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8 hours ago, SpiderByte said:
Outside of online echo chambers most people enjoyed Last Jedi for instance.
Both me and my sister saw the Last Jedi. We didn't 'hate' it, but we stopped caring (that movie turned star wars into a joke). Neither of us has seen the third movie whose name I can't be bothered to look up.'
So yes, Last Jedi was enjoyable spectacle in a space balls kind of way.
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I love the box office forum for the numbers and analysis, but it really has become an echo chamber. This saddens me a little.
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1 minute ago, Willowra said:
Tied with Eternals & Ant-man 3
Damn, you caught me before my edit.
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So tied with the eternals and quantumania for the MCU's lowest cinemascore.
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Funny, I have every thunderbolt comic up to issue 91 in a box in the basement, yet I have zero interest in seeing the movie.
Rather, I dread what they'll do to my favorite comic run. For example, when fixer (white in comics) disguises himself as mach-one, his appearance is a black man. Nowadays that's called blackface, right? There's no way they'll keep that (it's a villain disguising himself, it shouldn't matter!). I don't even want to think about everything they'll change.
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Moving this to thunderbolt thread
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Rather than superhero burnout, I think it's that a lot of people have been "burnt" by disappointing superhero movies lately and are waiting for positive wom before heading to the cinema. That's why Guardian's 3 started low, but legged it out to a decent total. That's my 2 cents. (but don't trust me, I was completely wrong about barbie's legs)
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3 minutes ago, AdrianL said:
Uh... this is not gonna be like TLJ lol what
The audience this film was made for, women, are loving this movie.
We'll see. You might be right.
All I know is that there is apparently some very heavy messaging in this film that is going to catch people by surprise. I just can't imagine this type of "bait and switch" is good for a movie's legs.
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1 hour ago, eddyxx said:1 hour ago, Bob Train said:
BARBIE (2023)
Well there it goes, 600m is locked.
I just checked out of curiosity, and the last jedi had an A cinema score too: (honestly surprised about that.)
https://twitter.com/CinemaScore/status/942037792544251904
There is a reason I bring this up. Both films had great trailers that hid potentially divisive elements. (no one was talking about how feminist barbie was until the review embargo lifted).
I don't think the legs will be as bad a the last jedi (I haven't seen the movie, so I can't can't say for sure), but I don't think this will have staying power normally expected of an A cinema score. (I noticed projections for 72.5 friday earlier today, then it's down to 70). That's just my two cents.
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7 minutes ago, Eric Jones said:
Disregarding that I'm sure those moments make sense in context, I don't see why this is a problem? Like why is Indiana Jones not allowed to deal with conflict or fight against his partner? Partners squabbling and trying to fight one another isn't an uncommon story trope. Who cares?
Bullying an eighty year old man isn't the way to make a character endearing, especially when he's so beloved.
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6 minutes ago, LegionWrex said:
No you see, it's because women bad.
Unlikeable, badly written women are bad.
From what I heard, PWB steals from Indie, tells police to shoot indie, and punches him unconscious. Why would I want to see that?
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3 minutes ago, Jiffy said:
TLJ backlash remains the dumbest pop culture reaction of the past 10 years, I'd say. Improved on TFA in practically every way.
I'll respond to this by saying the Holdo maneuver is the dumbest thing I have ever seen in a major movie franchise. To drive home just how stupid that scene is, imagine a movie set on earth where the heroine runs the villain over with a car. The film then makes clear that no one on earth knew that "driving really fast into something causes damage" and that the heroine is a genius for figuring this out.
God, I'm still peeved about it.
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1 hour ago, Mulder said:
Almost everyone who's a regular here who's great, but all these new people with letter avatars and like under 500 posts (at best).....lol
btw, how do the letters work? What do they mean?
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1 minute ago, Prince Eric said:
Sadly no. Seems like a totally new poster. But I very much doubt they will last long on this forum at all.
Too true. I've been amazed at some of the mild toast comments that have gotten me warnings. I now mostly only lurk.
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4 minutes ago, upriser7 said:
Colorism is kinda rooted here....it's just how people's default mindset is here from childhood. They keep hearing from their family, relatives on how being fair skinned = beautiful, dark skinned = ugly.
The roots of the fair skinned/dark skinned thing in a lot of places (not everywhere) is class based rather than race based. It's a discrimination against manual laborers (ie: the poor that are out working in the sun all day).
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I will say that I saw the first Shazam opening weekend, but I have no desire to see the sequel.
The ending of the first film greatly disappointed me. Shazam is only slightly weaker than superman. So six shazams together would be stronger than the justice league. It's ridiculous.
Also, if shazam powers were something that can be shared, why stop at 6 people? Why not give everyone the power? Hell, once everyone can fly and generate electricity, that solves global warming (no need for cars/power plants).
I mean there is literally no stakes now because, if the shazams run into problems, they can just share the power with more people.
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12 minutes ago, JustLurking said:
I mean...captain marvel IS stronger than Thanos. I'm not sure what the problem is.
Announcing Captain Marvel is the strongest is a problem because it completely destroys Thanos threat as villain right before endgame. Going into the big finale, you want the audience wondering: "how in the world are they going to beat him?" With the heroes having an ace up the sleeve like captain marvel, it destroys the tension.
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7 minutes ago, Verrows said:
I'm not sure I'm following this logic...
If anything the issue seems to be Feige has taken his hands off the wheel and given it to far inferior creatives.
A lot of people attribute MCU's success directly to Feige as a creative (the architect overseeing everything). The 'strongest' comment reveals that he was more a manager and someone else was the architect. The architect is gone now, and feige just doesn't have the skills to direct the MCU on his own.
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MCU phase 1-3 were built around Thanos. He was the one all the interconnectivity was centered on, every piece of the puzzle foreshadowing as the ultimate villain. Thanos was the MCU's success.
Why do I point this out? Because in 2016 Kevin Feige said 'captain marvel' is the strongest in the mcu.
Ever since then I have know Feige wasn't the mastermind behind the MCU. If Thanos had really been his 'baby', his magnum opus, then there is no way he would have kneecapped him this way right before endgame.
Judging by MCU phase 4-5, the genius behind the MCU is long gone. The one positive to all the mediocre content is that it's revealing Kevin Feige as a hack coasting off someone else's brilliance.
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4 hours ago, ThomasNicole said:
It's certainly not.
At this point is clear to me that movies with strong representation needs to be always great, undeniable so, in order to have a chance of succeed.
Homophobics always find a way to be shitty, but it's way easier to bury a movie when it's bland or uneventhful.
The whole idea behind representation is that people like seeing themselves in movies.
It isn't Homophobics for straight people to have a preference for seeing straight romance. If you remove something that resonates with +95% of people, you've gotta make up for it elsewhere. Bland or uneventhful isn't gonna cut it.
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16 minutes ago, Brainbug said:
I hope im making sense here, but in short i think the effect of the World Cup for the Worldwide box office numbers will be felt, but it wont be as big as a normal World Cup.
I had completely forgotten about the world cup until this comment. Moving it to the winter was a terrible mistake.
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Can’t say I’d blame Feige if he chose to manage the burgeoning tv side more, especially since he got very reliable directors for the movies this time around like who would’ve thought Chloe Zhao would make the first rotten MCU film? Or Waititi AND Rami would make such polarizing films?
People give Feige too much credit.
The first twenty films of the MCU were a giant build-up towards Thanos. When Feige declared before endgame that "Captain Marvel is the most powerful in the MCU", this undercut the build-up (this isn't about politics, it's about story telling). A good villain is supposed to be stronger (think the scarlet witch).
If Thanos was Feige's baby, he would never have undermined him like that. The vision behind the MCU was someone else and that person is probably gone.
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27 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:
Cant they just drive to the plex and get the tickets at the box office? Especially in the absence of tv/internet/cell service, people would rather go to the plex for entertainment.
I imagine many are desperately waiting at home to check their emails. No phone or internet also makes coordinating outings harder.
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as for TRoS, there’s something I love about it, not as an actual movie, mind you, but what it represented.
To me, it represented a father who catches their kid smoking and makes them finish the whole pack so they never want to smoke again.
Disney was MAD at the hardcore TLJ haters, and realized that they were never going to satisfy them no matter what they did, so they decided to give them everything they said they wanted……and make them regret it.
As what Disney probably considers a TLJ hater, I'm not sure your example holds up.
I haven't seen TRoS. When something I love gets turned into a joke, I lose interest. (To me, the "Holdo Maneuver" was the dumbest thing ever done in a major movie franchise. Apparently, if you lightspeed into something it goes boom, and trillions of people over thousands of years were unable to figure this out.)
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Weekdays Thread | #THU - Godzilla -1.0 $1.28M, TBOSS $1.148M, Beyonce $1.145M
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I think that crowd considers anything without overt messaging to be anti-woke. That's why movie's like G-1 get drawn into the debate.
I saw G-1 yesterday, and it was great. Every single movie doesn't need to give female characters agency (especially in historical settings where it would be immersion-breaking). It's fine to have a male-centric movie every once and a while, especially one as well made as this.