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  1. 30 minutes ago, M37 said:

     

     

    And with all of that said, the sad reality is that not every location is going to make the cut, have sufficient business to justify the investment to convert to PLF, and their days may be numbered

    My local cineplex hasn't done anything since they brought in 3D for Avatar. And this is basically the state of most theaters in Canada. Unless you live in one of a dozen cities, you'll never see anything but standard or 3D screens. I haven't been to a theater in 5+ years. Even with TGM and the hype, I just can't see myself going and squeezing into those crappy, cramped, uncomfortable seats, and staring at a small screen.

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  2. About Netflix; it's fairly obvious they are switching to profit mode. Most companies like this do it after 20ish years, so they can benefit from net operating losses. Otherwise they are just throwing money away. Cut expenses, raise revenues, milk your marketshare. Losing subscribers isn't much of a problem. Look at AOL, which still makes hundreds of millions from subscribers who never cancelled. And Netflix will be underpriced, as people view losing subscribers as a very bad thing. eBay was far more profitable than Amazon until just a couple years ago, but Amazon's market cap is many multiples higher. But Netflix has a decent amount of IP behind it, and even focusing on a handful of projects and losing half their subscribers will make them insanely profitable.

     

    They've finished their growth phase. They could continue growing by other means, like introducing ads and a lower price, for instance. They could also off-load upfront content costs by opening their platform to very indie creators, and simply giving them an amount based on views. Another thing they could do is make their library more accessible, i always feel like the amount of content on Netflix is insanely small, because they basically curtain off most content unless you get into some extremely niche category or specifically search it out. Netflix absolutely sucks for discovering new content.

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  3. 3 hours ago, DAJK said:

    Me normally: ugh, capitalism sucks, these big corporations and ultra-rich folks hogging so much wealth.

     

    Also me when a quarter-billion-dollar movie does well at the box office, makes buttloads of cash for a big corporation, and makes rich people richer: ooooooo yay!!!

    Would you be better off if TGM didn't exist? If we cut up the Mona Lisa, would we all get a bit richer? 

  4. 13 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

    Anyone else find the popcorn backdrop is too visible?

    I think the opacity on the text panes need to be increased so we can't see the backdrop as well.

     

    I didn't know what you were talking about, but now that you've mentioned it I cannot unsee it. Your comment is a mind-virus, an infohazard/cognitohazard. You should delete it before others are corrupted.

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  5. 34 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

    Avatar 2 is guaranteed at 100m OW. The first one was a sleeper hit.

    The first one wasn't a sleeper. Everyone wanted to see it in 3D, and only about 10% of screens were 3D at that time (most transitioning specifically for this film). 80% of Avatar's revenue came from those limited screens, which is why they had such long legs. Ticket prices were 2-3x the price for 3D compared to regular theaters (in China, tickets were selling for $50,  because there were even fewer 3D screens, and western movies only stick around a short time; demand was super high). 

     

    If Avatar 2 doesn't have a 'gimmick' that draws people and raises ticket prices, I don't see how it does anywhere near as well as the first. The original Avatar has essentially no cultural relevance, most people couldn't tell you the name of a character, or quote any of the lines, nor do they really care. The movie is basically as impactful as a nature documentary done in 3D. I don't think I've seen anybody make a reference to that film since 2010. Even on social media, I barely see more than a dozen likes on Avatar 2 promotions, inside "exclusive" looks, etc. 

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  6. Usually people aren't talking about 'profit' as in revenues exceeding expenses. They are simply talking about the 'studios' portion of the theatrical box office exceeding the production budget, nothing more. That's "break even". Many films have a P&A budget that far exceeds its production budget. 

     

    And the 2.5 rule isn't very accurate anymore. Overseas cuts can vary a lot. Many of the big studios used to use foreign distributors which cut into their cut. Nowadays, the big studios handle most of their foreign distribution, so they are taking bigger and bigger cuts (but they also have more expenses).

     

    Domestically, the cut a studio gets can vary dramatically. Star Wars and other Disney releases can be as high as 67% going to Disney for the first week or two, and then that slides down. Some smaller films/studios will offer to only take like 40% (or less) to get theaters to take their movie. Theaters usually have a 'built-in' amount that they will take to cover their basic expenses, before doing the cut. For a blockbuster like Star Wars or Endgame, that amount is a rounding error. For a small film, that can cut into the studios take quite significantly.

     

     Theaters typically have to pay for copies of the film, which can be a couple grand or more per copy. If they are showing something on 4 screens, the theater could be paying $10k+ just for the film. I wouldn't be surprised if movies like Playmobil made more money from that than they did in total box office. Hell, they may not have gotten anything but that from theaters, lol.
     

    As for 'ancillaries' like DVD/home video, streaming, TV rights, etc, that can usually be much more valuable to the studios. And as mentioned, merchandise is a big driver, as well. Toy Story 3 had some $10 BILLION in merchandise sales in its first couple years, and that's why Bob Iger tossed mountains of cash at everybody to do a 4th one. Cars is similar. Same with Frozen. 

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  7. 21 minutes ago, a2k said:

    Feel TROS has a good shot at 3x still (needs 532.15) which will also put it at par with RO (532.18).

     

    In the end that meager dollop from China could be what puts it ahead of Joker ww. TROS could do around 535+550=1085

    (Imagining China for Joker on the other hand we get into 1.2b territory and #4 ww for the year, but that's a tougher 'if' to think about.)

    TROS may make more domestic than international..

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