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You haven't answered my question... But I guess the conversation is not worth pursuing, neither for me, nor for you.You're right, Maleficent isn't deep. But it also isn't fun. It's just drabbly serious
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Were people involved genuinely saying a "deep" re-imagining? They said re-imagining, for sure, but "deep"? I know Jolie spoke about a rape metaphor but this is more linked with her non-film activities (chairing the conference on rape etc.) than with the marketing for Maleficent. And even if they were, were people here believing that and expecting it to be a "deep" movie? This was essentially always going to be in the vein of Alice and Oz, neither of which is regarded as a "deep" movie. It is directed by a production designer and so visuals were always likely to be the (only) strong point. It is moreover aimed at small children.And is the hatred towards Maleficent genuinely driven by a disappointment over lack of "depth"? Are people here going to the cinema and coming back claiming "oh dear, why was there no high-level philosophical discussion in there"?because Transformers isn't pretending to be something deeper than it is. Everyone involved with Maleficent is all "we're trying to give a deep re-imagining of the classic villain" when in actuality, the movie means nothing and is mindnumbing. Transformers is just as mindnumbing, but you don't see Michael Bay saying in interviews that it's gonna be a deep movie with tons of intriguing themes
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Transformers (or does that count as an unintentional comedy?) is my example. A movie currently boasting a RT score which is almost a third of Maleficent's and yet, being targeted at young males, apparently being spared the level of virulent hatred Maleficent gets. I'm not saying it does not get any hatred, but some members seem to be of the "who-cares-about-the-rest-as-long-as-the-explosions-are-good" persuasion, while Maleficent gets called an abomination. Why are they turning a blind eye for Transformers but not for Maleficent? Even better, why can't they understand that others (say, its target audience) may be turning a blind eye for Maleficent?Find a non-comedy example. Then we can talk
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I thought Metacritic was generally regarded as more accurate round here. But I can look for other examples, if you want.Edit: And comedy being much more subjective is...subjective.To be fair, comedy is much more subjective than any other film genre.And Horrible Bosses schools Maleficent on RT
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Any prediction for final numbers?Yes.
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Do you think it will beat Rio 2 OS in the end?
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Sorry but this forces me to reply. The lack of posts derives from the fact that there was no information on the movie. It's not a big franchise with constant rumours pushing the thread on across hundreds of pages. When the trailer for HB2 was released, many people claimed they enjoyed the first movie, which is an example of leniency towards a movie with pretty much the same negative critical reception as Maleficent (at least as recorded by Metacritic) from a group of individuals which may be regarded as part of the target audience of the former but not the latter. Again, we never talked about numbers.you seem to be unable to understand.
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Sure? It seems to me that people here actually said they loved the movie so I thought that a huge success would be welcome. But there's no need to drag this conversation so I'll stop.people are lenient because HB wasn't a huge success, like Maleficent. If Horrible Bosses grossed 250m, you would see this thread implode of hatred.
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You asked for an example of leniency towards a badly-received movie of which this board may be the target audience. I provided one. We never talked about numbers.Horrible Bosses 2 have 8 pages, the thread was created two years ago, I think the numbers speaks for itself.
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Oh the tragedy of different opinions!I tried with my cousin, but I failed and she ended up loving the film
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Transformers, just one page ago.Oh, and some days ago the board seemed generally happy about a sequel to Horrible Bosses, a movie with pretty much the same score as Maleficent on Metacritic.No. please, examples.
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Or perhaps this board is not part of its target audience and is therefore exaggerating the hatred while being noticeably more lenient towards other equally or more terrible movies of which it is the target audience?it's a terrible movie, all the hate is deserved.
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The hatred for Maleficent is reaching baroque levels.TF4 is a masterpiece compared to Maleficent. Go Bay, win the damn Summer.
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This looks a lot like the Wall-E clips.
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The movie is still in theatres in the US and the DVD was released in March.Why would people go to see the movie after they have the DVD? To sing along? Japanese girls are so weird..
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With $15,488,531 Maleficent passes X-Men and becomes the third highest grossing summer blockbuster of the year so far in Germany. It should soon beat Amazing Spider-Man. This week it outgrosses both Oz ($15,222,137) and Snow White and the Huntsman ($15,084,870).
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I can't stop looking at the background. Too funny.- 2
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Is this having some kind of legs? Is Planes going to murder it?HTTYD2 (-36.2%)
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Perhaps Maleficent can stay above $1m?
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Is 20m admissions possible? That would be a nice round number.Frozen updateWeekend - 138,319 adm. - 181.12M YenTotal - 19,358,864 adm. - 24.628B Yen
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Good that there's someone who cares.True story: I haven't seen any news on the Florida kid getting detained in Israel on any of the network stations in my area. True shame
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It had 14 new territories this week, according to Deadline. It may be a little bit from some or all of them.Dang, that sucks. But as far as countries whose weekend totals were reported, Australia and Brazil held from the earlier estimates, and France INCREASED a little bit, so other than Mexico dropping from estimates, I wonder what territories lost it $3.5m.(Or did someone at Fox put UK preview grosses into the original reported total, then change their mind and take them out so they could be held over to beef up next weekend's wide UK opening number? Eh, probably not...)
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I agree. Incredibles 2 feels more "natural".While Incredibles is not as popular as Finding Nemo, I just think it will be easier for Pixar to create a quality Incredibles 2 than a Finding Dory, I mean, Incredibles seems to be built as a franchise, like Toy Story and Monsters Inc. In Finding Dory, it just seems to have a the same storyline as Finding Nemo, though this time it is Dory that is lost.
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