Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  2. I guess Kathleen Kennedy has lived long enough to see herself become the villain -- until she fires Colin Trevorrow off IX, that is, and everyone loves her again. Lord and Miller were pretty much the only reason I was excited about the film at all. They are the kings of taking what seem to be unworkable concepts and making them sing. It seems like both Gareth Edwards and L&M delivered exactly the sorts of films their previous works suggested they would. Why does Lucasfilm keep getting surprised by this?
  3. So, the Sony-MCU Spider-Man films are basically going to be the "Marvel Team-Up" of superhero films? I am OK with that. (I have a good number of these comics in a box in my attic.)
  4. The reports I'm seeing out there are saying that Lord and Miller were fired because they refused to collaborate with another director Lucasfilm wanted to bring in to work on reshoots. Sounds like Rogue One. If Gareth Edwards had insisted on directing all the reshoots himself, maybe he would have gotten the boot as well.
  5. And there were only three weeks left to shoot?!? This is beyond bizarre.
  6. Now, that is pretty damn stunning news. Directors leaving in the middle of shooting such a high-profile project. (This will lead to further panic about Trevorrow directing IX, I'm guessing -- as well as calls for him to be fired.)
  7. *Raises right hand* "I swear I will not watch any more Last Jedi trailers, so help me The Force."
  8. Is this the first time a film with this big a budget has held the review embargo until literally the time of the first U.S. screening? I could definitely see this becoming a trend from the studios complaining about the impact of a bad R.T. score on opening weekend. Better to take the hit from having no reviews online than to have a concrete score the audience can look at and decide the film is a turkey and skip it.
  9. Wonder Woman as the top superhero film for the year domestically would be something else. Pretty much a dream scenario for WB and for anyone hoping this could lead to more diversity in front of and behind the cameras on these films.
  10. I think it's fine to criticize the work itself in terms of how it might echo problems that still exist in the portrayal of women in media today, but the level of vitriol and hate that seems to be coming Joss Whedon's way because of it seems very unfair, since this was just a first draft that never got made, written under circumstances and restrictions we aren't familiar with. Plus, it was written 11 years ago. I have certainly learned and grown and progressed in my views on gender issues and equality in that time. (I shudder to think of the stupid things I might have said in a conversation about them a decade ago.) I would like to think Whedon has as well. But, whatever you think of Whedon, judge him on his finished work. It's not like there's a shortage of that.
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