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25 minutes ago, cannastop said:
Why do they HAVE to?
As Bill Cosby would say, "For the TIKs and the toks, and the Pudding POPS!"
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Barbie should do pop up clothing shops the week before opening, selling iconic outfits.
Hopefully the apparent message about beauty standards isn't too heavy handed. It wouldn't shock me if Hollywood types loved this script, but it turns out to completely miss the mark when you have the world's most beautiful people delivering it. Could quickly become like Kathy Lee making that autistic child cry, lol.
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4 hours ago, YourMother said:
Guys, Gals and people, there’s a simple reason why Minions is succeeding and Lightyear is flopping. Pixar is known for touching and smart films but is most known for one thing. Having moms with dumptruck asses.
Lightyear had no one, male, female or non-binary with the dumptruck but Minions did.
Enter Michelle Yeoh’s Master Chow, she a Kung Fu master and pretty thicc. Her actress is a baddie in real life too. In short, She bad. She got the MILF angle down and can fight, you can bet in her past, she had that Chun-Li built. That’s why Minions blew up because they had baddies in more than one way.If LY had a lesbian kiss between two momma dumptrucks, how many billions would it have made? Guess they'll have to save it for Incredibles 3.
Conservatives in the future: "That kiss was a bit short, no?"
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34 minutes ago, Borf the Borf said:
How does Sunday box office perform historically on a Sunday when there a holiday like July 4t4h on a monday? Any noticiabel change in patterns?
https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-chart/daily/2005/07/03
1 (1) War of the Worlds Paramount Pi… $19,775,949 -15% 3,908 $5,060 $100,561,125 5 2 (2) Batman Begins Warner Bros. $5,359,535 -6% -38% 3,765 $1,424 $151,070,575 19 3 (3) Mr. And Mrs. Smith 20th Century… $3,439,443 -12% -29% 2,985 $1,152 $143,931,499 24 4 (4) Bewitched Sony Pictures $2,809,578 -14% -47% 3,188 $881 $38,663,070 10 5 (5) Herbie: Fully Loaded Walt Disney $2,665,357 -15% -27% 3,521 $757 $35,149,843 12 https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-chart/daily/2011/07/03
1 (1) Transformers: Dark of the… Paramount Pi… $30,376,098 -12% 4,088 $7,431 $162,618,212 5 2 (2) Cars 2 Walt Disney $8,818,021 -7% -48% 4,115 $2,143 $117,204,002 10 3 (3) Bad Teacher Sony Pictures $4,932,854 -2% -41% 3,049 $1,618 $59,952,563 10 4 (4) Larry Crowne Universal $4,295,985 -9% 2,973 $1,445 $13,096,065 3 5 (5) Super 8 Paramount Pi… $2,759,094 -3% -18% 3,088 $893 $108,465,245 24 https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-chart/daily/2016/07/03
1 (1) Finding Dory Walt Disney $13,277,242 -11% -40% 4,305 $3,084 $372,166,778 17 2 (2) The Legend of Tarzan Warner Bros. $11,786,208 -7% 3,561 $3,310 $38,527,856 3 3 (3) The Purge: Election Year Universal $7,611,210 -19% 2,796 $2,722 $31,515,110 3 4 (5) Independence Day: Resurgence 20th Century… $5,869,939 -5% -42% 4,091 $1,435 $72,876,039 10 5 (4) The BFG Walt Disney $5,430,387 -13% 3,357 $1,618 $18,775,350 3 The Monday, July 4th drops;
https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-chart/daily/2005/07/04
1 (1) War of the Worlds Paramount Pi… $12,183,228 -38% 3,908 $3,118 $112,744,353 6 2 (2) Batman Begins Warner Bros. $3,729,794 -30% -7% 3,765 $991 $154,800,369 20 3 (3) Mr. And Mrs. Smith 20th Century… $2,150,975 -37% -5% 2,985 $721 $146,082,474 25 4 (5) Herbie: Fully Loaded Walt Disney $1,943,995 -27% +2% 3,521 $552 $37,093,838 13 5 (4) Bewitched Sony Pictures $1,919,943 -32% -32% 3,188 $602 $40,583,013 11 https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-chart/daily/2011/07/04
1 (1) Transformers: Dark of the… Paramount Pi… $18,033,185 -41% 4,088 $4,411 $180,651,397 6 2 (2) Cars 2 Walt Disney $5,356,308 -39% -23% 4,115 $1,302 $122,560,310 11 3 (4) Larry Crowne Universal $3,002,730 -30% 2,973 $1,010 $16,098,795 4 4 (3) Bad Teacher Sony Pictures $2,754,942 -44% -31% 3,049 $904 $62,707,505 11 5 (5) Super 8 Paramount Pi… $1,604,911 -42% +6% 3,088 $520 $110,070,156 25 https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-chart/daily/2016/07/04
1 (1) Finding Dory Walt Disney $9,619,207 -28% -6% 4,305 $2,234 $381,785,985 18 2 (2) The Legend of Tarzan Warner Bros. $8,054,549 -32% 3,561 $2,262 $46,582,405 4 3 (4) Independence Day: Resurgence 20th Century… $4,962,960 -15% +31% 4,091 $1,213 $77,838,999 11 4 (3) The Purge: Election Year Universal $4,624,185 -39% 2,796 $1,654 $36,139,295 4 5 (5) The BFG Walt Disney $3,941,459 -27% 3,357 $1,174 $22,716,809 4 And then Tuesday drops, instead of increasing.
I wonder if TGM can perform like (or better than) Independence Day Resurgence.
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10 minutes ago, Claudio said:
Inevitable flop if it happens
Nah, easy billion. Then follow it up with a Top Gun/Wizard of Oz crossover, where the wicked witch returns, kidnaps an older Dorothy (who happens to be Maverick's wife) and the climax is when Maverick is in a dog fight with the wicked witch, ending with her getting absolutely obliterated after she makes a tactical error on her broom, flying right into the Pratt & Whitney F135 afterburning turbofan and experiencing 40,000lbf first hand. Then Maverick goes and finds the Wizard, played by Jack Nicholson, and puts him on trial. Yup, it's a Top Gun/Wizard of Oz/A Few Good Men crossover.
Next movie? Top Gun/Vanilla Sky crossover. The whole thing wasn't real, and he eventually calls tech support and they tell him he can leave by jumping. He does, and BOOM - turns out he was a career assassin, sentenced to 'rehabilitation'. He'd believed he died on a subway train, but they captured him and put him in a simulation to believe he was Maverick. Yup, we're in a Top Gun/Vanilla Sky/Collateral crossover. He leaves, but quickly becomes a fugitive, after the pre-crime unit predicts he's about to kill again...
MCU has nothing on this. "Wanna go see the new Iron Man movie? They brought Thanos and RDJ back." "Lol, nah bud, the new Tom Cruise film is out; Top Jurassic Gun, where Maverick goes back to the Jurassic period to kill the dinosaurs before they can escape from theme parks and terrorize the world. I heard Jerry Maguire makes an appearance, along with Rain Man. "SHOW ME THE MONEY" "Definitely, definitely show me the money. I definitely have a need for speed; definitely. Uh-oh." "
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First day below $5m for TGM. Is that a record streak? 31 days.
Had 13 days above 10m, and another 18 above 5m, Will it have another 20+ days before it drops below 2.5m?
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3 hours ago, TwoMisfits said:
Elvis demo. Yup, still old white women as the primary demo, even more so than other musical bios...
Of course, coming in at around $30-32M means this didn't break as big as a lot expected - it just lived in the demo expected...
From Deadline...
"Elvis skewed heavily female at 58% with a massive 30% over 55 years old...Elvis pulled in a crowd that was close to 80% over 25, 61% over 35 and close to half over 45. Both those over 50 (43%) and the 35+ crowd (60%) on CinemaScore gave Elvis a solid A. Diversity demos were 62% Caucasian, 20% Latino and Hispanic, 7% Black, & 11% Asian/other. Elvis triumphed in the South where the movie notched five out of its ten runs. PLF Screens have driven 21% of the box office to date; those screens split among three other titles. Disney has all the Imax for Lightyear."
That's actually a pretty diverse demo for an audience that old. Probably because of its popularity in the south.
2 hours ago, grim22 said:How about the fact that people didn't seem to care for the movie even when it was announced. Blaming a lesbian kiss feels like working backwards from the conclusion you want to derive - only Supreme Court justices are allowed to do that in the US.
The lesbian kiss is way way way down the list of reasons it flopped. It felt like a Cars 2 rather than a Toy Story 5
Disney took a $200m crap on film, and is letting everyone do the Spider-Man pointing meme over why. Turns out bigots, the tolerant, and the allies have no interest in watching a steaming pile of crap, but we live in such a politicized time that everyone thinks the turd is the fault of their political opponents. Waiting for some Republican to say "Thanks Obama" and Dems to call for Russian disinformation to be investigated for this film underperforming, lol. Is there an off-brand Toy Story Republicans can rally around, like they did with those off-brand Oreos?
2 hours ago, BruiseCruise said:Lightyear should skew towards young adults who grew up with Toy Story and families with young children which means general younger parents, both of those crowds are far more pro LGBT than say boomers and yet Lightyear bombed
Young white adults who are liberal tend to have no children, or only 1. LY had a spectacularly white audience for a children's film these days. And the ratio of parents to kids was 1:1, which is also pretty low. Conservatives and minorities tend to have >2 kids, and at younger ages. So I have little doubt that LY brought in a liberal, white audience. You look at something like Dora, and I think the ratio was over 2 kids per adult, and incredibly diverse. Roughly half of children these days are a minority, and of the remaining half, most are children of conservatives (or independents). White liberal kids are a tiny minority these days.
1 hour ago, grim22 said:Watching Man from Toronto on Netflix. Woody Harrelson is so clearly supposed to be Jason Statham it isn't even funny. He dresses like Statham, his demeanor is like Statham and the character design is Statham. They didn't have enough time to change it to Harrelson since Statham dropped out like a couple of weeks before filming
How was the movie? My mom liked the old show, and she loves Jason Statham. I'm sure she'll be bummed to find Woody in this, lol.
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3 hours ago, grim22 said:
This is kind of stupid by this theater
I wonder if it was just a joke to quell the Karens? The kiss is a split second. So you can just tell people you'll fast-forward through it, and most won't notice if you don't.
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3 hours ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:
Republicans complaining about the lack of Tim Allen in Lightyear as some political agenda is even more hilarious knowing Disney is working with him currently on another Santa Clause project. So much for the "woke mob"!
Imagine if Tim has a gay kiss scene (and one that lasts more than a second). Full elf/Santa orgy, and Santa kicks all the cis women elves out. lol
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Studios love talking about diversity, and yet here we are with yet another white guy playing Elvis. This film is gonna flop because boomers don't go to the movies. They should have gone with Black Elvis.
That would have done Avatar numbers. Maybe Tom Hanks taking a pee can save this film, but I'm not confident.
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1 hour ago, Mulder said:
I didn't mean to offend, and my last sentence was too presumptuous and cynical. Though I do feel like they are using content warnings as a way to create awareness and as a form of activism, rather than providing a legitimate trigger warning; and that's not evil, especially since they view their goals as noble (and I do too; reducing mass/school shootings and overall violence is a great thing).
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1 hour ago, Ethan Hunt said:
Top Gun is not going to plummet lmao
Top Gun next week be like:
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1 hour ago, ringedmortality said:
Maybe I don't understand, but why is T-Mobile specifically the make it or break it carrier?
I believe T-Mobile has the most diverse and young customer base of the large carriers. So if you're still stuck in 70s marketing mode (which most businesses are), they have the demographics you want to get using/seeing your stuff.
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5 minutes ago, ringedmortality said:
Also apparently he forgot Joker being a huge hit despite all the hysteria of it being an incel manifesto
Considering that reporting on mass shootings typically leads to more mass shootings (similar to how reporting on suicides leads to more suicides), it felt tremendously unethical when some in the media were speculating about the possibility of mass shootings at screenings of the film. Some seemed to almost be cheerleading it.
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35 minutes ago, grim22 said:
Since you have brought this up. Please define "virtue signaling" in detail and what you think that means and why Top Gun 2 isn't doing that or anything.
I don't know his idea of virtue signaling, but typically it means only doing something for appearances, rather than out of one's own beliefs or values. With LY, shoving in a blink-and-you-miss-it lesbian kiss is 100% virtue signaling. Does anybody in the LGBTQ+ community feel like that was a great representation? I doubt it.
It would be like saying there is a Tim Allen cameo in LY, and then just having a shot of the the Buzz Lightyear toy from behind, and barely hearing Tim's voice for a second.
What's worst about corporate virtue signaling is it seems like they do it for 2 reasons; one is to signal to a particular group that they support them, without ever really doing anything substantial, which will hopefully bring in more $$$ from that group and their allies; and the second is for controversy, in which they can put some absolutely mundane kiss in a movie, stir the pot, get a little press for their movie, and then make it a good vs evil (lib vs con, dem v rep) battle, to hopefully drive up more sales. They get to muddy the waters on reviews, audience ratings, slightly influence critics, and blame 'bigots' if their movie fails.
For instance, I've seen dozens upon dozens of posts across social media (even a couple on this forum) about how awful it is that LY is flopping, because it gives the right a 'win'. Without that gay kiss, would that matter? Nope. Liberals wouldn't really care about it flopping. I imagine at least a few people went out and bought tickets for this very reason (though obviously not enough). Corporations are using social causes as a billboard and a shield.
It sucks that everything is becoming some left vs right battle, especially being a Canadian.
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57 minutes ago, CJohn said:
It will be a 4 way race for the top spot with 4 movies in the 30M range.
If Black Phone overperforms, could have the top 5 all within 10M of each other.
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2 hours ago, Krissykins said:
Well he’s never had as big a hit.
I’m not saying he didn’t help, of course he did. But it’s lightning in a bottle why it did so well. We’ve had plenty of requels before.
The original Top Gun was the top grossing movie of the year, and it was like.. 15th of all time back then. And two years later he again had the top grossing movie of the year, Rain Man, which was then something like the 19th of all time. (Domestic)
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3 minutes ago, CaptainJackSparrow said:
What are the reasons for why Disney gives Pixar larger budgets than they do for Disney Animation Studios? And have either studio's budgets been decreasing lately?
Maybe they roll the cost of R&D into these films? Possibly for some Hollywood accounting reasons.
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40 minutes ago, Agafin said:
What did Disney "pull" in France?
Disney isn't releasing Strange World in France because France has a law that prevents theatrical releases from going to streaming for 17 months.
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4 minutes ago, superduperm said:
A sub-15% drop seems impossible… I’ll believe it when I see it but wow
Consider that it's second weekend drop, when you take out previews, was a hair over 16%, and that's from a first weekend that was a holiday weekend, with a flat Sunday. It's third weekend dropped largely due to the loss of premium screens. This weekend there will be no loss of premium screens (maybe even picking up a few?), last week wasn't a holiday, and this weekend has both Juneteenth and Father's Day. Sub-15% drop isn't that outrageous.
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11 minutes ago, The Dark Alfred said:
We have to wait and see what TGM numbers look like but very good chance it climbs to the #1 spot next weekdays and finishes #2 behind Elvis next weekend. Will be way past 500m going into 4th of July. Holy Cannoli.
Next weekend could have a tight top 5, with #1 and #5 within about $10m of each other.
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27 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:
Lightyear postrack seems similar to Onward [A- on cinemascore]
Even though the movie notched great reviews at 86% certified on Rotten Tomatoes, an upbeat response from exhibition, and great PostTrak exits of 4 1/2 stars for general crowds and parents and 4 stars from kids under 12
Similar to Ghostbusters Afterlife, even the audience make-up, which was about 1/3 parents and kids <12. Parents gave Afterlife 5 stars, while kids gave it 4 1/2. I believe Afterlife got an A-, as well.
But only 1/3 of the audience being families, and seemingly 1 parent to 1 child, suggests this is going to majority white audience, and likely liberal (since they have fewer children). Family films tend to have >50% of the audience as parents and children, and about 1 parent for every 2 or 3 kids. So I suspect the legs will be weak on LY.
I wonder if larger families treat Top Gun as a 'family' movie like they do with Jurassic Park (fighter jets=cool like dinos=cool), and opted towards those instead?
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12 minutes ago, Ipickthiswhiterose said:
I also think it would have been fun to commission Pixar's first live action film about a prima donna actor Chris Evans who refuses to do voiceovers for toys and plucky unemployed voiceover artist Tim Allen who fills in and they solve a toyline related crime together with hilarious consequences. That would have really staved off any aggro. And been a far more fun film than Lightyear.
Take my money! I want this film lol
4th of July Weekend | Tiktok propels Minions 2 to 108.5 3-Day OW | TGM 25.5, Elvis 19, JWD 15.6, Black Phone 12.3 | Independence Day Weekend Sale!
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That's no different than any other film. Toy Story kept coming back because it generated BILLIONS in merchandise revenues after each film. Same with Cars. Same with most Disney properties. Lion King 2, which was straight to video, was the highest grossing home video of all time (iirc), which is why they did 1 1/2. (could you imagine this forum if Lion King 2 were released today, but sent to streaming instead of theaters..). Those movies were simply meant to renew interest in Lion King merchandise. Disney films are simply ads for toys, their parks, and now their streaming service (which is full of 90+ minute ads). Disney could potentially be more profitable if they released their family films in theaters for free, since more people would see it.
Even things like Family Guy got brought back because of DVD sales. Ancillaries can resurrect the dead. Lightyear should be able to scrape up some money on merch. Technically Playmobil had a record profit after they released that absolute bomb of a movie.. though the pandemic hit, which may have been the primary driver of toy sales.