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    Weekend Actuals (Page 77): It 60.1M | American Assassin 14.8M | JLaw's Original Sin 7.5M

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    4 minutes ago, filmlover said:

    Cause then nobody sees the movie and the studio loses even more money. Plain and simple.

    I disagree. I think with a film like this you try to slowly build an audience and get positive WOM from a more selective audience. Then you try to move it wide and hope for awards recognition. Admittedly there was no easy way to approach it. But the idea that you could just release this on 2K screens without expecting a lot of very negative feedback makes no sense.  Plus I think the whole aura of secrecy was stupid. This film works much better if you know where it is going.  

    Weekend Actuals (Page 77): It 60.1M | American Assassin 14.8M | JLaw's Original Sin 7.5M

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    So Paramount going wide with a heavy arthouse movie was probably not a good idea. LOL. So now you get "flop" articles about a movie that is the polar opposite of a mainstream film, that needed a platform release. Well done. They went wide with a super controversial arthouse film and created an entirely needless negative storyline. Hollywood brilliance strikes again. 

    mother! | 09.15.17 | Paramount | Darren Aronofsky, Jennifer Lawrence | Razzie Awards frontrunner

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    30 minutes ago, Water Bottle said:

     

    An F isn't divisive. It's a film that's being rejected.

    No. It is a film not designed for mainstream audiences. To say it is not divisive is to pretend that all the reactions and reviews hailing it as a brilliant movie did not happen. The two biggest Youtube reviewers also gave it a very favorable reaction. So 200 people from the multiplex HATED it? Ok. Still a divisive movie. 

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    Weekend Actuals (Page 77): It 60.1M | American Assassin 14.8M | JLaw's Original Sin 7.5M

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    9 minutes ago, straggler said:

    Could be. Pfeiffer gets some choice dialogue. That is kind of how things go.

     

    EDIT...... this stuff is borderline spoiler. I know you're not giving away plot details but you're definitely giving away stuff about the script and character beats and so on. This is not the thread for that. Please tread very carefully when you post them here about films. There are other threads you can talk about the film in that kind of way.....

    THE STAFF

     

    We will see how it goes. This is against a lot of Oscar norms.  

    Ok. Didn't think it was spoliery. But understood. Anyway if those were my thoughts. :) 

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    Weekend Actuals (Page 77): It 60.1M | American Assassin 14.8M | JLaw's Original Sin 7.5M

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    33 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

    Anyways, if you want an acting nomination for mother!, put your hope in Michelle Pfeiffer. Melissa Leo and Hong Chau are dropping fast in that category, and there aren't many other people that will fill in those spots. I think Tatiana Maslany could get in for Stronger, but it completely depends on how well Roadside campaigns and if Gyllenhaal is nominated in Actor.

    Could be. Pfeiffer gets some choice dialogue. That is kind of how things go.

     

    EDIT...... this stuff is borderline spoiler. I know you're not giving away plot details but you're definitely giving away stuff about the script and character beats and so on. This is not the thread for that. Please tread very carefully when you post them here about films. There are other threads you can talk about the film in that kind of way.....

    THE STAFF

     

    We will see how it goes. This is against a lot of Oscar norms.  

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    Weekend Actuals (Page 77): It 60.1M | American Assassin 14.8M | JLaw's Original Sin 7.5M

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    5 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

    The categories mother! has a chance at getting nominated in from best to worst:

     

    Sound Editing: At the very least I expect it to get in here. The film has fucking insane sound effects.

    Supporting Actress: This category is a little weak and some contenders are losing steam. I expect Pfeiffer to get a Globe nomination and show up here too.

    Cinematography: The same cinematographer got nominated for Black Swan, and the film has a very unique filming style. It's competing for the last two spots with Darkest Hour, Call Me by Your Name, and Wonder Wheel.

    Production Design: As the film grows more divisive, I'm feeling less confident here.

    Director: Very unlikely to happen, but the branch is small enough for a WTF nomination to occur. 

    Best actress. 

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    Weekend Actuals (Page 77): It 60.1M | American Assassin 14.8M | JLaw's Original Sin 7.5M

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    2 minutes ago, Stutterng baumer Denbrough said:

     

    You don't honestly believe that mother has a chance of anything this year do you? Critics hate it in audiences hate it. It will get absolutely nothing

    Critics are divided, with quite a few saying it is brilliant and virtually all saying Jlaw had an Oscar caliber performance. A subversive, super dark film freaking out audiences is an endorsement come to think of it. I don't think a F cinemascore for a film this is desiogned to be as viscerally disturbing and uncomfortable as posisble will sour its chances. 

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    1 minute ago, WrathOfHan said:

    I think people who are acting like mother! has no chance at awards are in over their heads, but there's only about 4 or 5 categories it can break into (Picture and Actress ain't two of them).

    Exactly. This is an arthouse film, although insane even by those standards. That it does not play well in the general audience won't matter. 

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    Weekend Actuals (Page 77): It 60.1M | American Assassin 14.8M | JLaw's Original Sin 7.5M

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    9 minutes ago, Nova said:

    I'm willing to bet Wonder Woman will get a best picture nom before mother! 

     

    mother! can get buzz from Jlaw getting a best actress nom but the film itself isn't getting anything. 

     

    So I don't see smaller theaters keeping mother! through awards season simply because it's not going to be a contender. 

    My intuition is telling me otherwise. I think their peers will see this as a Kubrickesque work of art. 

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    Weekend Actuals (Page 77): It 60.1M | American Assassin 14.8M | JLaw's Original Sin 7.5M

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    11 minutes ago, filmlover said:

    They're not gonna keep a film that's gonna be making less than $1M in three weeks (if not quicker than that) in theaters for long. They'll put it out on DVD right before Christmas in all likelihood. Also, its Oscar chances are completely dead at this point.

    I don't think they are dead at all. It would be a travesty if Jlaw was not at least nominated. Don't think it changes because it did not play like a rom-com. Most Oscar films are not box office hits. But I think thir peers will appreciate this. A crazy, intense, subversive piece of art. 

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