Celedhring
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17 minutes ago, KeepItU25071906 said:
RPO Friday
It's a solid hold. -57% down from a holiday Friday is only disappointing if you're coming from unrealistic expectations.
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13 minutes ago, aabattery said:
Yep. He's the guy who got a crew to move a 300-ton steamship over a mountain.
I wouldn't want to be on one of his sets.
Yep, and directed Klaus Kinski at gunpoint on the set of Aguirre, the wrath of god. He's a legend.
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11 minutes ago, aabattery said:
It's really just normal Herzog. They probably didn't even have to write his lines.
That scene where he makes that fella bite his own finger off is just a reminiscence of him giving direction to the cast of Rescue Dawn.
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3 minutes ago, aabattery said:
Yesssss Herzog showed up.
Best part of the flick. I bet he had to get on a diet after chewing so much scenery.
The first Jack Reacher is such a pleasantly fun movie.
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Looks like The Mummy is going to finish around 375m WW, which is 3 times its reported production budget, with 300m coming from overseas. This horror shared universe thing will just limp along a little more, it seems.
Is Dracula Untold still officially part of this? That one posted similar numbers (25/75 DOM to OS ratio and 3x budget).
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2 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said:
Crystal Skull and Matrix Reloaded were not Friday openers.
You're right. I took out the Transformer films because they weren't Friday openers either, but forgot about those two. I was even there Wednesday night for Crystal Skull! - but I think we can all understand why I'd want to forget that.
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Mmmm...coming up with the best multipliers for non-animated films opening over 90m in the summer, I get:
GotG1 : 3.5x (August)
JW: 3.1x
TA: 3x
TDK: 3.3x (9 years ago)
Dead Man's Chest: 3.1x (11 years ago)
Spider-Man: 3.5x (15 years ago).
Crystal Skull: 3.1x (9 years ago).
Iron Man 1: 3.2x (9 years ago)
Matrix Reloaded: 3x (13 years ago)
And that's it. Everything else - and there's a couple dozens films in there - falls below 3x. I think the pattern is clear.
So it seems to me that 3x is the absolute best case scenario for WW, and we should actually be looking at less than that given how few films have managed to get there in recent times, even with good WOM. All in all, I'm not seeing those 300m predictions. Even a WOM wonder like the first Spider-Man film "only" managed 3.5x, 15 years ago.
That said, I hope to be proven wrong. It would be nice to have WW buck that trend and become a rare box office surprise. But BO history is not on her side.
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8 minutes ago, Cochofles said:
What do you think the prospects of The New Mutants are? Is there any chance that it might reinvigorate the X-Men franchise?
I know it's cheap, but I think they missed a trick by not making this Deadpool's team movie (AFAIK he's not involved). I think the film risks getting lost in the shuffle without a big hook to make the GA notice.
But I think moving in a new direction, developing new characters, is a good idea in itself.
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12 minutes ago, filmlover said:
The franchise is just too old at this point to find many new fans.
And let's not forget that both X2 and X3 adjust to over 300. Also the original X-Men was probably the one that enabled the first golden age of superhero films: it made a mocked genre legit again, and opened it up to characters that weren't Supes or Bats. Sure, it was Spidey the one that later blew up the BO, but X-Men opened the door.
I think, like you, that the franchise is just too long on the tooth. Maybe DP can reinvigorate it, but the main problem -imho- is that the mutant shtick is a bit played out after so many films. Apocalypse was so bereft of ideas. They need to find a new hook that doesn't rely on the tired Xavier-Magneto relationship or the "mutants as a minority" metaphor.
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1 minute ago, WrathOfHan said:
That's a pretty weak multi from previews if it holds.
It's Deadline, of course it won't hold.
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34 minutes ago, m3racer123 said:
You think Avatar 5 will really be out by 2025?
Annoys me so much that we've only got 1 movie from James Cameron in nearly 20 years. Hope he's got enough in the tank to give us more once he's finished with Avatar.
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Any reason Disney estimates a 23% Monday drop for PotC and then turns and says that GotG is dropping 40?
Doesn't make a iota of sense. GotG will be close to 340m with actuals.
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Just now, Napoleon said:
It's weird that Fandango shows the RT score when people go buy tickets on their website. It's like owning a store and having labels telling consumers which products are not good. It doesn't make sense.
Fandango sells tickets through RT already. If Fandango removed the convenience of having said scores on their own website, RT would be offering more value to Fandango customers, than the Fandango site itself. Now that wouldn't make sense.
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6 minutes ago, MyMovieCanBeatUpYourMovie said:
"98% ON ROTTEN TOMATOES!!!!"
(with reviewers named Chris between the ages of 24 and 27)
My bet is that they'll try to get audience scores featured more prominently across sites. These are usually more favorable by default, and can be massaged more easily via advance screenings etc... Make it more like Tripadvisor and less RT/Metacritic.
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35 minutes ago, Water Bottle said:
Would love to see the results of that study. If the study finds RT doesn't affect advance ticket sales, Time Warner and Comcast aren't going to change the site.
Wonder how they would change it though.
The institution I do some jobs for has been approached to come up with ideas on how to tackle this issue (can't get too specific without getting my ass on the line). There's indeed a very real concern on showbiz about how these ratings drive patronage, but they seem a bit lost about what to do. They can't just shut them down or change them up in some lame obvious way, because the format is too popular and somebody else will run it if they close or neuter RT. They seem to be more interested in finding ways to bend aggregated ratings to their will, so to speak.
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BvS is he third best DCEU movie.
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11 minutes ago, MrFanaticGuy34 said:
I mean....who would have thought that a baby voiced by Alec Baldwin can beat Jack Sparrow's 5th movie in the US?
Wait, they are releasing SNL theatrically?
Ah, sorry, different baby.
More seriously, DreamWorks seems to be performing very reliably in that 150-175 bracket as of late. Boss Baby is also performing really well OS. It will finish damn close to 500 WW. Great run.
They aren't one of the big kids in the block anymore, but DWA seems to have stabilized after a rough time.
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7 minutes ago, Chewy said:
I'd probably say War of the Worlds is better (top tier Spielberg) but Begins is really good as well
It think it's great until Tim Robbins shows up in it. Then it goes downhill, and the characters never make an impression. But that first half is truly chilling, I'll give you that. I love Spielberg when he's mean.
It's sort of weird how 10 Cloverfield Lane is pretty much the Tim Robbins segment in WotW, but good.
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1 hour ago, alisson23 said:
I love Pirates of the Caribbean and while I understand that this franchise is getting tiresome, the universe is very extensive and has a lot of story to tell. I think Disney should test a spin off without Jhonny Deep (plus some original movies) and see what happens. I don't see the point in giving a giant salary to Deep anymore. His good times are over.
Not everything has to be a shared universe. I think it's just time to move on.
The PotC films, while not perfect by any means, have a pretty good place among blockbuster cinema of the past decades. And part of the reason is how fresh they felt when they came out - pirate movies were dead at the time, and the added injection of fantasy gave the saga a lot of energy and inventiveness. Let's leave them in their place and seek the next new pleasure, instead of sucking the life out of this one. It deserves better.
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I guess the Xenomorph has finished picking the carcass of the Wimpy Kid and Fox can now release the numbers.
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2 hours ago, baumer said:
Without our two deities, we have to wait for guys like Gitesh. That could happen now, it could happen in 5 hours.
I have been an atheist for most of my adult life, and this is the first time that I feel the coldness of the absence of god(s).
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Interstellar was just ok. Nolan should just move on.
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Much better from GotG, that's more in line with what I expected.
Last weekend's multiplier would put it just a hair below 35m (34.8 or so).
I actually expect A:C to stay flat tomorrow vs true Friday, a small 5% at best. So
4.2+11+12+9 = 36.2
The GOTG threepeat club will still fail, but it will be close enough to make it a game.
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17 minutes ago, Tele Came Back said:
Some theaters (usually premium ones) have kept their film projection systems but most have ditched them entirely and switched over to DCPs only.
There's only two theaters with 35mm projectors right now in Barcelona, and indeed they sell a premium experience/film buff nostalgia. One of them is doing really well, to be frank, and it's my favorite place to watch movies. Seeing Mad Max Fury Road there was an absolute treat.
DCP is just too practical. The recession was bad enough in Spain, and many theaters closed doors, but I can't imagine what would have happened if distributors/theaters also had to shoulder the costs of producing and operating prints. The recession probably accelerated the move to digital in order to reduce operating costs.
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Weekend Thread | Estimates: AQP 50M, RP1 25M, CKBLK 21.4M, BP 8.4M,
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That Friday was nearly the equivalent of a Saturday. So yeah, it's a good drop.
The film's headed towards a sub 50% second weekend after a 4-day opening and great midweek numbers - all of which burnt extra demand. It might even go sub 45%. 150m looks pretty realistic at this point and that's always good for a 50m opener outside of a holiday season.