Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. Rather sad to read in that article that IX was going to be Leia's film in the same sense VII was Han's and VIII is Luke's.
  2. Suspect I'm going to be glad I haven't watched any Homecoming trailers. Sony seems to lose their minds when it comes to marketing these last few Spidey films. Strategy: Show every bit of footage that could possibly get anyone into the theater to watch it. Actual experience of watching the film itself be damned.
  3. I'm not sure Whedon will ever have a bigger impact than he did by creating Buffy. I see a lot of show runners in interviews citing Buffy as a major influence. You can just look at the sheer volume of genre shows that copy the way he structured Buffy's seasons, and see how influential it was.
  4. We will clearly know the impact Whedon had when we can count up the number of tropes subverted and dead love interests/broken romances.
  5. @iJackSparrow, just a friendly recommendation for the readability of your posts. A paragraph break every five or six lines would help prevent that Wall of Text effect that your longer posts fall prey to. It's not very inviting to the reader.
  6. I hope this explodes and we start seeing a saturation of female-led superhero films. Way past time.
  7. Oh, that is a giant certainty. I think it's almost 100 percent guaranteed, though, that when Whedon makes his first comments about this, he's going to make it clear that he is just helping to realize Snyder's vision, not reshaping the film to his own desires. That won't stop the grousing about who wrote what line and who directed what scene, though. No helping that.
  8. I also think this is a slightly different scenario than, for instance, talking about what Carrie Fisher's death means for Episode VIII two hours after she died. This deeply tragic news is a couple months old. If it had been announced two months ago, no one would think it would be out of bounds to talk about what it means for the film itself now, two months later. It's only because we're learning of it now that there's an instinct to not discuss that out of respect for Snyder and his family. But, really, it's just as much out of respect for everyone else's shock at the news. And people are going to understandably be more or less sensitive to that, just based on how they're built. Putting an official moratorium in the thread of one or two days before actually discussing what the news means for production might forestall any arguments about it.
  9. Wow. So, it's possible to feel just terrible on one hand for a personal tragedy, and hopeful on the other about what this will mean for the film itself. Good luck to Snyder coping with such a loss. Good luck to Whedon taking over the ship and delivering a good film.
  10. Apparently, another trailer is coming this week for Homecoming. (I assume this one will be setting out the task of revealing all salient plot points for Ragnarok and Infinity War.)
  11. If reviews are really going to be that strong, WB should drop the review embargo. That's the kind of momentum you want to start to let build ASAP with a little over a week until release. But certainly understandable that they would be skittish about it given the DCEU's history in that regard.
  12. Nice. I liked the prior logo sequence better, though. And shortening it wouldn't hurt.
  13. This could be similar to Doctor Strange, where see a pretty high RT percentage, but a lower average relative to that percentage, where most of the mixed reviews tilt positive.
  14. Sampling various opinion online, it seems Ridley Scott managed to make a film just as divisive as Prometheus. It's kind of fascinating to see.
  15. That would fall right in line with The First Avenger reviews, a film which also had third act problems, but got its main character so, so right.