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3 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:
December 2017 will be interesting if Cameron really does have Avatar 2 ready for that date. It's only a matter of time before Disney announced VIII for that release, and releasing the two together would be crazy stupid. SW wouldn't budge though and Cameron loves his December releases, so I'd imagine Avatar 2 isn't coming until December 2018 whether its ready or not.
I thought VIII was releasing in May 2017. Do you think they're going to move it to December?
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Over tomorrow, Avatar's reign will be, and not short enough it was
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If episode VIII holds up then I think IX will have a chance. It'll need a December release, but I don't think the dates will line up for a DEC 17-19 release.
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5 minutes ago, DarthArachnid!™ said:
I just can't believe with some of the supposed tentpole films(Hobbit, I'm looking at you) that were released at the same point TFA was didn't break a record SM2 broke during the July 4th Holiday. That also goes for the TF films that were released at the same time of year as SM2(One even with the same calendar configuration- Adjusted for inflation Dark of the Moon doesn't even go over 20m for 6 days and it had 3D). Hollywood had plenty of opportunities, inflation and 3D upcharges to squeeze over 20m out of a film for 7+ consecutive days and other than SM2, none of them could get past five until TFA.
Adjust SM2 to 2016 those 6 days are over 30m. And we're talking about 20m per day here, not 30m.
I took a closer look at SM2, and it has a rather rare case. Opening on Wednesday June 30, it has the benefit of the July 4 holiday happening on Monday July 5. This gives it 2 weekdays then a long summer weekend. It's still crazy that those numbers all adjust to 30m+, but I think it was in the perfect position to get 6 days.
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4 minutes ago, e1828 said:
This is Spider-Man 2, which opened on a Wednesday and had the benefit of a holiday Monday.
Spiderman only had 3 days. Look at my list on page 81 to see all the movies with at least 5 (not just TDK).
For some reason I read all of the # - #'s as ranges instead of installment # -> # days.
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10 minutes ago, DarthArachnid!™ said:
Wow. I'm not sure what I'm more impressed by, that TFA beat the old record by 11 days, or that the record stood for over 11 years.
Spiderman only had 3 days. I've found TDK had 5. Wednesday / Thursday is tricky business. Remember Avengers and JW (barely) were during school weeks.
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1 minute ago, e1828 said:
For consecutive days $30+ million, this is currently quite a boring list as it simply consists of:
1) Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 6
At least 20 other movies - 3
damn you christmas eve
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1 minute ago, tokila said:
my rants are more directed at http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm
than at people want to know total tickets sales.
yeah. that chart is far from perfect. I just don't believe GWTW made $189m in 1939. Reading the wiki article on the movie actually states that for the first 8ish months, only advance tickets were sold, and they were sold for over double a normal ticket's price, at $1. It also states there were many many releases in the following decades, much more than only the 3 that BOM has registered.
I'm sure other movies on that list have their own inaccuracies.
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2 minutes ago, tokila said:
The install base would be those who go to movies. The screens would be available retailers. With gaming now pretty much everything is available digital so essentially there is no constraint on availability. For movies some places dont have good access to a movie theater, the same areas also might be more limited with internet access.
I was just simply making a point using a fairly over the top example. Maybe it would have been better to say cheaper digital game on the PS4 sells 3 million at 9.99, and a full priced game sells 1.5 million on 5X the budget.
And with Spiderman example, again yes it did not have the advantage that TFA has in IMAX screens, but it had other advantage. Like at the time hi-speed internet was not wipespead, this lowered piracy and the option people had to stream digital, also people did not have affordable 60 inch LED tvs in their houses, so seeing it in normal 2D then was a massive gap between waiting to see it on DVD (or VHS for many people at that point still). I am not discrediting SM, I am just saying you can't take properly adjust the advantages each era has over each other. That is what you are doing when you discredit an IMAX ticket sale as a simple ticket sale.
Some people just like to know the number of tickets sold. It's impossible to accommodate all environmental factors in the time period each movie is released in to get a perfect comparison, so we have various methods we can measure (e.g. total gross, est tickets, gross adj for inflation). None are perfect and each may tend to favor a different portion of history.
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Just now, grey ghost said:
It's purple.
I figured my computer screen was being defective.
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Which one is better?
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2 minutes ago, tokila said:
shouldn't IMAX ticket count twice as much as a 2D ticket. They cost 2X as much and show people are willing to pay more to see this particular movie, but yet when you just go by a simple tickets sold you strip away one thing that set this movie apart. People are willing to pay more to see it.
This is why simple ticket counts as dumb.
If IMAX existed back in the 70s and 80s then those movies would have gotten a monetary boost as well. This is trying to compensate for that to an as close to apples-to-apples comparison. Nothing will be perfect though.
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17 minutes ago, #ED said:
No OS Actual?
those usually take longer to report than domestic
6 minutes ago, VGPOP said:$42.9 million weekend (-47.5% drop)
That would be a 52.5% drop. I see it doing closer to ~$48 million (46.8% drop)
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2 minutes ago, blackspider said:
To my admission connoisseurs (Red, spizzer), any idea where it's at right now? I'd venture around 60m by now so it probably passed Sith yesterday.
Do we have an idea on 3D share of TFA?
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57 minutes ago, JohnnY said:
imax (and now this plf) completely messes my perception of ticket sales... is it so hard for theaters to report the number of tickets?
Some foreign countries will report in ticket sales. Would be great if US did that too.
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13 minutes ago, FlashMaster659 said:
How many admissions does SW7 need to surpass Snow White 1937 to become the highest attended Disney movie of all time?
According to BOM Snow White sold 109m tickets. This total would put SW7 somewhere around $850-875m. Crazily that seems pretty locked up at this point.
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Saw a trailer for this before JW, looks meh. Similar to others here I wasn't fond of the shady guy and the dad's secret message or whatever.
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So I finally caught up on this damn thread and while the reactions to the estimates were awesome to see (or read) the last 50 or so pages were just not worth anyone's time. The fact of the matter is that this is still an incredible number for AoU and we should all consider ourselves lucky that Rth occasionally drops by to provide his estimates.
I was thinking about reading to catch up, thanks for the heads up.
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Empire Strikes Back is winning this thing. No doubt in my mind.
that's the spirit
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Hmm Oz actually didn't do too bad haha. Forgot about that.
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Someone tell me if he's liking my stuff.
click your bell
I know you want to
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Ps CJohn you should read part 8 and 9 of Forum Games. Bay was my biggest influence in it and I think your body would ready. Too many explosions in there to count.
So many explosions Jandrew had to post an analysis for us.
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It's good that you want to watch movies. But shows like Breaking Bad, Hannibal, the Americans, Fargo have given me more satisfaction than any movies released in the last few years. And there have been some great movies.
A good TV show can build story arcs and suspense much bigger / better than a movie can.
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8M TFA Rth Monday number!!! SW7 has surpassed TA1 & F7 for 4th alltime WW!!!
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I'm just afraid we're going to get some series fatigue with VIII, IX, RO, Han Solo movie, and probably others too all coming out within the next 3 years.. I would have been OK with a 2-3 year gap between at least the major episodic releases.