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I don't root against films. But something about this film was offputting. Not the PC stuff. Just you had a marketing campaign that consisted of pandering to stereotypical fanboys with the enticement of seeing Scarjo dressed provocatively. That was it.
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16 minutes ago, Olive said:
Ghost in the Shell Paramount Pictures $18,676,033
It's even lower.
That was telegraphed a mile away. They only missed the estimate by thatmuch.
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47 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:
$110m isn't big for heavily effects driven film. Passengers costs that much. Passengers was more top heavy with star salary ($32.5m) but Scarlett at $17.5 wasn't cheap either.
Lucy, smaller scale than GitS cost $70m+. The $40m often reported is wrong and stems from a bad conversion from the budget in 2013 Euros.
I agree. But what was the anticipated market for GitS? Even with the critical torching I think Sony was on the right track with Passengers. The holiday release date, the recent track record of films like Gravity and The Martian, the space romance aspect, the stars. The idea box office-wise was corrrect even if it took some crazy turns and could been executed better. Pasengers with a normal RT score, something in the 50s or low 60s, would have been very interesting, and there was enough to survive a nasty critical hit job. I cannot say the same thing about GitS.
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3 minutes ago, Noctis said:
Very much like The House at the End of the Street and Serena.
HATES made four times its budget.
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GitS will lilkely come in under $19 million OW. Did not really care for the marketing. The thing that sinks these type of films is the price tag. They made Lucy, which I did not like at all even as a Fifth Element fan, for what, $40 million?
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I must confess: I bought the tickets. I cost me my entire life fortune and I am now destitute on the street, but at least I'll die knowing the club has failed!
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OMG! OMG! OMG! A Disney live action remake is doing well at the box office. Unprecedented! Next you will tell me that comic book films and animated films have box office potential.
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The 2005 version was a terriffic movie.
Is this one considered a success? It made $30 million less than Godzilla OW and will make less than the 2005 film.
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5 minutes ago, Nova said:
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed in Logan's second weekend drop. Yes I know it lost some of its IMAX screens and I know it's a huge success but still. I was expecting a better hold. Its drop is going to be bigger than Deadpool's and that came off of an inflated Valentine's Day weekend. Then again I should have seen the writing on the wall....Logan is a really really good movie but it's just not a crowd pleaser. At least that was the sense that I got after I watched it three different times. I feel like outside the typical comic book fan, there's no appeal for it which is a damn shame.
X-Men films have a ceiling. Deadpool was great but it worked in part because it was a film that poked good-natured fun at the X-men franchise.
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On 3/4/2017 at 3:11 PM, trifle said:
We've had some discussion here about the plot twist and why Aurora forgives Jim. This 'extra' clip doesn't quite discuss that but does say why Jen feels Aurora might have needed to be trapped on a ship in order to find a relationship that could make her happy.
Jennifer understood the story better than the writer/director, that it was not so much about forgiving him as about Aurora finding peace with herself. They should have let her write the scene. Did a good job with improvising the script in Like Crazy.
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Feel bad for Lionsgate though. I see Oscars as blending critical acclaim with popular appeal. Film is public art after all. So you have La La Land, which has made $339 million and counting and which received the majority of the precursors losing to a film that has made $22 million WW. I have no real intense interest, but La La Land was better than Moonlight and simply more deserving. Unless a film is overwhelmingly critically better my philososphy is to go with the movie that connected with audiences. For example I thought The Revenant should have won last year. The Academy has a different view.
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Did not watch this year. Too much politics. Hopefully it calms down a bit next year. The ending was the cherry on top of a mess.
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2 minutes ago, The Futurist said:
Man, Emma has already been in two films who won best films.
Is she the real actress of her generation and not basic Jlaw ?
No. Jlaw is the most naturally talented actress in the last 40 years. Although the trick may be making films about actors.
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The negative ninnies on twitter are already attacking Emma. Which is why no cares about twitter. All they do is whine.
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Re: Denzel it is hard to get Oscar Number 3. That sort of thinking always factors in, who has already won, etc.
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I got nothing. Have no horses in the race this year.
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7 hours ago, trifle said:
Someone in the Box Office Buzz thread said this is coming back to theaters in his area this weekend. It isn't, near me, but it might be near other people who want to see it, or want to see it again, or want to see why it was on the short list for the VFX Oscar (it was in the Oscar reel but wasn't nominated), and why it was nominated for best production design!
I definitely got the idea that the flood of releases pushed it out of theaters prematurely. It was actually holding pretty well, just losing screens too quickly to make way for other films. It made over 900K this past weekend on 620 screens. A few hundred more screens wouldn't hurt. I think it still has some legs yet.
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See you in March.
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5 hours ago, shayhiri said:
Yeah, my girlfriend said it was a beautiful love story - and a fable and allegory for our whole lives - drifting through the emptiness on this spaceship called Earth - where destination is unreachable, and plans and purpose are no more than illusions, and all you can do is try grab a hold of the moment in your brief journey, find a meaning in it and live it the best way you can.
That's how love works. That's how life works.
I just wish the writer/director had done a better job bringing these themes out, but they were definitely an implicit part of the story. Audiences can intuit the point even where critics could not.
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3 hours ago, filmscholar said:
1 Billion, 500+ Domestic for the first Star Wars Spin Off. What's the floor for "Han Solo"?
Well Rogue One was not a spin off. Not even close. It was the direct prequel to New Hope, had a number of classic characters, and was part of the canon story. It did fine but it was not the adventures of Gary the Stormtrooper. I'd say similar numbers if the film is well received.
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45 minutes ago, grim22 said:
Passengers will now need to be pushed across the 100M mark by Sony officially. Needed to hold a lot better to get over the mark without any help. Looks like it will get 2.2-2.4M for the weekend which means it will come out of the weekend with around 94.4M or so. It's actually going to fall behind Dragon Tattoo's running total while making 1+M lower this weekend.
Sony need to come up with a re-expansion plan right now to prevent a Spectre repeat.
Everything is about theater count. It was actually holding as well as TGWTDT but then the market was flooded with films. The upside is that a lot of films that have glutted the market place will lose screens this week. If Passengers can hold its current count it will get across the line. If not it could be a crawl into March.
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55 minutes ago, SWXII said:
You'll be no where to be found next December.
I thought R1 was a lot better than TFA.
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1 hour ago, baumer said:
Stop it.
Stop what? I did not say R1 was a failure or propose a WWW thread. But the drop off is still amazing. It is what it is. Star Wars 8 should interesting.
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So Rogue One is going to make $400 million dollars less in the US and over a billion dollars less WW than TFA. Obviously TFA was just one of those events, but the fall off is still extraordinary. This is a direct prequel to New Hope.
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Ghost in the Shell | March 31, 2017 | Scarlett Johansson | Paramount | New Trailer on page 43!!!
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I do not think whate-washing was why this film flopped. It became a too convenient excuse for the studio and people jumped on the bandwagon after the damage was done. What sunk the film is that it just did not have broad enough box office appeal in general.