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    Weekend Thread (12/10-12) | WSS 800K Previews

    in Numbers and Data

    Posted · Edited by Product Driven Legion

    2 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

    WSS try $4.1M incl previews 10.5ish

    Encanto 2.2 9.5ish (outside chance of upset, true FSS looks real close)

     

     

    1 hour ago, charlie Jatinder said:

    Probably $1.25M. 4.1ish

    Numbers I really care about this week are resident evil, Eternals, V2, and nttd 😂

    Spider-Man: No Way Home | December 17, 2021 | The More Fun Stuff Version (yes, that's what it's called) comes to theaters September 2nd!

    in Box Office Discussion

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    8 minutes ago, Porthos said:

     

     

    At the risk of over-reading, I do raise a slight eyebrow at comments like this:

     

     

    I'm sure this has already been throughly discussed in this thread, but, I dunno.  If the stars of the film keep telling folks not to expect Happy Fun Times, maybe it's not going to be all that Fun.

     

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    I have stepped back from some of my concerns, as on reflection (and the IW/EG example) catharsis done right could do gangbusters in this environment.  At the same time I'd be lying if I didn't have a slight concern overall given that Fun Is In right now. 

     

    How will people react if they're expecting one type of movie, but get another?  Gonna find out soon enuf, I suppose.

    Wouldn’t be spider-man:endgame without some serious sad vibes

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    Weekend Thread (12/10-12) | WSS 800K Previews

    in Numbers and Data

    Posted

    Just now, Cmasterclay said:

    Then we might as well stop thinking of movies as art and start thinking of them as pure product. Might as well blow up the Mono Lisa and replace it with a meme.

    Way ahead of you buddy. Vast vast majority of movies that are interesting to me as a vector of daily gross I will never see, and certainly not pay for a trip to see.

    Weekend Thread (12/10-12) | WSS 800K Previews

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    Posted

    1 minute ago, Eric Feels Pretty said:

    Then maybe we should change the forum’s name to Artistic Quality Theory. Sounds way cooler to me

    It seems like a lot of people want to be posting on Artistic Quality Theory instead! I think there are actually a lot of places to do that, but it’s certainly not why I’m in this particular place.

    Weekend Thread (12/10-12) | WSS 800K Previews

    in Numbers and Data

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    1 minute ago, 4815162342 said:

     

    Matrix doesn't come out on the 17th.

     

     

    And Berg unleashing his powers on a musical that's getting raves is far more a cinematic event than spider movie #15 that has messy marketing with kinda ugly visuals.

    WSS+M4 combined total will be like NWH 2day. By all means, like what you like. But money talks as far what normal people consider a cinematic event and what they do not, and we are on box office theory rather than artistic quality theory or whatever.

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    Weekend Thread (12/10-12) | WSS 800K Previews

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    4 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

    Correct. And that's bad. And we should be doing everything we can to stop it?

    Like… what? Serious question — what is to be done? Posting about how you wish less vfx/CBMish movies were still successful theatrical exclusives to a degree they have been in the past isn’t going to magic the GA into wanting to see them again. The streaming genie isn’t going back in its bottle, home tech is only going to get better and cheaper.

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    Weekend Thread (12/10-12) | WSS 800K Previews

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    Musicals don’t have that V.F.X.
     

    Therefore, to much of the GA, they’re home movies more than go out in your car movies. This was a secular trend even before/without covid and the comparison to a 2014 release like Into the woods is pretty meaningless imo. 2014 was before the streaming era and 2021 is well in the middle of it.    

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    Weekend Thread (12/10-12) | WSS 800K Previews

    in Numbers and Data

    Posted · Edited by Product Driven Legion

    24 minutes ago, Eric Feels Pretty said:

     

    This applies to you too bucko.

    Okay, okay, I’ll cool it with some of the more trolly jokes. But on a serious note I do think discussion about the fact that some movies are doing extremely well still (inducing one in 7 days) is a pretty natural and inevitable response to other movies doing not so well and concerns about broad market health.

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    Weekend Thread (12/10-12) | WSS 800K Previews

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    12 minutes ago, Eric Feels Pretty said:

    And cue them to start in 3...2...1...

    I actually do think they’re fun 👀   
     

    Anyway no need to meltdown about this adult singy movie with low numbers when we have a real cinematic event lined up in 7 days.   
     

    Showerthought — NWH probably sold more $$ on Th than WSS, right?

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    Week 7 - More Double Madness, Deadline is this week usual time

    in Chasmmi's Infamous Box Office Game

    Posted

    Part A:

    December 10th Weekend

    1. Will West Side Story open to more than $16M? 1000 No

    2. Will West Side Story open to more than $24M? 2000 No

    3. Will West Side Story open to more than $20M? 3000 No

    4. Will National Champions open to more than $4M? 4000 No

    5. Will National Champions open to more than $7M?  5000 No

     

    6. Will Encanto stay in the top 2? 1000 Yes

    7. Will Christmas with the Chosen stay above Eternals? 2000 Yes

    8. Will Eternals Total Box OFfice overtake No Time To Die? 3000 Yes

    9  Will Ghostbusters drop more than 57%? 4000 No

    10. Will Red Rocket have a PTA above $27,500? 5000 No

     

    December 17th Weekend (but deadline is still this week)

    11. Will Spiderman open to more than $220M? 1000 Yes

    12. Will Spiderman open to more than $250M? 2000 No

    13. Will Spiderman open to more than $190M? 3000 Yes

    14. Will Will Spiderman's Total gross after Friday be enough to overtakeEncanto's Total gross? 4000 Yes

    15. Will Resident Evil Open stay in the top 11? 5000 Yes

     

    16. Will Nightmare alley open above $4M? 1000 Yes

    17. Will Clifford drop more than 57%? 2000 Yes

    18. Will Eternals have a weekend total above $1M? 3000 Yes

    19. House of Gucci have a PTa above $750? 4000 No

    20. Will Dune's Total gross be more than 50% of Venom's? 5000 No

     

    21, Will the combined Percentage Drop of Encanto and Eternals be higher than 120%?  5000 No

     

    Bonus: 

     

    11/21   2000

    12/21   4000

    13/21   6000

    14/21   9000

    15/21   12000

    16/21    15000

    17/21    18000

    18/21   22000

    19/21   25000

    20/21    30,000

    21/21  35,000 

     

     

    Part B:

     

    The top 3 predictions will score points as follows:

     

    Closest:  Within 1% - 15,000,  Within 2,5% - 12000,   Within 5% 9,000, Within 10% - 6000  Outside 10% - 3000 points  

    2nd Closest:  Within 1% - 12,000,  Within 2,5% - 10000,   Within 5% 7,000, Within 10% - 4000  Outside 10% - 2000 points

    3rd Closest:  Within 1% - 10,000,  Within 2,5% - 8000,   Within 5% 5,000, Within 10% - 2000  Outside 10% - 1000 points

     

    10th Weekend

    1. What will West Side Story make for its 3 day OW? 14,897,654

    2. What will Resident Evil's percentage drop be? 41%

     

    17th Weekend

    3. What will Spiderman make for its 3 Day OW? 228M

    4. What will House of Gucci's percentage drop be? 55%

     

    Part C

     

    There will be many films to place and points are expanded because traditionally people haven't scored well here:

     

    December 10th 

    2. Encanto

    3. Ghostbusters 

    5. Eternals

    7. National Champions

     

    December 17th 

    3. Nightmare Alley

    5. Ghostbusters

    8. Raccoon City

    11. Venom 2

    The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

    in Numbers and Data

    Posted

    4 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

    That was my guess based on the location in your profile.  The other is in Orange, CA.  Just for fun (is fun the right word) I took a look at sales.

     

    63 shows

    6977/13181 sold

    $118,922.13!

     

    34 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

    What is the most ticket sold theater so far?

    In India I have a theater selling 7k tixs for opening day so far on 20 shows. May get may be 6 more shows eventually for OD of 9-9.5k tixs.

    About 7k US as well looks like. Should go over 10k final.

    Spider-Man: No Way Home | December 17, 2021 | The More Fun Stuff Version (yes, that's what it's called) comes to theaters September 2nd!

    in Box Office Discussion

    Posted

    20 minutes ago, cheesypoofs said:

    Why just the unvaccinated? Vaccinated people can still get Covid, pass Covid, and die of Covid too. My fiancee has Covid right now and she's the only one in our household who is vaccinated and the only one with Covid. I had a co-worker who was in his early 40s die of Covid even though he was fully vaccinated. Unvaccinated aren't the enemy. People need to stop this discriminatory crap

    Vaccinated people are much less likely to get covid, pass covid, and die of covid. You should all get vaccinated, you’re risking your own lives and other’s for nothing.

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    Disney+ | MARVEL STUDIOS PRESENTS A KEVIN FEIGE PRODUCTION: ROGERS THE MUSICAL (Featuring HAWKEYE) | November 24, 2021

    in Streaming, TV Series, & VOD Movies

    Posted · Edited by Product Driven Legion

    1 hour ago, eddyxx said:

    Feige sticking these 1 hour shows to just 6 episodes was very short sighted. Even 8 episodes instead of 6 would’ve fixed a lot of pacing issues.

    I bet Feige would love 8 instead, but he doesn't have a *complete* blank check. We've already got like 1200 minutes of live action this year -- I think 1600 would have dramatically improved quality via pace but it is a 33% higher spend for higher ups to approve sight unseen.

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