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1 hour ago, DlAMONDZ said:
How long until Warner puts out a press release saying TSS was the biggest thing since Endgame on HBO Max?
They already did. Second highest viewed film on hbo max! It’s like mate, it lost to mortal Kombat. So less than 4 million people viewed it over the weekend and your service has over 40 million people.
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8 minutes ago, Dominic Brehetto said:
Kind of interesting to note that the verified audience RT score for TSS has been dropping steadily and quickly. It's gone from 92% to now 85% in 2 days. Wonder how much further it drops and when it starts to stabilize. Unverified is 80% for reference.
Was going to mention this. I think it’s fair to say almost a quarter of the audience is going to think the film is too silly for their taste. Not everyone loves gunn’s style.
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6 minutes ago, jimisawesome said:
What where people thinking this could do in a non covid world? To repeat what I am sure has been said a thousand times.
It went from PG-13 to R has that ever happened in a non horror franchise before? I mean its usually the other way round to chase those teen dollars.
The first one had Will Smith. This one no will smith and the marketing kind of made it appear they just replaced him with Idris Elba.
The first one had Joker this one had Polka Dot Man and Bloodsport.
This is coming off the quasi-sequel/spinoff Harley Quinn that disappointed and had an R rating.
This had a stupid confusing name. Call it at least Suicide Squad: Task force X
The first one had one of the better marketing campaigns this one is just what ever at best.
This did not have 4 dollar Tmobile tickets.
The first one had a hit album that was number 1 on the album charts and went 2x platinum that had at least 4 different platinum singles including one that peaked at 2 on the top 40 and went 9x platinum.
Basically, the first one had everything going for it.
The #1 reason this failed is because it was a sequel to a crap film where the hate for the original has only grown in the past five years unlike man of steel or to a lesser extent Batman v Superman ultimate edition which has aged like fine wine.
COVID and hbo max are of course secondary factors. This could have easily hit the 35 million mark or even 40 if those two factors weren’t in play. Still, it would have made less than half of the original in its opening weekend. That’s embarrassing. Such a bad idea to make a sequel to this and name it the Suicide squad rather than something more creative. The producers have massive egos and they’re going to get fired. Nothing could bring me more joy. I hope att finally steps in and tells Hamada and Emmerich they’re leaving before Christmas this year!
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9 hours ago, EmpireCity said:
Ignore me, I'm an idiot.
Where did you get that number originally?
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47 minutes ago, Ryan Reynolds said:
Wow, surprising.
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2 hours ago, RealLyre said:
30M or 25M are both not good results for this box office wise so nothing to get excited about. Another sacrifice from WB for temporary HBO Max growth that won’t do them any good in the long term since they don’t plan on keeping this release strategy for the near future.
It was a bad idea from the start in regards to hbomax. Also the spin is crazy. I want this film to make 25 million and see how the trades spin it for their buddies at wb. I mean jungle cruise made 35 million one week before and the delta variant is a secondary excuse. I think that’s the thing about studios. When you have stubborn people at the top, they’ll just make excuses and spin it. Frustrating. Yeah, this weekend is nothing to celebrate. I don’t think we’ll get a suicide squad 3 but Gunn will do something else.
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1 hour ago, WittyUsername said:
It’s a testament to how absolutely brand damaging the first movie was that this might not even open to $30 million, despite the critical praise.
Wb has absolutely ruined the brand and people are just waiting to be fired. I really wonder if they want to burn it down before they leave. These suits act like children.
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9 minutes ago, Krissykins said:
The Suicide Squad was still #1 on Monday, nice.
I actually thought Jungle Cruise could overtake since schools are off.
How much did each film make?
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28 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:
Let's not put the blame on CoVID. Truth is pre-sales have been poor from day 1. And not to forget JC opening to $35M this week.
#1 reason is that it’s a sequel to an awful film. Secondary factors are COVID and hbo max of course.-
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Just did three theatres in Ontario. Two bigger ones in Toronto and a smaller one from my hometown. Had to estimate the total seats for some of the theatres because we do physical distancing here so if I buy a single seat for myself, nobody is sitting on my left or right. Cineplex just blocks those seats off. Is any US state doing that? I don’t know how much Ontario will help. Maybe it’s doing better in other provinces.
T-4 to Thursday night:
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IMAX
7:00pm - 97 sold / 400
10:15pm - 58 sold / 400
Regular
7:30pm - 28 sold / 312
8:00pm - 15 sold / 300
10:45pm - 4 sold / 360
11:00 - 0 sold / 312
202 / 2084 = 9.69% sold (estimate)
Yorkdale
Ultra avx
7:30pm - 32 sold / 300
10:30pm - 6 sold / 300
Regular
7:00pm - 6 sold / 420
8:00pm - 6 sold / 420
10:00pm: 1 sold / 445
11:00pm: 0 sold / 350
51 / 2235 = 2.28 % sold (estimate)
Silvercity Richmond Hillultra avx
7:25pm - 20 sold / 315
10:30pm - 9 sold / 315
Regular
7:00pm - 3 sold / 288
10:05pm - 0 sold / 28832 / 1206 = 2.65%
The regular late night showings simply won’t sell because nobody wants them and it’s too late unless a few older teenagers/people in their early twenties decide to go soon. I hope this is helpful 🤷🏻♂️
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14 hours ago, LTHeroiques said:
1 : Health Pass - Box Office : 0
Opening Day in France (in tickets) :
Spider-Man 3 : 804 354
Avengers – Endgame : 692 142
Spider-Man 2 : 502 494
Spider-Man : 480 288
Spider-Man – Far From Home : 453 503
The Dark Knight Rises : 423 970
Avengers – Infinity War : 405 058
Avengers – L’Ère d’Ultron : 333 303
X-Men – L’affrontement final : 331 000
Iron Man 3 : 318 216
X-Men 2 : 310 592
Suicide Squad : 307 062
Avengers : 302 730
Joker – 291 152
Captain America – Civil War : 288 662
Deadpool : 285 711
The Dark Knight : 253 858
The Amazing Spider-Man : 251 226
X-Men – Days of Future Past : 248 522
Wolverine – Le Combat de l’immortel : 236 127
Spider-Man – Homecoming : 233 579
Les Gardiens de la Galaxie Vol. 2 : 232 682
Les Gardiens de la Galaxie : 231 384
The Amazing Spider-Man – Le Destin d’un Héros : 225 381
Thor – Ragnarok : 223 148
Deadpool 2 : 216 242
Man of Steel : 215 242
Captain Marvel : 212 199
Les 4 Fantastiques (2005) : 210 404
Les 4 Fantastiques et le Surfeur d’Argent : 208 717
Thor – Le Monde des Ténèbres : 204 882
Iron Man 2 : 204 491
Doctor Strange : 197 428
Batman v Superman – L’aube de la justice : 196 016
X-Men : 195 792
Venom : 190 054
Iron Man : 186 781
Black Widow : 184 770
Les 4 Fantastiques (2015) : 184 633
Hulk : 183 558
Black Panther : 178 202
X-Men Origins – Wolverine : 177 184
Logan : 172 409
X-Men – Apocalypse : 163 303
Ant-Man et la Guêpe : 158 825
Wonder Woman : 157 337
X-Men – Le Commencement : 150 541
Aquaman : 150 003
Thor : 149 381
Superman Returns : 146 007
Justice League : 130 050
Les Nouveaux Héros : 124 979
L’Incroyable Hulk : 116 770
Batman Begins : 111 820
Captain America – Le Soldat de l’Hiver : 110 798
Constantine : 104 702
Ant-Man : 102 010
Daredevil : 93 385
X-Men – Dark Phoenix : 87 991
Blade II : 87 208
Green Lantern : 86 918
Ghost Rider : 86 356
Captain America – First Avenger : 82 657
LEGO Batman – Le film : 74 867
Shazam : 70 998
Watchmen – Les Gardiens : 68 152
Blade – Trinity : 63 244
Catwoman : 57 217
Birds of Prey : 55 035
Spider-Man – New Generation : 47 597THE SUICIDE SQUAD : 45 224
Ghost Rider – L’esprit de vengeance : 40 674
Elektra : 39 833
Les Nouveaux Mutants : 26 279
The Punisher (2004) : 16 330http://lestoilesheroiques.fr/2021/07/the-suicide-squad-box-office-france.html
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58 minutes ago, RRA said:
A truly poetic film title if there ever was one.
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38 minutes ago, Ezen Baklattan said:
Joe Bell Tracking Date Showtime Date Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold 7/22/2021 7/23/2021 0 5 10 750 1.33% Old Tracking Date Showtime Date Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold 7/22/2021 7/22/2021 0 8 101 885 11.41% 7/22/2021 7/23/2021 0 16 128 1862 6.87% Snake Eyes Tracking Date Showtime Date Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold 7/22/2021 7/22/2021 0 7 66 604 10.93% 7/22/2021 7/23/2021 0 14 67 1295 5.17% Based on these numbers, I'm willing to guess Old is more likely to win the weekend. It'll arguably be better with walkups being a horror oriented film, while Snake Eyes, even with the showtime mixup, has just been a nonstarter. Wouldn't be shocked with a low teens opening.
Jungle Cruise Tracking Date Showtime Date Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold 7/22/2021 7/29/2021 0 10 49 1334 3.67% 7/22/2021 7/30/2021 0 8 49 2568 1.91% The Suicide Squad Tracking Date Showtime Date Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold 7/22/2021 8/5/2021 0 9 62 1234 5.02% 7/22/2021 8/6/2021 0 8 35 2568 1.36% JC is still one above Suicide Squad. Lol.
Awesome format! Thanks!-
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2 hours ago, filmlover said:
The main issue plaguing The Suicide Squad IMO is that it's a sequel also presenting itself as a soft reboot to a movie that most people didn't care for at all, which was already evident in a spin-off for one of its characters failing to meet even the lowest of expectations. It was probably destined to fall big time no matter what, especially with the main star not coming back (talented though he may be, Elba doesn't have 1/10th the level of starpower that Smith provides).
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5 hours ago, AJG said:
FLOPS!!!!!!
The beauty of this post is that I don’t know if you’re trying to be unfunny or if you are actually unfunny. -
6 minutes ago, cax16 said:
A new person for the ignore list!
6 minutes ago, cax16 said:A new person for the ignore list!
Thank God.
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47 minutes ago, cax16 said:
Yeah. Where are the official numbers? WB is scared to release them. Keep living in your own dream world though. Oh and cool of you to use a ten year old gif. Had that ready eh? Can’t wait to watch the suicide squad fail. -
2 hours ago, grim22 said:
The evidence is the large number of fans who never want to go back to Snyder and his version of things, especially after knowing what nonsense he had planned. Ayer is even below that. Snyder's divisive movies killed off the universe and it's a new start now.
Completely wrong. Sorry, but do some research. It was #1 on the U.K sales chart four times when it was released as a rental/buy. It was watched by over ten million people worldwide in the first 45 days of release. And it wasn’t marketed except by Snyder. WB tried to sabotage it by leaking it and it still found an audience. It was also over 3 hours and 45 minutes long. People are asking for it to continue on hbo max as it’s own universe but wb execs are losers and only care about their egos. That’s the truth. Why not release the streaming numbers if it was a failure? It wasn’t. That’s why WB won’t say a word about it. We could even have a series based on Snyder’s films but wb is stupid.
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20 minutes ago, Porthos said:
I only do previews, and yes it is very improbable. I floated a theory/analogy a couple of days ago and I wanted to see where the logic went if it was right.
It very likely isn't right. At the same time, I was curious, so I decided to see where the analogy would lead me if I followed it to its logical conclusion.
At the same time, I have doubts that TSS will under-perform so badly as to only get 3m in previews, so it is what it is at the moment.
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42 minutes ago, Porthos said:
I'm fairly dubious of the theory behind using Hobbs & Shaw as a comp, even though I'm the one who broached the possibility of it. Even so, if I comped TSS against H&S, then I get... 8.10m as a comp (yes, pre-sales for H&S were that poor for a long time).
However, we've seen time and time again that Sacramento is running hot compared to the rest of DOM. So far 2021 comps are off about 18 to 21 percent from what pre-2020 comps would suggest. With Ontario back, if I guesstimate that comps are now off by about 15 to 17 percent compared to what they were pre-2020, then I get something like 6.72m to 6.88m. Which is a lot better than current comping is suggesting.
Don't ask me how likely this is. Just noting what a Hobbs & Shaw like pre-sale pattern would suggest for The Suicide Squad.
Is that 6.72 to 6.88 number just for preview shows? I mean Thursday night? Seems improbable as of right now. There’s so little buzz for the Suicide Squad. Seems like nobody wants to watch another film with these characters. Do you have the numbers for Friday? Thank you!
The Suicide Squad Weekend Thread: 26.6M Opening Weekend, 35M OS | Jungle Cruise 15.7 (-55%), Old 4.1 (-40%), Widow 4 (-38%), Stillwater 2.9 (-45%)
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Gucci will cross 75 million domestic. 150 million worldwide. Cases should be down by then.
The Last Duel is tough subject matter. 50 million domestic and over 100 million worldwide? I don’t know haha.