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Why does the-numbers still have average ticket price at $9.17. Do we have any update on it from a reliable source since 2020.
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Hmm wonder why the Mon-Mon drop for A2 and Puss are higher relative to their weekends.
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3 hours ago, Godzilla said:
$2.4B is now the goal and that'll depend on how it holds when Quantumania comes out.
Would require 6.6x multiplier off $40m WW weekend, right? Think that's too big an ask without any more China contribution. Even $2.3B needs 4x multiplier.
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17 hours ago, Issac Newton said:
Okay, whatever, I have already seen how much respect you have for our directors whether it's Miyazaki/Shinkai in last 30 years.
Now, don't tell me people aren't used to non-English Titles and DS was at max potential level.
I largely believe Things should be at the cost of what you give is what you get.
Film watching is alive. Avatar failing in Japan doesn't mean that Market has collapsed. We have more local films (Infact Transformer &Indiana Jones) that can perform better than Avatar.
I love Miyazaki/Shinkai and several other Japanese directors, although Cameron had a strong track record there until now. It seems the studio is playing a bigger role in this scenario if the blame is being put on Disney+ (I understand why this would harm most product associated with Disney, but the whole idea of Avatar is that it demands to be seen in theater so I question why that was specifically an issue here if there wasn't really an access issue).
It's true the signs where there with TV ratings / home video rental/sales but you could also say that it might make sense to some degree if the idea is it is just not the same if you aren't seeing it in theaters. To me this would be more explicable if Hollywood product was failing across the board but clearly that's not the case (TGM, JW, and you have a turd like BR legging to $100m+ cuz of the soundtrack).
If 3D is dead there so be it, but a follow-up to uber-blockbuster that didn't have WOM issues with that multiplier declining so much is nearly unprecedented since this did not fail everywhere like the Alice in Wonderland sequel (closest comparison seems to be The Hobbit, but reception to that was generally worse everywhere and probably higher admissions drops across the board). People will be pointing to this for awhile in noting the market's idiosyncratic nature.
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I used to have a lot of respect for Japan's market taste (in animation esp.), but dunno how much value they place on directors anymore and question whether the idea of cinema as spectacle is still alive (unless Tom Cruise is shilling the product).
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19 minutes ago, DAJK said:
Looking at BOM, it looks like Brady came in first on Friday? Or did they do what they did with Missing and add the EA shows twice?
Kinda hoping both openers make it over 15M. Would be a nice, healthy box office milestone for early Feb.
Probably another double-counting mistake.
Just saw A2 a third time (this time in 4DX) at the soon-closing Regal Union Square. Mostly full crowd, the movie holds up although this being my first 4DX experience it is pretty gimmicky/distracting, and I don't think I have much interest in trying it again.
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-34% Fri-Fri is good for A2 with the Dolby loss / cold weather considering Sunday hold should be better this weekend.
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1 hour ago, Krissykins said:
Off topic, but if anyone has forgotten how big a phenomenon The Greatest Showman was, the album is number 1 again this week here in the UK, its 36th overall week at #1 after releasing more than 5 years ago.
2.6m copies sold.
What? Nearly 9x Platinum? No thanks.
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What was the rationale for the smaller theater count on MM3?
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E.T. is still incredibly effective IMO.
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37 minutes ago, Alexdube said:
Americans have pride in their military, other countries do not (whether they are allies or not). If you want to talk about other countries such as Japan or the UK, other factors are at play there and that's not what I'm here to talk about.
But it shouldn't take a genius to understand why an old fashioned pro-military/American movie featuring Tom Cruise might do better domestically relative to the rest of the world than a movie with an anti-imperialist message depicting the bad guys mainly as Americans
I don't think that's why it succeeded in those markets at all, it's just an amusing connection that's already been pointed out. TGM is largely well-done/entertaining, but I wouldn't consider the degree of its success warranted (although will take any win for theatrical we can get these days so I was rooting for its climb to $700m).
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22 minutes ago, Sophia Jane said:
Die erfolgreichsten Filme aller Zeiten Nr. Lira Film 1 164.749.593 Avatar 2 
160.057.802 Bergen
124.110.064 Rafadan Tayfa - Galaktik Tayfa
90.148.220 7. Kogustaki Mucize
85.986.157 Recep Ivedik 5
84.601.159 Müslüm 6 76.688.843 Spider-Man - No Way Home
72.103.217 Recep Ivedik 4
69.422.924 Dügün Dernek 2
68.917.965 Dügün Dernek Thanks for the inflation,Avatar break B.O record in Turkey
This is all-time in local currency?
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2 hours ago, Alexdube said:
one movie is stroking American pride
the other is doing the opposite
So dumb, US/UK/Japan military allies got themselves twisted with this one. 😄
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57 minutes ago, CaptNathanBrittles said:
E.T.'s run was close, though a bit different. E.T. legs were even more backloaded than TITANIC's.
ET's 4th weekend was bigger than the OW record at the time. Its first 7 weekends were all within 23.1% of the OW record. The closest TITANIC was away from the OW record of the time was 50.9%. In weekend 7 TITANIC was 64.1% away from THE LOST WORLD'S opening.
E.T. was a summer release so it had weaker weekends/stronger weekdays compared to most of TITANIC's run. If you compare their weeks instead of weekends, E.T. beat TITANIC in week 4, 6 and 8, then consistently won after week 18. Thanks to Christmas E.T.'s 29th week was bigger than its 14th in which it grossed a staggering $23m adjusted. The last time TITANIC saw those numbers was week 17.
E.T. played for over a year in its initial run. In its 52nd weekend, which is the last one I could find numbers for, it grossed $7.3m adjusted. TITANIC set sail from theatres after 41 weeks.
Yah E.T. and Titanic probably the two most impressive runs post-82, although I still give the edge to Titanic since it had to compete with home video / cable and was more global (+Diamond selling soundtrack).
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Titanic and The Beatles probably the two biggest multi-media events of the 20th century on a global scale. GWTW had a different trajectory with insane longevity over decades, though.
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Of two minds about the domestic total. It is a great result after the opening, but if you look at Canada seems there should have been $800m+ potential in NA. I know Europe is generally considered more cynical than America, but wonder if a different sort of cynicism hampered its US potential. Still hard to upset with the result, but TGM shouldn't be winning out even domestically.
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On 1/30/2023 at 8:19 PM, Psylocke said:
Basically Japan is the worst market for Avatar 2. Is there another country that is the worst for Avatar 2 or just Japan?
Japan stands alone in shame.
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6 minutes ago, interiorgatordecorator said:
yeah
but still annoyed it was to ostlund of all people
True that movie was not great.
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Yeah Cinematography should have been a gimme as well since the first won it, but possible the HFR did not sit well with branch members?
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So glad this hung on to make it into Best Picture.
Too bad about the Cameron miss but was inevitable at this point.
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1 hour ago, titanic2187 said:
That just great but not exceptional Friday hold for Avatar 2 basically seal the below TGM deal, even 700m become very tough threshold to hit. I am still thinking $680m. Hope $2bn headline and Oscar nomination boost some positive buzz back to the film.
Would need to hope it hangs on and actually still gets nominated in Best Picture first.
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2 minutes ago, Sophia Jane said:
BOP give Avatar $22.5m prediction of 6th WE
Godspeed.
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4 hours ago, WittyUsername said:
Is Scoresby going to lose a limb in each movie?
Showing up in A5 like
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$20m weekend would be good but was hoping it'd surprise. We'll see how Wed/Thurs play out.
Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it
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If US had taken cues from continental Europe and Canada we'd have an easy $800m grosser.