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3 hours ago, excel1 said:
lol, who at that level IS a mistake-free saint?
And the press surrounding todays walk-out probably does ensure Chapek is done. Oh well. Time for Josh D'Amaro.
There’s no way someone as green as Josh is getting the job this quickly. He needs to stay at the parks while someone who has deep connections with Hollywood takes over. They need to go with Peter Rice
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48 minutes ago, filmlover said:
If forced to name only the second reason why would be excited about visiting this state, it would be arguably Universal. These two often make the top Florida employers list every year when you combine everything (parks, hotels, their shopping/dining/entertainment complexes, etc.) into one. Obviously they live in The Happiest Place On Earth's shadow, but to say that Universal (and the brand recognition that comes with them) hasn't tremendously helped Florida's tourism would be completely disingenuous.
Yea sure and if forced to name their second favorite smartphone people would say Samsung Galaxy. Doesn’t mean they have anywhere near the sort of societal soft power.
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22 minutes ago, filmlover said:
I wonder when (if?) Universal/Comcast will ever speak out on all of this because right now it's Disney taking all the heat for this and everyone who has closely followed this whole saga will see that they were also donors to Dennis Baxley (who is responsible for the sponsoring of the bill) and others associated. They might want to put out that fire sooner than later before it catches everyone's attention, which could very well be when they begin the marketing for Bros (the Billy Eichner LGBTQ romcom notable for reportedly being the first studio movie with an all LGBTQ cast which is set for release at the end of September).
Comcast/Universal aren’t anywhere near the lighting rod of visibility that Disney is. Nobody’s gonna care if Comcast is in a headline.
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Stretchy powers are fuckin terrible on screen and marvel limiting it to just Mr. Fantastic is gonna save Kamala Khan from looking like a Ja jabroni.
Trailer is popping off definitely, looks like the tween tone is gonna be a success.
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Begs the question if they do just wait out Chapeks contract who do they make CEO? The most competent high level executive is Peter Rice who I think would be a good choice. D’Amarro isn’t getting the job this quickly.
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22 minutes ago, Notthereverseflash24 said:
What a reactionary take
His take is as mild as skim milk
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Fuck bruh just let me watch the Keaton scenes that’s all I care about anyway
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1 minute ago, EmpireCity said:
Yes, I have a source and will absolutely confirm that it is theatrical only. Also, if you aren't watching, Bob Chapek continues to get beat up from all sides. His ad tier of Disney+ move is largely being seen as desperation and a cheapening move to try and shore up his subscriber numbers. He also is getting beat to shit today over the Don't Say Gay controversy.
There are people at Disney that very much have a giant interest in theatrical revenue and realize that the way forward is to maximize it, not minimize it.
Feel free to bump this and get your glory over me down the road if Lightyear ends up anything other than a theatrical release.
Like the source that told you Pixar was going to go to war publicly and that people wanted to break off and make their own animation company, hmm?
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Just now, DlAMONDZ said:
Unlike some, I'm not gonna drown in copium. Anything under 120m is flat out bad. This is fucking Batman. How many times has he set the OW record again?
This means less hyped movies like Flash and Black Adam will be lucky to make 80 OW
Batman has its massive peaks but fans have also shown their distaste in the past. This movies best situational comparison is Batman Begins having to recover from a severely damaging previous installment
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1 minute ago, Pinacolada said:
I'm sorry but I personally think she's trying way too hard and I see right through it. Twitter's godlike praise for her is so weird
This is the same lady that has attempted to start multiple culture wars about Hulu cancelling her dumb show that like 6 people watched.
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1 minute ago, excel1 said:
None of those people impact public perception which is what I am referring to. I don't see RTH making long term predictions and JAT doesn't decide what the publics view of reasonable standard is.
The public knows less than nothing about this stuff. Their perception means nothing. it shouldn’t be important to you. It’s often as simple as finding a nice round number that looks good in a headline for them.
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3 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:
Honestly i can't see how this will miss 120M even if Friday ended up being 33.4M like Deadline said, but they always do that lowballing for OW so whatever
Still early so hopefully walkups will bring it closer to 37-38M to +130M OW
Don’t think 130 is happening but 120 is reasonable. I think it should shoot for No Way Homes opening day of 121.9m
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1 minute ago, excel1 said:
Respectfully to the people of this site, the numbers thrown around in public have been $150m. Coming in at $110-120m is well below those, no spinning it.
In time you will come to understand that this website is about the best resource there is. Guys like Jat/Rth and the beasts in the tracking thread are better sources than you will ever find on sites meant for mass consumption like yahoo.
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2 minutes ago, excel1 said:
I will check back in later but those figures would be terrible if they hold.
Probably will be 120-125 expecting a bit higher Friday and a better internal multi than that.
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2 minutes ago, BruiseCruise said:
Deadline notoriously lowballs so who cares what they think Friday will come in at?
You’re asking why a box office forum cares about box office numbers from as official of a publication as we can get with access to comscore?
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Deadline at 55m for Friday and 110 for the OW. Perhaps basing internal multipliers on the 17.6 would be more reasonable than the 21.6 for this movie….
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1 minute ago, excel1 said:
Huh? ENDGAME is the most anticipated film in history. it is obviously not standard Marvel. The JL vs. Avengers argument doesn't matter. JL had 1 popular film prior to it (Wonder Woman), 1 mixed film (MOS), 1 high-profile MEH film (Suicide Squad) and 1 VERY high-profile disaster (BVS). Avengers had the uber popular Iron Man, mostly popular Captain America, and somewhat popular Iron Man 2 and Thor.It doesn't take a rocket scientist to look at:
-MOS $128m opening weekend (with mixed reviews)
-BVS $81m opening day (terrible legs every day after)
-Suicide Squad $65m opening day (directly after BvS hideous word of mouth and with terrible reviews)
-Wonder Woman $800m ww
-Aquabro $1.1b WW
And realize those films had REALLY high potential had all of those films actually delivered quality wise. In a different universe, had those films all been good or better, we are probably talking:
-MOS $140m opening weekend, total still would have MEH due to Monsters U/WWZ breakouts the following week
-BvS $210m opening weekend/ $550-600m total
-Suicide Squad $175m opening weekend/$425-450m total
-Wonder Woman $1 billion+ (the film would have opened significantly higher and likely still had great legs)
-JL $1.3-1.5b
-Aquabro $1.2-1.4b
…you do understand and that you are quite literally making numbers up and using that as the basis for you thought process right?
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6 minutes ago, excel1 said:
I don't know if I would go that far. Not starting a Marvel vs. DC here. Just noting whether DC can reach that level. END GAME is not Marvel. That is there most hyped film ever. Aquabro topped $1 billion, Wonder Woman got close to it. Well-done Superman and Batman are no doubt in that range. DC would consistently be in the $1-1.5b range with their big properties had they not screwed the pooch initially. DC needs to stick with quality and they will have very high ceilings in the long run.
Keep in context that the Justice League 7 are DCs biggest characters. Avengers were what? Maybe 4th most prominent marvel team. The roster was without its alpha in Spider-Man, and it’s two biggest after that in XMen and F4. You discount Endgame because you don’t want (or more accurately can’t) to argue against it. That’s just classic fanboy coping.
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15 minutes ago, cax16 said:
Just have to be realistic tbh, I want every movie that DC makes to out open every movie lol but I know that’s not gonna happen.
Listen, DC is never gonna be marvel and if people can’t accept that then that’s on them. That doesn’t mean that DC can’t be successful, there’s only one first place right? That’s marvel, sometimes it’s ok to accept that and just try to do your own thing and find your own avenue for success and I think that’s the path DC movies are on now and the people in charge understand that finally.
Which is quite surprising that fans can’t find happiness in some absolutely beastly performances like Joker and Aquaman and great/good ones like WW and Shazam
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It is true he that this movies performance is being treated with some massive kiddie gloves like it’s some underdog IP fighting the good fight against the machine.
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20 minutes ago, cax16 said:
I get what you’re saying but for me I guess cause I follow DC so closely and see how big Marvels gotten I understand things are just so different now then they were when Nolan’s movies were out. We can always look at past comps etc and try to gauge how this stuff “should or could” work out but right now, especially with DC movies I just don’t think those comparisons work anymore.
The last time Batman was in a movie was with the the rest of the JL and that opened to under a 100m. That opened my eyes to things a lot more and now it’s every movie having to stand on its own and hope it can build an audience for future movies, there’s always gonna be those hardcore Batman or Superman fans that can carry a box office so far but the trust from the GA isn’t there anymore.
It seems like you’re one of the few who is a huge fan of dc that can take how you personally feel about the IP (or movie specifically) without applying it to the general audience and becoming entitled to huge performances.
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20 minutes ago, EmpireCity said:
The last 4-5 pages were some of the most boring shit ever typed.
What happened to your crazy walk ups?
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1 hour ago, Porthos said:
Can we not with the whole DC/MCU bias thing?
I don't think DC/Marvel
flame warsdiscussions are quite as verboten as they once were, but let's not test the Staff's patience and magnanimous nature, right?When someone starts throwing accusations of being biased when you are right on the spot with the numbers and the people that are throwing out the accusations are people who have 0 idea about tracking or BO trends and are literally just upset because they’re fanboys…I think it is entirely appropriate to respond. shutting down all convo about it is rather unfair.
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26 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:
Yeah he’s been downplaying it for weeks now. Probably MCU bias
Reality has liberal *cough* I mean mcu bias
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Has Following the Box Office Lost Its Appeal and Luster?
in Box Office Discussion
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It hasn’t been interesting since the shock and awe of Endgames 357m domestic / 1.2B worldwide opening. Marvel continues to be the only interesting follows as they’re the only ones capable of doing enormous numbers.