Celedhring
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The WGA isn't demanding a return to 20 episode seasons. Just a minimum guaranteed employment to compensate for the shortened seasons.
And the minimums the WGA is demanding (3 weeks per episode) are close to the current average length of employment - but of course the average would go up if you can't go below the current number.
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2 hours ago, grim22 said:
I think it's because everything is spelled out now. One of my go to examples is "The Fugitive", the movie just dives into the murder and goes from there. If it was made or remade now, we will definitely have 10-15 minutes setting up the story of Kimble and his wife before the murder so we can sympathize with them more. The movie decides to let us discover Kimble's personality as it unfolds but now we would need all of that to happen up front.
I think my favorite example is Death on the Nile treating us with an extended prologue explaining the origin story of Poirot's moustache.
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My perception is that blockbusters became longer in the 2010s and we still live in that world. I ran some quick (and probably dirty) math on the average running time (as stated in BOM) for the Top 10 of several years:
2022: 2h 20m
2012: 2h 20m
2002: 2h 2m
1992: 1h 51m
However, after going through the Top 10 for each year, there's a big caveat. In 2012 and 2022 genres that usually clock in at shorter runtimes (comedies in particular) are underrepresented compared to the other two. So I think a lot of this is affected by changing popularity of movie genres - the downfall of comedies and the rise of superhero and epic fantasy films.
(I did this in 10 min before making lunch, so don't get angry at me if there's faulty math).
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Yeah, an AI doesn't have a sense of what it is writing or - most important - why it is writing it in that particular way, what you want to achieve with every single moving piece of the text. Making decisions (informed by your craftmanship, experience and personal history, emotions, vision, etc...) are the most important part of a creative endeavour imho.
Then again, I feel studios are pretty happy with scripts that just look like the same as other scripts. Content culture.
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On 8/7/2023 at 8:16 AM, Dominic Draper said:
Gotta think $400M would be the point where they greenlight a 3rd no?
If this one does "just" 400M I think it's getting to the point where they risk losing money with a 3rd if it has a similar drop.
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12 minutes ago, The GOAT said:
Netflix has ruined the entertainment industry. Prove me wrong.
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A Netflix spokesman declined to say whether the company would meet with the union. In a written statement, the company said it follows all local laws and regulations and that as a streaming service — and not a broadcaster — it is not required to pay residuals.
Reminds me of how Netflix also profited from several loopholes in the EU media directives - written when streaming didn't exist - to ignore regulation that applies to regular broadcasters. Thankfully, the directives have finally been updated recently. South Korea should do the same.
Now, regarding Netflix ruining the entertainment industry... there's good and there's bad. FWIW, it has revitalized the industry in Spain. However, at the same time, it's pushing down work conditions.
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3 hours ago, DInky said:
I'm surprised this person didn't suggest placing all the writers into internment camps.
Depends whether they'd still be getting their 10%
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Joe Johnston is no Spielberg (who is?) but he's always excelled at making fun competent adventure films. Jurasic 3, Rocketeer, the original Jumanji, Hidalgo, even the first Cap flick.
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Regarding the residuals issue, the unions have been willing to discuss metrics to measure a show's success other that just viewership. The AMPTP just won't entertain it.
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1 hour ago, grim22 said:
What's with rich people becoming more shameless nowadays? Feels like we have entered a new era of the quiet part being said out loud to shareholders.
ETA: Reading the article, it was not Zaslav, it was the CFO which makes somewhat more sense in the sense that it was the CFO just listing out the actual impacts to free cash flow
So the tweet is mostly rage-bait. It is definitely understandable in a sense for a CFO of a public company to list monetary impacts.
Yeah, it's business as usual. When reporting earnings of al listed company (which WBD are) you *must* detail the factors that have influenced each financial item.
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36 minutes ago, Jonwo said:
I would assume Studiocanal have allowed her to leave the production temporarily because SAG and British Equity has stressed that under UK law, an actor would have no protection if they decide to strike. I would imagine they can work around her given the cast is majority British so can work under Equity contracts. Banderas I'm not 100% sure on given he's Spanish.
Banderas is SAG.
But it's all down to whether the production falls under the SAG contract or not. I suspect it doesn't since it's an Euro producer.
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11 minutes ago, SchumacherFTW said:
That fucking Bryan Adams song that's the only reason the 91 Robin Hood film is remembered 🤮
Alan Rickman as Sheriff of Nothingham is the sole reason to watch that movie. "...and call off Christmas!"
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This is nice. Hopefully it's a honest attempt at bargaining and not a PR stunt given all the bad press they're getting.
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1 minute ago, Hildagarde25 said:
Zhivago is a really interestig case to me. I watch a lot of old movies. Usually, with the big ones, I can understand why they were successful, regardless whether I like or don't like them personally. However, I don't get the domestic success for Zhivago
Gone with the Wind, yes. Ben Hur, yes. Love Story, yes. Titanic, yes. But Zhivago drags as a film, and the love story isn't that romantic, imo. I feel like it's one of those films that hasn't held up like the others, but again, just my perspective.
The book was hugely popular when the film came out, and Pasternak became a bit of a symbol of the Cold War. I agree the movie is one of Lean's lesser works, but its success is not surprising.
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12 minutes ago, Joel M said:
Would probably gross 1 billie in Argentina and the city of Napoli alone.
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I want a remake of Lisztomania.
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4 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:
Indiana Jones and the Matzah of Depression.
Indiana Jones and the Paella of Procrastination.
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1 minute ago, Jonwo said:
TBF Disney has never really done original IP at least on a big scale in live action unless you count things released by Touchstone or Hollywood Pictures. Indeed looking at their history, most of their most successful live action films are based on existing things like Mary Poppins or Pirates. The closest thing they've had to original IP in live action under the Disney brand is Herbie.
They have shut down the Touchstone/Hollywood pipeline, although I suppose Fox is now taking on the role of being the outlet for the kind of movies they'd have released under that.
Nonetheless, ten years ago they were still doing stuff like Enchanted, Secretariat, etc... under Disney. I suppose stuff like Mars Needs Moms and John Carter/Lone Ranger soured them on gambling on original projects or unestablished IPs. But it feels like Disney has forgotten how to do live action family movies that are not remakes or based on rides - even if when they have had their share of bombs with these kind of projects, too.
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1 minute ago, Jonwo said:
TBH it's not something that's ever resonated with audiences given it's based off a ride. Pirates and Jungle Cruise could at least sell itself on the premise and the stars.
Yeah, I'm betting 90% of people that watched POTC worldwide don't even know it's - supposedly - based off a ride. The whole "based on a ride" provides no boost.
I suppose the whole justification of these theme park movies is the obsession with corporate synergy. Disney seems to have become incapable of greenlighting any single live action project that it's not based on existing Disney IP.
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14 minutes ago, grim22 said:
It's dependent on what exactly happened when there were previous versions pitched. Like for example with Barbie it's very doubtful any of the prior version budgets were rolled into this one because production companies itself changed from Sony to Warner.
It depends. I don't know the production history of Barbie, but if Warner picked the project in turnaround, the usual practice is that some of Sony's sunk costs are passed onto Warner, in exchange of acquiring full rights to the project.
EDIT: Doing a bit of research, it seems that Mattel got back the rights and went to Warner. So the project wasn't picked in turnaround - still, there's a decent chance that Warner acquired the rights to previous Barbie scripts as legal protection - I have seen it happen. Anyway, it's one of those "we'll probably never know" things.
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Personally, I don't care about shitty effects in movies if said movies are good (and the LOTR movies are great), but there's something about late 1990s-early 2000s CGI that amps up the uncanny valley-ness. It's more an issue in ROTK because of all the CGI armies, though.
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11 minutes ago, IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son said:
Give me a wide rerelease of the LOTR trilogy in upscaled 4K on all PLF formats, drop FOTR in Jan, Towers in Feb and ROTK in March. I was too young to see it in theatres when it came out and I would love to see it now in all its glory.
The LOTR trilogy is one of the most memorable moviegoing experiences in my lifetime. It hit me at the right age (in my early 20s), at a time where big budget fantasy/sci-fi movies were still uncommon, and it was the rare ocasion where the film's quality managed to match and exceed the hype.
I only worry that the CGI has - understandably - not aged well and it won't look supergreat on a PLF screen.
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8 minutes ago, filmlover said:
This was probably done a while back and we're just hearing about it now. Sometimes announcements are timed specifically to the release of related projects.
From the article:
The deal was reached prior to the writers strike.
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1 hour ago, Ozymandias said:
The Last Duel is another one from a few years back that somehow managed to avoid getting a bunch of 'lol go woke go broke' youtube videos hurled at it despite being a mega-bomb and that movie absolutely lampoons systemic patriarchy and misogyny(though not in a cheesy or stupid way).
What a great movie that was. As you say, it went about its themes so smartly and with such nuance. I can perfectly understand why it bombed - but at the same time it makes me sad.
Gone with the Wind, yes. Ben Hur, yes. Love Story, yes. Titanic, yes. But Zhivago drags as a film, and the love story isn't that romantic, imo. I feel like it's one of those films that hasn't held up like the others, but again, just my perspective. 
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One confession: I have never seen the first Top Gun. When it came out my parents weren't too keen on taking me to pro-military movies, and once I grew up I just didn't have much of an interest anymore. So, I had zero nostalgia for TGM. I enjoyed it all the same, that movie is just fun. Movie-as-a-rollercoaster-ride at its finest.
TFA was lazy. A bunch of Empire/Vader cosplayers as the villains, a bigger badder Death Star, a young force user from a desert planet saves the day... Once the nostalgia wore off, that movie had no rewatch value to me. The younger characters were actually the most interesting part of it, mostly because they were blank slates and thus fresh, although they ended up squandering that promise.
The Jurassic World movies did have some hooks that the original trilogy teased but never explored in full: the functioning park, the dinosaurs escaping and living among humans. But they just didn't do much with these ideas.