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On 11/17/2023 at 2:51 PM, interiorgatordecorator said:
50% seems pretty great
why ouch?
BP 2 had a 31.5 % drop on the same weekend last year. GotG 3 dropped 31 % earlier this year. Ant-Man 3 dropped 37 %. (Though Ant-Man, Guardians and BP all opened on a Wednesday - Taking some of the pressure of the weekend, The Marvels opened on a Thursday and "only" had previews on Wednesday - and with how big previews have gotten in the US etc- they pretty much became a full day meaning other countries have a 4 day OWend and then a 3 day 2nd Wend, leading to somewhat larger drops).
Though to be fair, Marvel movies have dropped close to 50 % in the past too (Endgame dropped 48 %), Infinity War dropped 56 %.
So it's not great, but it honestly isn't awful either.
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4 minutes ago, Brainbug said:
WTF
It's Taylor Swift
(The US (and others) seems to go absolutely feral for her).
Not that I expect it to ever come to cinemas in Germany, but I would be really interested in what it could do here (nothing crazy like in the US).
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Does anyone now in how many theaters the triple features were shown.
Cause the ones I looked into seemed to have been quite packed (above 500 people per cinema).
People even booked the awful seats in the first rows and the ones on the side in like the first five rows or so - and that for 12 hours (Extended Version...).
LotR 1 now definitely has above 12m admissions (only needed 4.5k) (the ninth movie since 1957 and only the second since 2000 (the other is Harry Potter 1) (before 2000 Titanic did it in 1998 and continuavano a chiamarlo Trinità (Vier Fäuste für ein Hallelujah) was the last before Titanic and that movie started in 1972 and Otto did it in 1985 (if one adds BRD and DDR numbers)).
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23 hours ago, Issac Newton said:
Barbenheimer
1st Weekend
€2.360.192 / €2.360.192 | Oppenheimer
€2.347.858 / €3.242.627 | Barbie
2nd Weekend
€2.610.486 / €6.383.753 | Oppenheimer
€2.579.304 / €7.521.836 | Barbie
3rd Weekend
€2.538.643 / €10.481.499 | Oppenheimer
€2.037.773 / €11.199.693 | Barbie
4th Weekend
€1.443.868 / €13.059.991 | Oppenheimer
€1.402.667 / €13.852.063 | Barbie
5th Weekend
€1.038.985 / €15.787.787 | Barbie
€1.032.967 / €14.764.971 | Oppenheimer
6th Weekend
€1.034.039 / €16.238.598 | Oppenheimer
€0.949.145 / €17.279.273 | Barbie
Bloody insane.
Barbie is #10 in € and will soon top Mario to become the highest one this year and Oppenheimer will most likely enter the top 10 of all time as well (pushing out Mario).
So two of the top 10 movies (of all time) will have started on the same weekend - in general the top 10 movies are so modern (4 (Avatar 2, NTTD, Mario and Barbie) from the past 3 years and 4 (Lion King (#1), Bohemian Rhapsody, Spectre and Skyfall) from the past decade, only Avatar and Titanic are from before that).
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Monday trend
#1 Barbie 270k (4560k)
#2 Oppenheimer 192.5k (3097.5k - definitely will top Inception to become Nolan #1)
#3 Rehragout Rendezvous 165k (745k)
#4 Meg 2 90k (710k)
#5 Gran Turismo 45k (180k)
Blue Beetle 40kI'd assume Elemental got to 40k too (maybe even a bit more, so Blue Beetle opened sixth or seventh - that's not just bad, that is utterly horrendous).
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2 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:
Final estimates from insidekino.de:
#1: Barbie - 425k
#2: Rehragout - 400k incl. previews
#3: Oppie - 300k
#4: Meg2 - 150k
all other releases <100k admissions, but family releases all went up from Saturday estimates so I guess weather wasn't as good as predicted! Still an excellent summer weekend.
Was quite rainy yesterday.
Overall still a nice weekend.
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7 hours ago, Poseidon said:
Yes it is.
From may until the past week, Top 10 movies made 2,5m more admissions compared to 2022. Source: http://www.insidekino.de/DTop10/23/DTop23AUG3.htmOn the left side is a y2y comparison.
Overall the year isa ste into the right direction with numbers close to 2018/2019. I don't think the rest of the year will hold pace though.
Especially if some movies end up moving to next year.
20 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:true - German BO is always leggy when it comes to family releases (multiplicator of 10+ not unusual but usually with lower OWs), this is really an outstanding success after a lukewarm OW! It will drop a lot with beautiful weather returning this week but will still stay in theaters for many weeks more - 2mil total are very hard to reach from here but I'd say there's a slight chance; probably 1,85-1,9mil in the end. In Austria, 200k are locked, probably 250k in the end.
Austria seems to have returned stronger than Germany. Do you know if total admissions are above 2018 / 2019?
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1 hour ago, IndustriousAngel said:
final estimates from insidekino.de have the Top3 a bit higher, other releases a bit lower than earlier estimates ... let's see
Yeah with Oppenheimer getting to 500k, that would be 3 back to back weekends with two movies above 500k.
Last weekends with two 500+k movies were 2015/47 (two above 750k), 2015/40, 2015/01, 2014/52 (two movies above 600k), 2014/01 (two above 600k), 2013/52, 2013/48, 2013/47 (two above 700k), 2013/22, 2013/07, 2012/17, 2010/32, 2009/49...
2013/52:
Hobbit II: 1072k (3rd weekend)
Medicus: 714k (new)
Frozen: 540k (in its 5th weekend)
2012/31 missed it barely (TDKR had 499186 admissions)
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2nd trend by http://insidekino.de/News.htm
#1: Barbie - 660k (-20%)
#2: Oppie - 475k (-21%)
#3: Meg2 - 275k (WTF)
#4: Elemental - 125k (-16% and 1385k after weekend, should get to 1600k)
#5: M: I-DR Part 1: 105k (-33%)
#6: TMNT Mayhem - 100k
#7: Miraculous: 85k (-28%)
#8: Lassie: 82.5k (-16% / -29% i.P.)
#9: IJ5: 60k (-37%)
#10: Haunted Mansion: 30k (-55%)
#11: Insidious: 27.5k (-43%)
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2 minutes ago, Brainbug said:
The great thing about all of this is that the weather will be very shitty and unpleasant for this week as well and maybe for next week. Its so good.
The weather is great, much rather have this than 35 °C and trees, lawn etc. are actually green this summer and now yellow-brown.
Thinking Oppenheimer should get a shot at 3m and has an outside chance at becoming Nolans most successful in Germany (needs to pass Inception's 3501k for that). But needs two great holds (Next weekend should probably be like 500k for that).
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On 7/27/2023 at 5:57 PM, Taruseth said:
I think its the best week since 52 / 2019 (3.65m with SW IX in first place).
Its great, nature needs the rain and its good for the cinemas.
Maybe, maybe we see something like this:
Barbie: 650k
Oppenheimer: 525k
MI 7: 130k
Elemental: 130k
Miraculous: 115k
Lassie: 115k
IJ 5: 80k
I know that that is extremely optimistic, but I think its possible. Presales look good overall.
So I was actually pessimistic because 5 movies exceeded their number and the other two matched their number.
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3 hours ago, Issac Newton said:
Week 1
€11.263.684 | 1.215.469 admits - Barbie
€9.268.844 | 805.919 admits - Oppenheimer
€20.532.528 | 2.021.388 admits - Barbenheimer
Along with remaining of the Top 10, Mobilization for this week exceeded 3M admits making it the best Week since ___
I think its the best week since 52 / 2019 (3.65m with SW IX in first place).
3 hours ago, Brainbug said:At least the weather is really bad this weekend.
Its great, nature needs the rain and its good for the cinemas.
Maybe, maybe we see something like this:
Barbie: 650k
Oppenheimer: 525k
MI 7: 130k
Elemental: 130k
Miraculous: 115k
Lassie: 115k
IJ 5: 80k
I know that that is extremely optimistic, but I think its possible. Presales look good overall.
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23 hours ago, across the Jat verse said:
Thanks RTH. Surprised no Cinemaxx in these. Cinemaxx Hamburg had really strong OD for Barbie.
True but the Cinecittà and the Mathäser are the second and third biggest cinema in Germany and the CS Metropolis is around number 8 (±1). The one in Hamburg has 40% less seats and different to the smaller ones in the list no IMAX (the two UCI in Hamburg have a screen).
The largest cinema in Germany (at least in the past) is the Cinemaxx in Essen (only one with 5000 seats).
On 7/25/2023 at 10:42 AM, cannastop said:hmm so the biggest IMAX in the world is 8th in Germany
It "only" has 1720 (600 in the IMAX) seats compared to more than 4000 for the Cinecittà and the Mathäser.
Zoo Palast has an IMAX screen too (791 seats).
And the cinemas at Mercedes-Platz and Ruhr-Park have an IMAX screen too.
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4 hours ago, LonePirate said:
If that $27.5M Monday holds, that would make it the 11th biggest Monday of all time. Here's the Top 10 from Mojo:
1. BP
2. TFA
3. NWH
4. Endgame
5. TGM
6. A2
7. RO
8. TFA (simply bonkers that it's on this list twice)
9. TROS
10. SM2
200K more for Barbie and it would pass SM2. Simply ridiculous numbers for it.
So:
1. Presidents' Day
2. Christmas week (21st)
3. Christmas week (20th)
4. Normal day
5. Memorial Day
6. Christmas (Boxing Day)
7. Christmas (Boxing Day)
8. Christmas (28th - between the years)
9. Christmas week (23rd)
10. Independence Day holiday (5th July for Sunday)
So 2nd biggest without a holiday or Christmas.
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5 hours ago, Issac Newton said:
TFSS/Total
Oppenheimer - €2.360.192
Barbie - €2.347.858/€3.242.627
That's crazy, those are, if I am not mistaken the #13 and #14 largest openings (in €) ever.
(Compare: http://insidekino.de/BO/NL2023.htm #11 is Avengers 3 with 2.441m, #12 is SW-TFA with 2.422m, now #15 should be Doctor Strange 2 with 2.320m)
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10 hours ago, Poseidon said:
Yeah well, Elemental is obviously having great legs and is having a great support by the first bad weather weekend in ages, but the sad truth is, that it will just barely crawl past 1m admissions and is battling Cars 3 as the 19th best Pixar-Admissions, only beating "Onward", "The Good Dinosaur" and "Toy Story 4".
I mean, how the mighty have fallen from the golden Pixar age in Germany.
And Lightyear... (Not that that really counts xD).
Thinking it has a shot at Cars 3 - its at 915k after a 115k weekend, should have solid chance at 1.3-1.4m (but only if the weather stays rather rainy, which it right now mostly looks like).
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Just now, across the Jat verse said:
500K would need almost flat SUN from SAT, that is gonna be really really hard.
One can always dream
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1 hour ago, across the Jat verse said:
Oppy higher in gross Thu-Sat, Sun likely will make Barbie ahead though.
5-days Barbie ahead.
Full run I guess Oppy may win.
Nice
3rd Trend by http://insidekino.de/News.htm
Barbie 585k (4-day) 700k (i.P.)
Oppenheimer 475k (nice - hopefully gets to 500k)
MI:DR 165k (-29%/-42%) 545k
Miraculous 110k (-3%) 580k
Elemental 105k (-0%) 905k
IJ5 97.5k (-26%) 965k
Insidious 55k (-29%) ~275k
No Hard Feelings 25k (-41%) ~395k
5 above 100k, maybe 6, that's nice at least, but drops off hard after that.
In case Oppenheimer gets to 500k Barbenheimer would have the second and third best OWend this year.
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1 hour ago, Zamor said:
ITALY OD (No prev.)
€2.15m - 285k adm
3rd best July OD, behind HP 6 (€2.7m) and HP 8 (€3.2m).15th best OD ever
46 minutes ago, Issac Newton said:Spain
€1.8M / 270K admits (350 SC)
Is that OD only?
They both are big.
Germany is kinda weak in comparison Wednesday "previews" were around 125k and Thursday was a little less, probably around 110k. So 1.5 day total is 235k (below both) but gross around €2.1-2.2m. Which is quite a good performance, the actual weekend (TFSS) will probably be the second biggest opening weekend this year (behind Super Mario Bros and third biggest weekend overall after SMBs opening and second weekend) and #7 since 2020.
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2 hours ago, IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son said:
Hey if Disney still want to sell Pixar I'm sure WB will pick them up for the prospect of getting the rights to a live action Toy Story/Barbie crossover
When did Disney want to sell Pixar.
Especially with D+ I doubt they will sell it, its one of the pillars of it.
And WB has way too many problems to buy it.
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19 minutes ago, el sid said:
The unpleasant final trend from insidekino.de:
#1 Indiana Jones 155k
#2 Miraculous - Ladybug & Cat Noir 190k
#3 Insidious 87.5k
#4 Elemental 87.5k
#5 No Hard Feelings 42.5k
#6 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse 30k
#7 TLM 27.5k...
Mein fabelhaftes Verbrechen 15k
Hoping next weekend the weather will be cooler and cloudier (than predicted), think the drops should be very small, maybe, if it turns out a bit rainy, we could even see increases, I wouldn't bet on it (being rainy) though. At least should be not as hot as this weekend.
Most of these drops are BIG.
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1 hour ago, el sid said:
The second trend from insidekino.de - hopefully Mark_G is just very conservative:
#1 Indiana Jones 160k
#2 Miraculous - Ladybug & Cat Noir 200k (with previews; now in line with expectations)
#3 Insidious - The Red Door 100k (still above expectations)
#4 Elemental 90k
#5 No Hard Feelings 47.5k
#6 Spider-Man - Across the Spider-Verse 32.5k
#7 TLM 30k...
Mein fabelhaftes Verbrechen 20k
With how hot it is - I doubt it and the temperature tomorrow is predicted to be as high or even higher than today.
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On 7/1/2023 at 11:07 AM, pepsa said:
The second trend
#1: Indiana Jones 5 - 350k (down 25k sadly)
#2: Elemental - 175k - up 25k, would be a 5% increase week to week
#3: No Hard Feelings - 90k an 19% increase
#4: The little mermaid - 60k basicly flat
#5 Spiderman ATSV - 50k (-28.5%)
Insidekino.de posted the third trend - ouch is all that can be said.:
#1: Indiana Jones 5 - 300k (OUCH)
#2: Elemental - 200k (+19% - nice)
#3: No Hard Feelings - 85k (+14%)
#4: The little mermaid - 62.5k (-1%)
#5: Spiderman ATSV - 52.5k (-26%)
#6: Ruby - 45k
#7: Transformers - 37.5k (-24%)
#8: F&F 10 -35k (-6%)
#9: Flash - 35k (-38 % only slightly worse as last weekends drop of 36 %)
Just for the laugh: Indiana Jones 4 opened with 1077k.
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28 minutes ago, M37 said:
Worst Second Weekend Drops
min 4000 locations for second weekend
- Morbius (4,268) = -73.8%
- Onward (4,310) = -72.9% [COVID-19 pandemic]
- Potter DH2 (4,375) = -72.0%
- The Suicide Squad (4,019) = -71.5% [Day & Date release]
- Twilight: New Moon (4,042) = -70%
- AM&W Quantamania (4,345) = -69.9%
- Breaking Dawn Pt1 (4,066) = -69.8%
- Space Jam 2 (4,002) = -69.1% [Day & Date release]
- Batman vs Superman (4,256) = -69.1%
- Breaking Dawn Pt2 (4,070) = -69.1%
- Shazam 2 (4,071) = -69.0%
- X-Men: Wolverine (4,102) = -69.0%
- Fantastic Four (4,004) = -68.2%
Besides the three pandemic/Day & Date affected films, there's 4 of the massive YA titles, and 6 CBMs, three of which have come out in just last 18 months.
How high - or I suppose, LOW - does Flash rank by the end of next weekend?
I think 1-3.
But maybe it surprises.(for #1 it would need to do less than 14.4m - that sound really awful)
(The DH2 drop is awful.)
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True but the difference between 77% and 67% drops is quite big - for a 67 % drop Marvels would have needed to do ~15.2m this weekend.