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    SPECTRE | 11/6/15 | Final Trailer on Page 126! | Twitter reactions coming in, STID 2.0?

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    The backlash against Skyfall has been almost as big as TDK's. Almost.

     

    One thing I would say to those that didn't care for the movie: don't expect the next to be much different. The producers have only ever changed the tone of the franchise when they really had to, and their desperation to have Mendes back suggests they're in no mood to shake things up just yet.

     

    What backlash? Skyfall had great word-of-mouth. That is why its opening weekend was only 29% of total gross. It took nearly twice as much money as the two previous Bonds added together. Of course they wanted Mendes back because he made a movie that was loved by critics and audiences and made a ton of money. 

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    SPECTRE | 11/6/15 | Final Trailer on Page 126! | Twitter reactions coming in, STID 2.0?

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    Fair enough, if I'm being honest I'm not predicting 300m either simply because it's rare to have 2 good bond films in a row but I do think it's possible. One thing I will disagree with though, TDKR was most likely hitting around 500m without those shooting. Still would have fallen below TDK but I'd argue those shootings effected it's total gross by about 50m. Parents were refusing to let their kids see the film when that happened and I live in the UK. I imagine it was a similar case in the States.

    If bond is a really good film though, 300m should happen.

     

    I agree it is rare to have two good Bonds in a row, but the Bond team have upped their game and are very focused on creating quality products. Casino Royale really raised the bar very high, then Quantum of Solace may have fallen flat in terms of plot, but it was the nearest thing to an arthouse Bond movie, then Skyfall again raised the bar. So, I think the benchmark is Skyfall and Casino Royale. Quantum of Solace was a great effort, but you can see the producers are operating at a different level since Daniel Craig took on the role. Hopefully, they have learned the lessons of Quantum of Solace. With two out of the last three being among the best Bonds, I think there is a very good chance Spectre will again exceed expectations.  

    SPECTRE | 11/6/15 | Final Trailer on Page 126! | Twitter reactions coming in, STID 2.0?

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    QOS cost $200m+ so I doubt Skyfall cost less than that.

     

    Bond's budgets are now massive and keep growing in part because the producers fee for the Broccolis is included in it and just keeps getting bigger and bigger. They also get a % off the gross and of course there's MGM so Sony's profit isn't nearly equal as it would normally be for a tent pole this size. Even if it makes a $1b they might make less on it than the last Spider-man.

     

    Edit: Wow docs say it's mid $300m's and they want $100m cut from it somewhere

     

    Don't forget that Bond has a lot of prestige associated with it. A third of the budget will come from product placement sponsorship, possibly a lot more than that, given the success of the last movie. 

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    SPECTRE | 11/6/15 | Final Trailer on Page 126! | Twitter reactions coming in, STID 2.0?

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    I've seen 7 Bond films. I know they're all the same and they're all sexist. According to others, it's generally accepted that they are.

     

     

    Exactly

     

    I don't agree that the most recent Bond movies are sexist. There have been several strong female roles that have been more than one dimensional. Obviously M is a good example. Vesper is another. In the past, the Bond girls were often more decorative and more sexual objects than thinking women with personalities (example Live and Let Die and the Man with the Golden Gun), but I don't think that is the case now. Also Bond did slap women around (example, Diamonds Are Forever), but that was part of the character of Bond.He was as prepared to slap a woman across the face as he was to kill a man. He has slept with women to get information out of them and, of course, they can never resist him, but equally if he was a gay spy, he would sleep with men to get information. I don't think that would be sexist or homophobic. Yes, it is a prerequisite that a Bond women must be stunning to look at, but is it really sexist to celebrate the beauty of women on film? 

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    SPECTRE | 11/6/15 | Final Trailer on Page 126! | Twitter reactions coming in, STID 2.0?

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    Bond at the U.S. Adjusted according to BOM.

     

    The question is if it will act like Thunderball after Goldfinger or act like You Only Live Twice after Thunderball (really not expecting a halve in admissions even if I do think it will drop).  Was Skyfall the peak due to the convergence of the 50th anniversary, Olympics etc? O/S just keeps on expanding but Skyfall was so big how much more room for growth is there. Add to that the $ is now a lot stronger so exchange rates are less favorable.

     

    Adjusted for Ticket Price Inflation

    Rank Title (click to view) Studio Adjusted Gross Unadjusted Gross Release 1 Thunderball UA $607,376,000 $63,595,658 12/21/65 2 Goldfinger UA $538,356,000 $51,081,062 12/22/64 3 Skyfall Sony $307,006,900 $304,360,277 11/9/12 4 You Only Live Twice UA $291,540,400 $43,084,787 6/13/67 5 Moonraker MGM $227,450,900 $70,308,099 6/29/79 6 Die Another Day MGM $223,982,400 $160,942,139 11/22/02 7 Tomorrow Never Dies MGM $218,518,800 $125,304,276 12/19/97 8 From Russia, with Love UA $216,505,100 $24,796,765 4/8/64 9 Diamonds Are Forever UA $215,645,300 $43,819,547 12/17/71 10 Casino Royale Sony $206,480,900 $167,445,960 11/17/06 11 The World Is Not Enough MGM $201,812,900 $126,943,684 11/19/99 12 GoldenEye MGM $198,160,000 $106,429,941 11/17/95 13 Quantum of Solace Sony $190,411,100 $168,368,427 11/14/08 14 Octopussy MGM $175,014,700 $67,893,619 6/10/83 15 The Spy Who Loved Me UA $170,551,600 $46,838,673 7/13/77 16 Live and Let Die UA $162,298,300 $35,377,836 6/27/73 17 For Your Eyes Only MGM $160,100,700 $54,812,802 6/26/81 18 Dr. No UA $153,487,400 $16,067,035 5/8/63 19 Never Say Never Again WB $142,893,500 $55,432,841 10/7/83 20 On Her Majesty's Secret Service UA $130,231,600 $22,774,493 12/18/69 21 A View to a Kill MGM $115,116,300 $50,327,960 5/24/85 22 The Living Daylights UA $106,299,100 $51,185,897 7/31/87 23 The Man with the Golden Gun UA $91,065,600 $20,972,000 12/18/74 24 License to Kill UA $70,905,800 $34,667,015 7/14/89 TOTAL: $5,121,211,300 $1,912,830,793 - AVERAGE: $213,383,800 $79,701,283  

     

     

     

    Thunderball was Sean Connery's highest grossing Bond movie.

    Moonraker was Roger Moore's highest grossing Bond movie.

    Die Another Day was Pierce Brosnan's highest grossing Bond movie 

    Each actor's fourth movie is the highest grossing Bond movie.

    SPECTRE is Daniel Craig's fourth Bond movie.

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    Tuesday Numbers | Gravity - 6.6M

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    A new opener, IMAX, no kids movie, jumping 10% on its first tuesday? That's just great.

     

    I just wanted to compare it to "Skyfall" but that one had a very strange drop on tuesday, so it's pretty hard to find a good movie to compare. Maybe "Hunger Games", but that one came from a much bigger opening, so not convincing.

     

    But really? What is the lowest, "Gravity" could go now? 32m next weekend, and that's the absolute worst case. That would bring it close to 110m, how would it not pass 160m easily then?

    The question should be, how would it not easily pass $250m?

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