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Sony didn't give the movie an early screening, not endearing it to critics, you have to be suspicious of the RT score
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Think Like a Man Too is sinking faster than the Titanic
. They believed the press clippings, and ignored the fact that April is a dumping ground for non competitive straight-to-video level competition. Cap 2 had "700 Club" and "Wild Kingdom" as fearsome competitors and cleaned up.So they moved to June, and welcome to the JUNGLE, kids . Suddenly theres competition for that non-niche general audience. Its looking to barely crack 70M. Stick to late autumn and Jan-April, where credible competition can be safely avoided.-
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Movies like Think Like a Man do well in desolate stretches of the late fall and spring. Dumping grounds for direct-to-video level competition. Where it basically doesn't have to compete for the general audience outside the niche. They got a little excited with the original, tried the summer, and JUST didn't see the tsunami of more credible competition
. The GA that had no other choices last time have a flood of competitors.-
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Russia is a BIG deal. You can make a lot of money there. Not on China's level, but good money. France and Italy are a big deal. Australia. For Cap 2 to fall flat in these markets should be very SOBERING to you fanboys!
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Cap 2 surpassed Thor 2's OS box office, as I SAID it eventually will, but the point is that Winter Soldier is almost dead anyway! This isn't IM3 pulling in 800M OS, this is barely more than what Thor 2 did! And I said Cap 2 isn't an ELITE blockbuster. Fanboys in this thread are treating it as such. Compared to the near bomb of 2011 it is, LMFAO! if THATS the standard you're using, Cap 2 is the movie of the century
!Transformers, Hobbit 3, and Hunger Games 3 will show you the standard that Cap 2 won't even sniff. Struggling to eclipse 700M and underperforming in various OS markets isn't a license to proclaim this franchises "superiority" over Thor. In fact there's some troubling results outside of China and SK that will give Feige some concerns. -
How am I a troll? I'm a fan of a Marvel character (not necessarily Marvel Studios as a whole), I'm bringing up valid statistics and numbers! Dont take your ball and run away
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"Plus Thor 3 is going down with mediocre WOM for 2nd one. So they wont be in the same ballpark next time around."This is the DUMBEST logic I've ever heard. There's a HUGE possibility that there will be good WOM for Thor going into Thor 3 DESPITE Thor 2. Know why? Thor's next appearance ISN'T Thor 3...its the BILLION DOLLAR franchise, The Avengers. A good Thor showing here-and a good WOM of the movie overall-wipes out any taste of Thor 2 from moviegoer's mouths.Its like saying Cap 2011 killed Cap 2, and Iron Man 2 killed IM3, SMH...one Avengers movie ERASED any memory of the previous solo outings. Plus, word is out that Marvel Studios is being silent on Thor 3's placement because they're really trying to get it right and hit one out the park this time. It has nothing to do with Marvel's perception of the franchise. Cap has yet to beat Thor 2's overseas total, and will only BARELY do so. 33% of Cap's OS total is from TWO markets, indicating a fluke, while Thor is WAY more widespread across the circuit. The hype frenzy, in the end, will only buy Cap 40-50 more than Thor 2...that IT...we're not talking an IM3 difference here. Cap should have done 2 billion of the unanimous critic support and brouhaha. This with Thor 2 facing the domestic draw of the YEAR and Cap having competition that anyone could beat. Feige is well aware of this, trust me
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I'm not trolling, and it IS TRUE. Bears...and I'm a NatGeo and nature nut and I saw the movie...but this isn't a film that should be anywhere near Cap 2. Heaven is for Real, God's not Dead, Transcendence...RIO 2 was a "B" animated title. Half the net knows Cap 2 had a month of a direct-to-video wasteland. Get this idea of Cap 2 as an unstopopable juggernaut out of your head. Transformers, Hunger Games 3, and Hobbit 3 (and Spidey 2) will come out and SHOW you what an ELITE BLOCKBUSTER does. Cap 2 will wind up with a "middle of the road" performance. A little better than Thor 2 domestically, and look at overseas! Its looking to barely beat Thor 2's 438M! Its made LESS money than Thor 2 in MOST of the markets on the overseas circuit! This off of unanimous critics support, unanimous word of mouth, and doormat competition! An elite blockbuster pulls in a billion easily of that competition! The minute Cap 2 went up against a movie with ANY kind of draw, it got HAMMERED!So come off your high horse, and realize that BvS will make over a billion, and Cap 3 will get MURDERED if they keep it head to head! This isn't Bears again. This is a showdown with an ELITE boxoffice draw! Something Cap 2 comfortably avoided!I don't concern myself with trolls but this isn't even remotely true.You're failing here big time.
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I dont believe thats true, but even if it was, your "more markets will be added tomorrow" that you tucked in seems to indicate that you realize that its a small number of markets compared to the ones Thor 2 made moreYou are right Tower, that's not true. According to BOM, as of last Sunday TWS was already beating TDW's final tally in China, Ecuador, Hong Kong, India, Israel, Mexico, South Korea, Thailand, United Arabs Emirates, Uruguay and Viet Nam. More markets will be added to this list tomorrow and at the end of next weekend
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Uh...giving a superhero movie obscure early November slot, to be a sacrificial lamb to Hunger Games isn't giving something "precedence". That would be placing it a month before may against direct-to-video competition, and guest starring half of SHIELDBest way to look at things is how Marvel views both CA and Thor. They have already announce CA3 and its releasing ahead of Thor 3 despite Thor getting precedence 1st couple of movies. Plus Thor 3 is going down with mediocre WOM for 2nd one. So they wont be in the same ballpark next time around.
. It is CAP that got precedence. Its a bit presumptuous to predict 2.5 years from now, but if Cap 3 opens anywhere near BvS, it will do the same or A LOT LESS than Thor 3.You gotta remember, Cap 3 had laughable competition, is barely beating Thor 2's overseas total, and will ONLY make a slight gain over Dark World overall! This wasnt a super-duper-blockbuster performance!
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Sigh...its the rounded off percentage China+SK to Cap 2's current 420M overseas total.
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33%...33%...a third...a third...
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Is Cap 2's overseas total a LITTLE tainted, because 25-30% of it is from just China and South Korea, and it made LESS than Thor 2 EVERYWHERE ELSE on the overseas circuit?! There may be a little nation or island that I missed, but Thor 2 made more in like 99% of the territories outside of China and South Korea. Its why Cap 2 is barely squeeking by Thor 2's 438M total. It says that Cap 2 caught fire in China and SK, but it also says its a little premature to call the franchise completely accepted overseas. What happens when Cap 3 faces serious competition China and SK next time around? Two countries is putting all the eggs in one or two baskets.
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!Transformers, Hobbit 3, and Hunger Games 3 will show you the standard that Cap 2 won't even sniff. Struggling to eclipse 700M and underperforming in various OS markets isn't a license to proclaim this franchises "superiority" over Thor. In fact there's some troubling results outside of China and SK that will give Feige some concerns.
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