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3 hours ago, dudalb said:
The streaming numbers give more motivatin for Warners to concentrate on a Wizarding World TV series,, and let the theatrtical films take a rest for while.
It doesn't seem impressive at all compared to other HBO releases.
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6 hours ago, Noctis said:
The pattern here is Queenie.
There was a scene in Crimes between Grindelwald and Queenie in a rose garden that was cut - which I'm sure would have given audiences more context in the long run.
But such a shame they cut this scene...it would have added more depth to her character.
Upon reflection my guess is they cut it because they liked the transition from the blood into the next scene. Still they could have played around with the placement of the Queenie scene; it could have happened later in the movie, for instance after Kama arrives to show she's had enough of this (and also make Vinda seem clever for predicting she would attempt to escape) or they could have placed the scene right after the movie titles before Credence and co arrive.
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45 minutes ago, Noctis said:
There was a deleted scene in which Queenie tries to leave Nurmengard but is caught by Grindelwald. It happens right after he kills the Qilin and before Yousef arrives.
This should have never been cut...it gives us more insight as to how Grindelwald deals with her throughout the film. It also makes me understand why Queenie glared at Vinda when she told her "after you."
Does anyone know what the deleted scenes are?
It seems they always do this: They cut Lupin and Tonks hugging before the battle of Hogwarts mentioning their son, but still left in Harry's line about him.
The deleted scenes are announced. Strangely enough this scene is not listed.
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12 hours ago, WeThrones said:
They are not just talking. There are billion articles and videos in the last 4 years where people just ask for this franchise to be killed. Why they care so much about something they don't care about?
Maybe a combination that they don't like the author and just like having a series to hate on.
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On 10/15/2021 at 8:43 PM, Jonwo said:
I'm surprised they have Wonka wearing his iconic clothing so early on, surely it would make more sense for him to acquire the hat and coat much later on.
Here is the solution for you: Replace the director with David Yates midway through production. His first course correction: Why aren't they all wearing suits? Fixed!
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4 hours ago, TerwillikerInst said:
Why did she have Credence character blow up in a heartbreaking way at the end of the first one from a disease that makes you blow up in a heartbreaking way only to bring him back in the second, all better?
Actually that was always part of the plan, evident from the fact there is a deleted scene showing Credence leaving New York. Not to mention there is a close up of some piece of the obscurial after the destruction, and while that's more subtle both me and my brother called it back in 2016.
As to you other points it's been known that Dumbledore is gay since 2007, but other than that I agree that there are tons of stuff that's probably made up along the way.
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Easy way to get some thumbs up.
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2 hours ago, Thanos Legion said:
People would have turned out in droves for the qilin, a creature with infamously high name recognition among western audiences.
Bambi on the other hand (which he pretty much looks like)...
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Did anyone think in hindsight that the trailers and official synopsis were too vague about what the movie was about? Just tossing out the question as it just occurred to me that basically nothing of the plot was revealed in the trailers apart from assembling the team (not a spoiler). I'm not saying they should reveal a lot, but maybe it would have been wise to suggest it's about
Spoilerthe election and the qilin since that's set up quite early in the movie anyway. And the qilin is a fantastic beast, and the beasts were just briefly featured in the trailers and may have appealed more to family audiences.
I mean in most movies you know the premise of the plot when going in, meaning at least the first 15 minutes tend to be fairly predictable in that regard and personally I like knowing what kind of plot/premise I'm walking into, but then after knowing the premise I want the movie to surprise me.
However, as a digression, when it comes to Harry Potter and Fantastic Beasts it's a different matter personally. It's kind of fun not knowing much beforehand because I know the world and find that uncovering the plot is part of the fun. Thus purely from a selfish point of view I adored that the trailers didn't spoil me, but from a marketing POV I feel it may have been a mistake to cater to fans. That said the nostalgia bait was probably a good move.
What do you guys think? Could the film have fared better if they marketed it differently?
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1 minute ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:
NWH barely does, he punches Green Goblin and almost stabs him? lmao. Come on. This just sounds like MCU shilling. Again, if you think Batman is superficial, then NWH absolutely is too
As much as I love NWH, I'd be hard-pressed to make the argument that's it's a thematically deep movie. But it certainly has well thought out themes and I found it emotionally satisfying so I'm not sure why people want it to be something more than what it's aiming for.
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On 4/18/2022 at 5:40 PM, Macleod said:
Like I said months ago, this is one case where Warners should have taken it direct to HBOMAX. Less public shame and more subs!
And lose money? Not a chance they even considered it! Besides it will be on HBO Max in less than 45 days getting more subs.
That said time to end this franchise. We got a closed ending for most of its characters. They should give us the grand duel, but rebrand it as a Dumbledore prequel, target it mostly for adults and reduce the budget to 120 million.
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3 minutes ago, WeThrones said:
I don't think they need to hide it. Just to make it clear that Dumbledore is now the main character officially.
Agreed. And make that VERY clear. Newt is a fun side character to make the world richer with all his beasts, but they should not clutter the main plot.
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5 minutes ago, Menor Reborn said:Spoiler
This could be just my interpretation, but I read the intention of making the blood pact in the first place to prevent one of them from attacking/betraying the other, if one of them should have a change of heart. When their spells clashed together, however, it seems to me the blood pact "sensed" mutual betrayal from both parts, as in the loyalty bond they once shared when creating the pact finally got broken for good. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I thought that aligned somewhat with the "he sought to kill, I sought to protect" explanation Dumbledore gave that shifted the balance of the pact to break. It couldn't stop them both from fighting if they attacked simultaneously, I suppose, so instead it broke.
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13 minutes ago, Menor Reborn said:Spoiler
I was also generally disappointed by Credence in the film, as you said it makes all the focus on him in CoG seem kinda pointless.
SpoilerYes, Grindelwald said he was the only entity that could destroy Dumbledore, but he was no match at all for Dumbledore. But on a positive note they did set up Credence's sacrifice at the end (although he was saved by both his father and uncle) considering Dumbledore at one point said that it was too late to save Credence's life, but not too late for him to save them. That was rather well done in spirit of the Harry Potter themes from the original series, in addition to the mysterious way the blood pact broke. The explanation afterwards was vaguely logical in a way that reminded me of how Rowling explained Priori Incantatem in Goblet of fire.
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32 minutes ago, Noctis said:
reliable sources are confirming there was a scene where right before Grindelwald leaves Dumbledore, he whispers something in his ears before kissing his neck
Hard to say without seeing it in context of the scene, but I suspect it simply may have disrupted the flow of the scene. That scene was gradually building in dramatic intensity until the restaurant was on fire, leaving Dumbledore all by himself. As much as I would have liked to see that deleted moment, I have a hard time picturing where it would fit.
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48 minutes ago, Menor Reborn said:
It's charming enough but so much of it just...didn't make sense to me, or felt pointless. CoG even with its clear faults felt more significant and thrilling.
Maybe you will find it clearer on a rewatch as
Spoilerthe good guys' plan literally is to confuse the bad guy.
Either way the film admittedly does make significant events of CoG seem less... significant in hindsight. That second movie became even more mediocre in my book seeing how its main plot with Credence
Spoilerdidn't matter a whole lot in the end.
However that doesn't impact my enjoyment of SoD as a self-contained film (though as a part of a series the Credence storyline obviously felt disappointing in
Spoilerhow weak of a weapon he ended up being for Grindelwald after all the build up in CoG, but at the same time the storyline ended in an emotionally satisfying way here and connected well with the main family theme of this self-contained story. So it's a bit of a mixed bag how they dealt with Credence I'd say).
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3 hours ago, WittyUsername said:
WB would have to be crazy to make a fourth film at this point. It’s time to move on.
Oh well if this is it, I'm suitably satisfied with this last movie. Certainly has some annoying flaws which could easily have been fixed, but overall such an engaging and fun adventure movie.
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3 minutes ago, Noctis said:
Their final battle besides having to be thrilling...should also be emotional.
They should also include some beasts in the duel as suggested by someone else. An excellent opportunity to retroactively adapt the moment from the Order of the Phoenix book when Fawkes saves Dumbledore from the killing curse, which was not included in that movie, but should be relevant here.
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18 minutes ago, Noctis said:
They could really pull all the stops for the final film...
I would also add that it should without doubt be the best duel in the entire Wizarding World catalogue. The bar was set high with the Dumbledore vs Voldemort duel back in 2007 to the point that nothing has exceeded it so far, but it's still inexcusable if they don't top it over 15 years later with the development of CGI and Yates' experience of working on these movies since then.
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14 minutes ago, Noctis said:
They could really pull all the stops for the final film...I was gonna say a new director but if it's gonna be just one more, Yates will almost certainly return.
He might as well finish it if they only make one more. But I do wish he would let himself indulge in lengthy action scenes for once. Yes, I mostly like the way he shoots and edits his chase sequences to be short and intense, and I LOVE the tension-building in SOD, but the bigger operatic battles involving multiple people are sometimes lacking. Heyman should push him to deliver the best action he's ever done if he's to continue directing.
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Just now, Noctis said:
One last movie would also require a massive time jump of 12 years.
How would a film jump 12 years?
I don't know, but the way this movie ended Grindelwald is back to square one. He'll have to hide in the shadows for years planning his next move and even then the wizarding community will never forget his crimes.
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10 minutes ago, WeThrones said:
He can somehow help, he loves fantastic beasts after all. In the canon timelines he was 17 when the final duel happened.
I would love to see him bond with Newt over weird "misunderstood" creatures.
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8 minutes ago, WeThrones said:
I mean both COG and SOD felt like that in a way.
I get what you mean, but SOD felt more conclusive to me considering they had an ending to certain storylines set up in COG
Spoilermainly everything with Credence and Queenie going back to Jacob and getting married.
Also the main election plot is self-contained within this movie.
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8 minutes ago, Noiret Jak said:
war of the two worlds
Also that would be an amazing tagline marketing wise, especially if the movie can deliver on that premise.
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