192 15 - - Marshall ORF $1,539 -3% -53% 41 $38 $9,476,811 85 Thor over Justice League
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Is jumanji 6.9 mln official?
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15 minutes ago, Hermia said:
Daily Domestic Chart for Wednesday January 3rd, 2018
← Previous Chart Chart Index Movie Distributor Gross Change Thtrs. Per Thtr. Total Gross Days - (2) Star Wars Ep. VIII: The Las… Walt Disney $5,100,000 -35% 4,232 $1,205 $544,488,403 20 - (4) Pitch Perfect 3 Universal $2,265,195 -33% 3,468 $653 $73,828,655 13 - (8) Darkest Hour Focus Features $778,545 -17% 943 $826 $21,372,667 43 - (9) Downsizing Paramount Pictures $632,255 -31% 2,664 $237 $20,251,632 13 - (11) Father Figures Warner Bros. $467,119 -32% 2,902 $161 $15,188,848 13 - (13) Molly’s Game STX Entertainment $357,125 -15% 271 $1,318 $6,913,420 10 - (14) Lady Bird A24 $235,613 -5% 392 $601 $32,351,107 62 - (15) Justice League Warner Bros. $178,230 -28% 1,215 $147 $226,339,162 48 - (-) The Disaster Artist A24 $175,593 -15% 507 $346 $18,552,297 34 - (-) Daddy’s Home 2 Paramount Pictures $121,691 -30% 1,073 $113 $102,367,444 55 - (-) Phantom Thread Focus Features $37,910 -3% 4 $9,478 $681,415 10 - (-) A Bad Moms Christmas STX Entertainment $20,357 -9% 214 $95 $71,978,678 64 - (-) The Florida Project A24 $12,443 -5% 33 $377 $5,338,857 90 - (-) Blade Runner 2049 Warner Bros. $11,173 +23% 75 $149 $91,691,337 90 - (-) Geostorm Warner Bros. $8,901 -19% 110 $81 $33,620,034 76 - (-) Hostiles Entertainment Studi… $7,732 -10% 5 $1,546 $118,111 13 - (-) Victoria and Abdul Focus Features $2,440 -13% 23 $106 $22,242,380 104 - (-) Marshall Open Road $1,079 -26% 50 $22 $9,473,687 83 Our box office charts are compiled from data provided to us by distributors. To be included on our charts, please send reports to bodata@the-numbers.com. Justice league finally outgrossed Logan.
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6 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said:
I'm going with about 40 million tickets for Jumanji and about 64 million for Last Jedi by the time they finish their runs.
According to this site
https://mrob.com/pub/film-video/topadj.html
Avengers sold over 72 mln tickets, with simmilar box office result, and with over 10% average ticket price rise between 2012 and 2017 64 mln seems like good prediction, but i was thinking that average price for sw8 is much higher than average ticket price in comparisons to avengers.
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2 minutes ago, baumer said:
Well over $8.00. Not sure where he is getting $6.00 from. Same place that Empire City gets his non existent data that says the wom is extremely positive for TLJ.
If average ticket is below 9$ and biggest screens are restricted only to SW8 I was assuming that average ticket price is below average ticket price. Besides my point was that sw8 will have earn much more money than jumanji(around 2 times) but will sell only around 1.5x tickets.
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13 minutes ago, KJsooner said:
Jumanji Welcome to the jungle is one of the most surprising box office runs the last 10 years. Freaking insanity how well it’s doing especially with red firebird mentioning it didn’t get a lot of premium formats! Could’ve went for 400 million possibly? I know at the local theater I go to the premium format offers a bar type of setting with food for $18 a ticket. Regular price for the smaller formats is $5-7. Disney screwed Sony with this deal.
So if average price for Jumnaji is around 6$ it will have around 50 mln admissions. If average ticket for SW* is over 10$ it will have more than 55 mln admissions. I didn't expect that this gap is so small.
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Daily Numbers | Tuesday Jan 9th | TLJ 2.40, I4 2.21, TGS 1.90
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Jumani 3.544 in comparision to NATM 1.228 looks amazing. NATM did 84 mln more, sky is the limit for Jumanji.