Eric Deetz
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19 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:
Didn't understand the parent outage back then, compared to now when The Batman is way more violent and parent groups don't make a fuss. I guess everyone is desensitized to violence now after the 100th PG-13 superhero film.
It was mainly the sexual content. It's always the sexual content. You can show a character maiming and killing hundreds of bad guys, but if you dare to have a nakey, or even less than that in cases where a character is LGBT, then it's too much for these poor innocent children.
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Just now, CheeseWizard said:
Wait TFOne at 47? I thought it was 43 just yesterday
Also 25% of 30mil? That sounds like the original estimates of 30-40 mil for the opening weekend arent happening are they!
Yeah. It was at 43 yesterday (technically Thursday). Quorum does new surveys all the time to track how movies are tracking. That's why they change all the time.
As for the latter point, that is very premature to say. We are more than a week away, and the Awareness and Interest data is going to change. It will likely change to something more favorable once we get closer to release. If it gets above 50% by the end of its run, which I am quite confident in, then it will have a 74% chance of reaching 30M. I suggest that for next time that you be patient and do not automatically jump to conclusions. This does not help anybody and just derails the thread.
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12 hours ago, Eric Deetz said:
Got the trailer in front of Strange Darling and I am so seated...assuming this comes to my local theaters of course.
Oh snap, this is coming to my theater after all. Alrighty. Can't wait to be the only one in the theater who actually likes it.
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Quorum Updates
Megalopolis T-18: 18.1% Awareness, 39.19% Interest
Here T-53: 13.9% Awareness, 40.23% Interest
Y2K T-88: 17.04% Awareness, 39.93% Interest
Sonic the Hedgehog 3 T-102: 48.26% Awareness, 50.26% Interest
The Killer's Game T-4: 27.32% Awareness, 43.98% Interest
Final Awareness: 17% chance of 10M
Low Awareness: 13% chance of 10M
Final Interest: 45% chance of 10M
Low Interest: 33% chance of 10M
Speak No Evil T-4: 39.6% Awareness, 49.32% Interest
Final Awareness: 40% chance of 10M
Horror Awareness: 41% chance of 10M
Final Interest: 45% chance of 10M
Horror Interest: 42% chance of 10M
Never Let Go T-11: 28.7% Awareness, 45.84% Interest
Final Awareness: 17% chance of 10M
Horror Awareness: 27% chance of 10M
Final Interest: 45% chance of 10M
Horror Interest: 42% chance of 10M
Transformers One T-11: 46.71% Awareness, 49.15% Interest
Final Awareness: 77% chance of 10M, 47% chance of 20M, 25% chance of 30M
Animation/Family Awareness: 83% chance of 10M, 17% chance of 20M
Final Interest: 45% chance of 10M, 18% chance of 20M, 9% chance of 30M
Animation/Family Interest: 80% chance of 10M, 50% chance of 20M, 20% chance of 30M
Piece by Piece T-32: 19.43% Awareness, 33.83% Interest
T-30 Awareness: 15% chance of 10M
Animation/Family Awareness: 25% chance of 10M
T-30 Interest: 30% chance of 10M
Animation/Family Interest: 50% chance of 10M
Terrifier 3 T-32: 28.52% Awareness, 40.79% Interest
T-30 Awareness: 52% chance of 10M
Horror Awareness: 60% chance of 10M
T-30 Interest: 57% chance of 10M
Horror Interest: 63% chance of 10M
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I'll always have a soft spot for Edward Scissorhands, but Batman Returns very much comes close. Boy do I love me the "Burton outcasts hated by society" plot line. Wish I could say he should bring that idea back, but he somehow screwed up Dumbo, the prototype Burton protag, so...
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1 hour ago, eddyxx said:
umm… Edward Scissorhands.
Oh it's up there too, but I think Beetlejuice and Nightmare are higher than it. Of course, it's all subjective stuff lol
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Got the trailer in front of Strange Darling and I am so seated...assuming this comes to my local theaters of course.
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As for Beetlejuice's opening, it's not invalid to say Wednesday is a factor, but it's certainly not the only thing making it successful. Really, Beetlejuice is breaking out due to a tight combination of cross-generation appeal as well as serving a niche that has been absent for ages.
For starters, Beetlejuice has always been popular. Like a lot of other Burton movies, it's been a Halloween staple on cable/streaming, and merch at Spirit Halloween is always available. Heck, the Broadway show was able to be a decent hit despite having basically all the odds stacked against it. Tim Burton’s also one of the few directors who was able to sell a movie on his name for the longest time. He’s a cornerstone for tons of Hot Topic millennials and Gen Xers, so seeing a return of one of his old favorites, arguably the movie he is most synonymous for, was going to be an event for those generations. Only other movie people may think of first when it comes to Tim Burton is probably Nightmare Before Christmas (yes, I know he didn't direct it. Blame Disney, not me).
And yeah, for Gen Z, Wednesday managed to make Burton hip and exciting to a new generation and revitalize that campy gothic aesthetic people know and love about him. But it's not like there wasn't already his older movies already airing on ABC Family or streaming. There's even Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, which has become just as, if not more iconic than the Wilder film to people my age...ew, but that's nostalgia for you.
It also helps that while Burton’s 2010s output is largely regarded as poor and disposable, he hasn’t made a movie in five years, which is enough for him to be out of the limelight just enough, and make people love him all over again. If this came out like two years after Dumbo, I don't think it would have been the event that it is. Plus, there hasn't really been any other director or franchise that has tried to attempt his campy, gothic aesthetic and atmosphere, making his return even more exciting. Even Wednesday season 2 is taking an eternity to get made. It’s absence that makes the heart grow fonder, after all.
Add on the original cast, who are just as popular and relevant as ever, if not more so, as well as Jenna Ortega fresh off her own big hits, nostalgic toy commercials still as huge as ever, and tons of “remember that” money shots that make people go “OMG MY CHILDHOOD”, and you got a 110M opening.
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2 hours ago, Mojoguy said:
I'll never forget being in the theater in pure shock and disgust when he appeared. The film itself was already dreadful, but then you got this? Vile, nasty, despicable fucking movie. Everybody who approved this idea should be ashamed of themselves.
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Apologies if this was shared already.
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24 minutes ago, John Marston said:
Glad that Romulus is going to pass 100M but it is clear the Alien franchise has become kind of niche. The first two Alien films made more money than the original Beetlejuice yet look at how each respective sequel is performing this year
Maybe they should have made better Alien sequels then. That would have been a good strategy
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9 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:
There was no opening week Saturday night NFL football game with some of the most popular teams in the league...the audiences for those individual games were high (I mean Philly as a city stayed home Friday)...
So, yes families went, but when you have plans made for Thurs and Fri, you're like "okay, let's see the opener Saturday"...it's why I predicted a "Marvel Saturday of old"...
This. NFL is already a depressor for the box office, but when you have the season openers, and two big games in a row on two work/school days? That’s something you can push for the weekend.
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49 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:
Twisters and now Bettlejuice shows that pairing up a aged property with a new hot-selling star may be solution to revive some bygone IP.
And Wonka.
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@Blankments @WrathOfHan love you bb
17x:
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice: Godzilla X Kong: The New Empire, We Grown Now, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga, IF, The Garfield Movie, Young Woman and the Sea, The Watchers, Inside Out 2, Thelma, Inside Out 2 Round 2, Horizon: An American Saga - Part 1, Trap, Didi, Twisters Round 2, Between the Temples, Twister
13x:
Alien: Romulus: Godzilla X Kong: The New Empire, The First Omen, Late Night with the Devil, Alien, Abigail, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga, The Watchers, A Quiet Place: Day One, Horizon: An American Saga - Part 1, MaXXXine, Deadpool & Wolverine, Trap
Speak No Evil: Alien, Abigail, The Watchers, Kinds of Kindness, MaXXXine, Longlegs, Twisters, Deadpool & Wolverine, Trap, Didi, Alien: Romulus, Strange Darling, Blink Twice
10x:
Mufasa: The Lion King: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, Young Woman and the Sea, Inside Out 2, Inside Out 2 Round 2, The Lion King, Inside Out 2 Round Three, Alien: Romulus, Coraline, Twisters Round 2, Twister
9x:
Transformers One: IF, Inside Out 2, A Quiet Place: Day One, Horizon: An American Saga - Chapter 1, The Lion King, Twisters, Coraline, Twisters Round 2, Twister
The Wild Robot: Kung Fu Panda 4, Luca, Shrek 2, We Grown Now, Mars Express, Young Woman and the Sea, Inside Out 2, The Lion King, Between the Temples
8x:
Wicked: Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga, IF, Twisters, Deadpool & Wolverine, Didi, Coraline, Twisters Round 2, Twister
7x:
Joker: Folie a Deux: Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga, Bad Boys: Ride or Die, Trap, Didi, Alien: Romulus, Strange Darling, Blink Twice
6x:
Elio: Frozen, Beauty and the Beast, The Incredibles, Coco, The Lion King, Moana
5x:
Borderlands: The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare, Wildcat, Inside Out 2 Round 2, Kinds of Kindness, Deadpool & Wolverine
4x:
White Bird: Thor: Love and Thunder, Are You There God? It's Me Margaret, The Little Mermaid, IF
A Real Pain: Kinds of Kindness, Twisters, Strange Darling, Between the Temples
Moana 2: Inside Out 2, Inside Out 2 Round 2, The Lion King, Inside Out 2 Round 3
3x:
The Crow: Godzilla X Kong: The New Empire, Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga, Alien: Romulus
My Old Ass: Kinds of Kindness, Longlegs, Blink Twice
Red One: Twisters, Alien: Romulus, Blink Twice
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Cuckoo: Immaculate, Longlegs
My Penguin Friend: The Garfield Movie, Young Woman and the Sea
Smile 2: A Quiet Place: Day One, Alien: Romulus
Venom: The Last Dance: Bad Boys: Ride or Die, Trap
Heretic: MaXXXine, Trap
Kraven the Hunter: Twisters Round 2, Twister
A Complete Unknown: Deadpool & Wolverine, Blink Twice
Nosferatu: The Bikeriders, A Quiet Place: Day One
Captain America: Brave New World: Deadpool & Wolverine, Alien: Romulus
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SpoilerRyan's World the Movie: Titan Universe Adventure: Inside Out 2
Blink Twice: Challengers
The Forge: Didi
Strange Darling: Longlegs
Reagan: Horizon: An American Saga - Part 1
The Front Room: MaXXXine
The Killer's Game: Twisters
Never Let Go: Blink Twice
The Substance: Strange Darling
Wolfs: Bad Boys: Ride or Die
Megalopolis: Strange Darling
Saturday Night: Between the Temples
Piece by Piece: Inside Out 2 Round 2
Anora: Longlegs
Flight Risk: Horizon: An American Saga - Part 1
The Unbreakable Boy: King Richard
Wildwood: Coraline
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Oh HELL to the no. I would kill myself if some jerkoff did this shit at my theater lmao
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I will say I do think this handwringing over Wicked not being advertised as a two-parter is a little silly? Both It and Dune weren't advertised as two-parters, and both had good reception and solid legs. If anything, people were excited for the next one to see how the story continues. As long as the movie delivers, it should be fine. Plus, ending on a banger number like Defying Gravity definitely does well in terms of getting audiences something to chew on at the end and an exciting cliffhanger for the next movie.
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2 hours ago, 4815162342 said:
a bubble over the whole country
The Simpsons Movie (2007)
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19 minutes ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:
Between that, and the so-so CinemaScore
A B+ is actually fairly standard for these types of genre comedies. The first Beetlejuice was a B for comparison. Men in Black was a B+, Galaxy Quest was a B, Scary Movie was a B-, Zombieland was A-, the sequel was a B+. Don't think WOM is anything to be too concerned about IMO.
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2 minutes ago, Bob Train said:
Great opening. When will the next 100m+ opener be?
I’m the Jokah, baby!
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Crisis averted. God bless Charles 🫡
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https://deadline.com/2024/09/snl-movie-jason-reitman-release-date-1236027230/
September 27 NY/LA, October 4 limited, October 11 wide
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JUICY WEEKEND - BJBJ releases with $111M (DHD)
in Box Office Discussion
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https://deadline.com/2024/09/box-office-beetlejuice-beetlejuice-1236079763/
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