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4 hours ago, Cap said:
petition to include- whatever happened to baby jane
- mommy dearest
- wizard of oz
- some like it hot
- the haunting
- pink flamingos (any John waters film)
- Cabaret
- interview with the vampire
I think Interview with Vampire qualifies. I don't Really Considered Wizard of Oz to be LGBT. I understand that a lot of metaphors for being gay are in their but we're the intentional at the time? But I also think it's over rated. But If you wanted to include it go ahead. I haven't seen the rest so I couldn't really say.
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FYC:
Call my By Your Name (2017)
God's Own country (2017)
The Duke of Burgundy (2014)
Pain and Glory (2019)
Mysterious skin (2004)
Portrait of a Lady on Fire (2019)
Hawaii (2013)
Querelle (1982)
Maurice (1987)
Brokeback Mountain (2005)
The Strong Ones (2019)
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Hello all happy pride month!
So I have really been feeling my singleness and watching a ton of gay content movies, and realized I have seen nearly 200 now. and seeing as it's June PRIDE month, I thought it was a good time to do this club. to my knowledge this kind of countdown has never been done before so it would make it this first ever of it's kind. I know there are ALOT of LGBT+ people on these boards (myself included). so I think there is enough interests. obviously anyone can and should participate though. so off to watching you go dance be gay!
So what qualifies? this one is a little more tricky than some, I feel like for the most part if the main character of the film is of the L G B T Q +' then it qualifies. having a film there they have a gay friend does not.. but there are exceptions and if you have one you think might qualify but are not sure make an argument for it. I want this countdown to be queer focused you might say so I am learning more towards the story being about their sexuality in some way or another. older films I am a bit more lenient because well there were legals issues with making these kind of films in pre-code era and somehow some still got made even if most didn't out right say the word "Gay" in them.
Some I am allowing older not quite super "Gay" but I think should be included.
Rebecca (1940)
Rope (1948)
Strangers on a Train (1951)
Rebel Without a Cause (1955)
Cat on a Hot Tin Roof (1958) (this one is pretty obviously imo)
Midnight Cowboy (1969)
My best Friends Wedding (1997) (basically my first exposure to a gay person, watching it when I was 6 and somehow already knew I was gay then, I know not that old, but it's pretty gay imo even if the two leads are not)
Here are some lists to refresh your memory:
https://letterboxd.com/walypala/list/2023-coming-out-list-queer-gay-bi-les-trans/
https://letterboxd.com/mundof/list/pride-a-chronological-history-of-queer-interest/
I am saying 50, but if there is enough lists sent in I may do 100. (it will take longer if I do though so well see)
I will be doing a weight list of top 10, 25, 50, 75, and 100, the more longer lists the better.
Top 10
Spoiler1. 100 2. 85 3. 70 4. 60 5. 50 6. 40 7. 30. 8. 20 9. 10 10. 1
Top 25
Spoiler1- 100 2. 90 3. 80 4. 70 5. 60 6-8- 50 9-12- 40 13-16- 30 17-20- 20 21- 15 22- 10 23- 5 24- 3 25- 1
Top 50
Spoiler1- 100 2- 95 3- 90 4- 85 5- 80 6- 75 7- 70 8- 65 9- 60 10- 50 11-15- 45 16-20- 40 21-25- 35 26-30- 30 31-35- 25 36-40- 20 41-43- 15 44-46- 10 47- 8 48- 5 49- 3 50- 1
Top 75
Spoiler1- 100 2- 98 3- 95 4- 93 5- 90 6- 88 7- 86 8- 84 9- 82 10- 80 11- 77 12- 74 13- 71 14- 68 15- 65 16- 62 17- 59 18- 56 19- 53 20- 50 21-25- 46 26-30- 42 31-35- 38 36-40- 34 41-45- 30 46-50- 25 51-55- 20 56-60- 15 61-65- 10 66-68- 8 69-71- 5 72- 4 73- 3 74- 2 75- 1
Top 100
1- 100
2-99
3- 98
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100- 1
Please be kind and don't insult anyone, their identity sexuality etc in this thread. (or anywhere tbh)
I will have a tentative deadline of August 1st, 2023.
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On 6/19/2023 at 1:16 AM, joselowe said:
I love how confident everyone was here ahead of time for how this was going to be the biggest box office film of the summer and now those same people have changed their tune and trying to dissect the quality of the film.
I wasn't I thought it would struggle to the $100m mark and it is.
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20 hours ago, Sophie said:
Don't take it the wrong way, I'd very much like to be wrong about Barbie.
Y'know... it's a little off topic, but speaking of these films, do you think there's a chance that Haunted Mansion won't be able to crack the top 2 against these two films' second week?
Yeah, Disney is in trouble, I could seeing Haunted Mansion opening to about $12m opening weekend and both Oppenheimer and Barbie should easily be over $20m in their second weekends.
Looking something like this
Barbie OW $75,000,000
Oppenheimer OW $53,000,000
W2
Barbie $38,000,000
Oppenheimer $26,500,000
Haunted Mansion $12,000,000
W3
Barbie $29,000,000
Oppenheimer $19,500,000
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44 minutes ago, Belakor said:
Sorry but this looks like a cheap CW movie, harsh truth, I saw the trailer on cinema and the CGI looks horrible.
Whats with terrible CGI on CBM nowadays? the only CGI I have seen that is half decent was in The Batman.
GOTG VOL 3 had good CGI. But yeah Flash and Ant-Man 3 had some pretty awful CGI.
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12 hours ago, excel1 said:
Black Adam shouldn't be viewed as a bomb tbh, nobody knew or gave af about that character
I know, Honestly I thought it did about what I thought it should have considering the character, did they really expect a $250m+ hit from a character that nobody cares about?
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So I saw it today and it was actually pretty good, best DCEU film since Aquaman (which I loved) probably. but some of CGI was just beyond cringe worthy. it was so bad I kind of wondered if it was some kind of visual style they were going for.
I am not a fan of Miller at all as a person, but I was for the most part able to put aside most of my bias and he did a really good job imo and is quite talented. I really hope he truly is trying to get his life back in order, he has been given more chances than most people are.
Keaton was great and the girl who play super girl. and this movie is actually very funny and not in a cringy mcu way.
As for it's Box office, I think it was basically just a perfect storm of everything going against it, Ezra's past action's did not help, but also the DCEU being "canceled" is what hurt this movie the most imo, as well as DC not having the best track record. it really would have had to have out of this world wom to break all that and it's "good" for a DCEU film is not even. although I'm not sure I believe that B cinema score. it was much better than Black Adam and Shazam 2... Aquaman will probably hurt the least from it, but I still see that dropping to sub $200-$250m dom.
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1 hour ago, Sophie said:
Even if that 250M dom number came true, you really think Barbie of all things would have a 35/65 split?
I still don't see Barbie making much at all. Seems like something perfectly tuned to get a ton of online attention and very little interest from General audiences.
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What about Barbie? if all the hype and buzz is real. it could hit $250m+ dom what is it international potential?
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1 hour ago, ChipDerby said:
Curious who you heard this from. Because I don't recall anyone actually saying that. Are they in the room with us right now?
I don't know, John Campera maybe. I and thought I heard a report from early test screenings that it was like amazing.
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Why did I l keep hearing for months this was suppose to be like "The Best Superhero film ever?" only to see it barely go fresh now...
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January:
1.8.23 I Wanna Dance With Somebody B+
1.10.23 M3gan A-
1.16.23 The Whale B+
1.22.23 Puss in Boots The Last Wish A
1.26.23 A Man Called Otto B+
February:
2.2.23 The Chosen Season 3 final A+ (1)
2.5.23 Knock at the Cabin B+ (1)
2.14.23 Magic Mike's Last Dance C
2.16.23 Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantomania B (3)
2.19.23 Of an Age A
2.23.23 Jesus Revolution A-
March:
3.5.23 Cocaine Bear A-
3.12.23 65 B+
3.19.23 Shazam! Fury of the Gods B+ (4)
3.21.23 Scream VI A-
3.27.23 Creed III A-
3.30.23 Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves B+ (1)
April:
4.2.23 His Only Son B
4.6.23 The Super Mario Bros Movie A
4.17.23 Suzume B+
4.20.23 Renfield B+
4.23.23 Guy Richie's The Covenant A
4.30.23 Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (40th Anniversary re-release) A+
May:
4th Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3. A+
12th Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3. A+
25th The Little Mermaid B+
June:
5th Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse A
Total: 27
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48 minutes ago, YM! said:
TLM is doing 300m domestically, and with the % of Caucasian audience decreased in general since the pandemic (Top Gun and Guardians are the only example of 40%+). The problem isn’t right wing america having a hissy fit but rather the fact that Disney Plus is entirely too convenient. The Plus numbers only fell worldwide literally due to Cricket, Disney actually has gained subscribers here in the states. In addition to that, when most of Pixar’s films this decade has gone to the plus, it trains your audience.
Yes that is a big problem too. But yes the right is throwing a hissy fit. Most of my family is conservative and none of them will see a Disney movie in theaters right now. It may only be 10 15 percent of thier audience. But that is a decent chunk on top of several other factors.
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At this point, I do think there is a bit of prejudiced against the Company. they haven't really had a quality hit film since "Encanto" (Turning Red was good imo but audiences were torn on it) (Marvel doesn't really count imo), and on top of that they alienated a portion of potential customers by choosing a side politically. I mean they also kind of have, but they are much more bullish about it. Most people will over look this if the product is extremally high quality. And lately they just aren't that good. and other studios have taken notice and used that as an opportunity to show their films. Anyways back to elemental. it just doesn't look that good or original. every time I see a trailer for it I just think "Inside Out' rip-off and that's not good. and I just don't see this doing that well, especially now that Spider-Verse is blowing up massively. $80-$120m. unless it gets rave reviews, which so far it is not. maybe $140m tops.
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1 minute ago, Webslinger said:
I feel like an Uncharted sequel would be a big mistake. Uncharted's success absolutely feels like a right movie at the right time situation between coming two months after No Way Home and opening in a marketplace that had been light on broadly-appealing action movies since, well, No Way Home. The fact that it did well on Netflix also reinforces my thinking that it felt like a Netflix movie that somehow got lucky and slipped through the cracks into the studio system. A drop for a hypothetical sequel seems like it would be inevitable.
It would be. if they ever touch that franchise again, they need to get the original writers involved and actually put some effort into making a faithful adaption with proper casting. Not some copy and paste cooperate adventure movie starring the actor of the week.
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6 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:
They are getting some some underpaid intern updating it. Sadly BOM is a shadow of what it was. Back in nougties with Brandon and others was something special. I dont think we will ever recreate something like that. These days most updates happen through a tweet 🙂
Yeah it has gone severely down hill since theaters were shutdown in 2020 and was probably on the decline a couple years before that. It used to be one of my favorite websites of all time, and now they have glitches and mistakes all the time, and no weekend rundown article. it's sad.
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11 minutes ago, harrisonisdead said:
The RT audience score is pretty much right in line with the Cinemascore and PostTrak score. And it's funny to say IMDb and Letterboxd are somehow better when neither have any form of verification system and both are still perfectly vulnerable to the same self-selection biases that RT audience scores have.
Regardless, RT audience score has tended to line up pretty closely with the less biased metrics of Cinemascore and PostTrak, so as far as a way to measure general audience reception, it's more useful than IMDb or Letterboxd. You may find your opinions tend to line up more with the latter two, but one person's opinion doesn't say much about the box office.
Maybe not, but it's somewhat front-loaded opening weekend does. family films like this usually are way more back-loaded and it's already showing signs of slow-down.
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9 minutes ago, jedijake said:
Okay, so you're saying it's all one big conspiracy.
You seem to be taking my opinion a bit too seriously. why do you feel so defensive about this? it's fine that you like the movie. I liked the movie to an extant. I am soo beyond tired of everyone putting everyone in a box conspiracy theorist bull shit. I am not saying that at all, brother, I'm saying it's not universally loved, its WoM is probably not even nearly as good as SUPER MARIO BROS. it is getting fine passable mixed to positive WoM, that is what I am saying, and I believe that it is not positive enough to drawl huge crowds and massive return visits. I honestly don't know why you feel like I am attacking you or something. can people just have a difference of opinion for once?
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17 minutes ago, jedijake said:
So you're saying that the 95% is fake and most of those verified reviews are fake? And cinemascore is fake? Is that what you are implying?
I think some of the lower ratings are being taking down to bring it's ratings up yes. they basically already admitted to doing that to anything that could be the target of review bombing. which some of them maybe are. but not all. and I am saying that that is a tiny sample of people who see the movie. most people don't go to rotten tomatoes to rate a film right after seeing it, I don't. Letterboxd is a better place imo. and to a lessor extent IMDB. to see what people actaully think of it that and just asking people what they thought of it in public.
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Just now, jedijake said:
WOM not great? It has a solid 95% audience rating. How is that "not great"?
ON Rotten Tomatoes?
that's not an audience score, that's a micro sampling of the real world. and some of the reviews are probably being sifted through right now. also I saw the movie. aside from the two leads the movie as a lot of issues and just isn't as great as it should be.
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$117m 4-Opening is fine. you people need to chill. sure it didn't make that coveted $100m+ 3-day opening, but there is alot in play for that. it's much more female friendly than most Disney films, it's reviews and WoM, while not awful, is not great either and people seem pretty mixed on weather they like it or not. And how many great Disney live action re-makes have there been? 2 maybe? they are tired of what is being perceived as laziness. I don't think swapping Ariel's race had much impact tbh. and Hailey was great so.
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On 5/4/2023 at 2:20 PM, joselowe said:
Box Office Pro is predicting $70 million
https://www.boxofficepro.com/long-range-box-office-forecast-disneys-the-little-mermaid/
That seems low, imo The Little Mermaid, is right below BATB in terms of appeal. the live action remake brand not having the best track record may keep it from those $450m+ numbers, but it would be pretty disappointing if this movie failed to reach $300m.
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24 minutes ago, Cap said:
Them playing Florence + The Machine at the end was such a personal attack when they hit “2000s”. I was like… that song is NOT that old. I am not that old 😞
So glad they played it though, I think it might be the first time a guardians of the galaxy had a song in it that was already one of my all time favorite songs, before I saw the movie.
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that's not an audience score, that's a micro sampling of the real world. and some of the reviews are probably being sifted through right now. also I saw the movie. aside from the two leads the movie as a lot of issues and just isn't as great as it should be.
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Yu Tu totally does they have gay sex in the end lol. I probably am not including Black Swan on my list. You can. Was the gay stuff a dream sequence. I can't remember? I just don't want the list to include a ton of not really "GAY" films when there are a ton of really good ones that are. I will probably include Rebecca on mine though. I would say as long as your list is 80+ percent explicitly LGBT then you can add other "sort of" LGBT films to it. everything Everywhere all at once technically qualifies as well. And I love that movie. But it's not really the main focus on the movie so I am unsure about including it on my list.