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2 hours ago, Eric! said:
Interview with a Vampire, when?
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6 hours ago, dudalb said:
Sony never had the merchandising rights to Spiderman.That always belonged to Marvel. THey did pay Sony a share of the profits from the Spidey merchanside that releated to the Sony Movies.
Same deal with Fox and the X men.
Those Forbes/comicbook.com reports never specified. I know for sure Fox only had tie-in merchandising.
Legit question, how much do those particular rights cost in full?
The only scenario that would make sense in a 50/50 split is if Sony got back a significant portion, so they can chug on til' their pockets content on making how ever many Spidey flicks just to exponentially boost sales for everybody.
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1 hour ago, dudalb said:
Marvel ,when it made it's intial deals with Fox and Sony for X Men and Spidey, retained merchandising rights, with the other studios getting a cut of the profits. That deal still stands.
The fuss is just over Spiderman's appearing in the MCU and the Marvel Studios involvement in the Solo Spidey movies.
29 minutes ago, Menor said:Most people don't pay attention to the corporate side of things. People hear "Spider-Man is leaving the MCU and Sony is making solo films with him" and react to that. I think Disney and Sony are both at fault here but it's not difficult to figure out why Sony is taking the heat, especially since people were already salty at them for SM3/ASM/ASM2.
Well at some point then, Sony sold the merchandising back in 2011. They got into this deal hoping they'd get their shit together with this IP and make sure it's bankable enough to keep holding on to it (even put in place penalty safe guards if they with Marvel didn't gross a certain amount).
They managed to make the IP bankable
+ award-winning without Marvel.
So, what's Sony's financial incentive for Disney wanting a bigger cut when they could have continued w/e deal they currently had in place?
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38 minutes ago, Litio said:
"Disney asked that future Spider-Man films be a 50/50 co-financing arrangement between the studios, and there were discussions that this might extend to other films in the Spider-Man universe." LMFAO
no mention of merchandising?
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12 hours ago, Nero said:
But Endgame easily surpassed Avatar initial run easily. The problem was Avatar made 30M in re release and for Endgame to beat that it had an expansion. Simple.
It easily coulda/woulda/shoulda easily.
It needed somewhere around 10 mil, but then the extension came the very next day as soon as they wanted the other 30.
I'm hoping the next one doesn't feel the necessity to spend this much to make this kind of splash.
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Avatar didn't need the rerelease to claim the top spot. Are we done here?
In 2020, there will be double the number of movies that crossed the 2 bil mark.
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Eddie Murphy, who?
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27 minutes ago, TMP said:
Anyone else see The Boys on Amazon?
Surprised by the amount of parody/deconstruction excised out of the books. Surprised how much more straight-laced the show's approach is to the material. Rogen & Goldberg were definitely not as involved for this one.
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2 hours ago, HeadShot said:
Also Avatar discussion.
So excited for the netflix version.
If it's just Bryke and not Mr & Mrs Ehasz, oooooooooooohhhhh boy.
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I'm hoping the trailer is cut horribly, but it still gives off the worst kind of B movie vibes.
I had no idea this was a show. 😲
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11 hours ago, JB33 said:
I would be pretty annoyed if there wasn't precedence in the comics.
I also don't really blame people unless they're being REALLY dramatic and unreasonable about it. You're changing a character the audience has grown to love. It would be like that with any product when you suddenly change a huge part of it. It's nothing to do with "ewww I don't want women in mah superhero movies". If that was the case people would have had a problem with Valkyrie. It just feels agenda driven.
That being said, I'll reiterate: there IS precedence in the comics for Jane Foster Thor so it does feel organic enough for me. Other fans may not be aware and understandably think Marvel is making Thor a woman just for the sake of it.
Moreover, the Marvel Cinematic Universe was supposed to be donezo with Natalie Portman. Why bring her back over Sif & Valkyrie to take over for Thor especially when they haven't even gotten to his other known horsefaced suceessor.
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41 minutes ago, ban1o said:
Idk if this is the right thread for this but it really annoys me when people say Disney has a monopoly in the movie industry, If other studios were making movie people wanted to see it wouldn't be a problem. WB owns all of DC but is struggling to make a superhero movie hit a billion. Universal, Paramount, Sony. It's not Disney's fault they are struggling....
It is if this shark swallows another shark therefore making the wiggle room in the tank tighter.
Heil Mickey.
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1 hour ago, cannastop said:
How?
Google lists a release date for 2 years from this Nov apparently
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Bohemian Rhapsody
A Star is Born
The Grinch (franchise) (animated remake)
A Quiet Place (franchised)
Crazy Rich Asians (franchised) (two sequels forthcoming)
The Meg (franchised) (what monster shark movie isn't?)
Ready Player One (😂🤣)
Peter Rabbit (franchised) (sequel next year)
The Mule
Rampage
A Wrinkle in Time
It (franchised) (sequel out this year)
Coco
Dunkirk
Get Out
The Boss Baby (franchised)
The Greatest Showman
Split (franchised) (Unbreakable Cinematic Universe)
Wonder
Girls Trip
Baby Driver (franchised) (Wright's forthcoming first sequel ever)
Murder on the Orient Express (franchised) (sequel next year)The Secret Life of Pets (franchised)
Zootopia (franchised)
Sing (franchised)
Moana (franchised)
Hidden Figures
Trolls (franchised) (sequel next year)
La La Land
Central Intelligence
The Legend of Tarzan (franchise) (what number is this in the Tarzan saga?)
Sully
Bad Moms (franchised) (the Christmas sequel)
The Angry Birds Movie (franchised) (sequel out this year)
Arrival
Passengers
Sausage PartyInside Out
The Martian
The Revenant
Home (franchised) (tv spinoff)
Straight Outta Compton
San Andreas
Daddy’s Home (franchised)
Kingsman: The Secret Service (franchised) (prequel next year)
The Good Dinosaur (franchised) (woah, a DTV sequel...WDA still did those?)
Spy
Trainwreck
American Sniper
The LEGO Movie (franchise) (LEGO Cinematic Universe)
Maleficent (franchised) (sequel out this year)
Big Hero 6 (franchised)
Interstellar
Gone Girl
Divergent (franchised)
Neighbors (franchised)
Ride Along (franchised)
Into the Woods
Lucy
The Fault in Our Stars
Unbroken
Mr. Peabody and Sherman (franchise) (21st century tv spinoff)
The Maze Runner (franchised)
The Equalizer (franchised)
Noah
Edge of Tomorrow (franchised)
Non-Stop
Imitation GameIron Man (franchised) (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
Hancock
Wall-E
Kung Fu Panda (franchised)
Twilight (franchised)
Horton Hears a Who (franchise) (animated remake)
Sex and the City (franchise)
Mamma Mia! (franchised)
Gran Torino
Marley and Me
Slumdog Millionaire
Wanted
Get Smart (franchised)
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Four Christmases
Bolt
Tropic Thunder
Bedtime Stories
Journey to the Center of the Earth (franchised)
Eagle Eye
Step Brothers
You Don’t Mess With Zohan
Yes Man
10,000 BC
Beverly Hills Chihuahua
Pineapple Express
21
Valkyrie
What Happens in Vegas
Jumper (franchised) (tv spinoff)
Cloverfield (franchised) (Cloverfield Cinematic Universe)Transformers (franchise)
I Am Legend
Alvin and the Chipmunks (franchise)
300 (franchised)
Ratatouille
The Simpson’s Movie (franchise)
Wild Hogs
Knocked Up (franchised)
Juno
American Gangster
Enchanted
The Bee Movie
Superbad
I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry
Hairspray
Blades of Glory
Ghost Rider (franchised)
Meet the Robinsons
Norbit
The Game Plan
The Bucket List
Bridge to Terabithia
Beowulf (franchise)
Disturbia
Cars (franchised)
Night at the Museum (franchised)
The Da Vinci Code (franchised)
Happy Feet (franchised)
The Pursuit of Happyness
Over the Hedge (franchise)
Talladega Nights
Click
The Departed (franchise) (American remake)
Borat
The Devil Wears Prada
The Break-Up
Dreamgirls
Failure to Launch
Inside Man
Open Season (franchised)
Eight Below
Nacho Libre
You, Me and Dupree
Eragon
Monster HouseChronicles of Narnia (franchised)
War of the Worlds (franchise)
Wedding Crashers
Madagascar (franchised) (Madagascar Cinematic Universe)
Mr and Mrs Smith
Hitch
The Longest Yard
Fantastic Four (franchise)
Chicken Little
Robots
Walk the Line
The Pacifier
The 40 Year Old Virgin
Fun With Dick and Jane
Flightplan
Monster in Law
Are We There Yet? (franchised)
Brokeback Mountain
The Dukes of Hazard (franchise)
March of the Penguins (franchised)
Constantine
The Exorcism of Emily Rose (franchise)
Four Brothers
Sin City (franchised)
The InterpreterThe Passion of the Christ
Meet the Fockers (franchise) (uhhh...Meet The Parents was 2000)
The Incredibles (franchised)
The Day After Tomorrow
National Treasure (franchised)
The Polar Express
Shark Tale
I, Robot
Troy
50 First Dates
Van Helsing
Farenheit 9/11
A Series of Unfortunate Events (franchised)
Dodgeball
The Village
The Grudge (franchise)
Collateral
The Aviator
Million Dollar Baby
Starsky and Hutch
Along Came Polly
Mean Girls (franchised)
Anchorman (franchised)
The SpongeBob Movie (franchise)
The Notebook
Man on Fire
The Terminal
Garfield (franchise)
Ray
Ladder 49
Christmas with the Kranks
White Chicks
Sideways
On 7/6/2019 at 12:37 PM, The Panda said:There’s a few primary guesses I’d have:
Rise of streaming platforms
Market Consolidation (Disney in particular)
Introduction of Cinematic Universes
Success of easily adaptable serial material (Comic Books, Star Wars, Remakes, etc)
Success of Nostalgia based products (rehashing old products, fits in with easily adaptable material)
Those are all things that have grown more prevalent this decade (while a few of them began last decade). Hard to say which of them takes the bill for the primary reason why, or if there even is a primary reason and it’s a large mixture of many.
Success drives an industry and that shift from what used to be the highest grossing movies market to now
tells the story just fine.
At a relatively different scale, yet just as pervasive, Look at all the horror, action, and scifi movie franchises.
There was certainly more than enough straight-to-video sequels prior to streaming.
Batman & Superman weren't the only superheroes being franchised before Marvel really got going.
This whole cinematic universe trend can't move any slower.
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1 hour ago, NamakFiskKa said:
Good : DC properties has pretty great track record with ex New Line helmers
Bad : Andy has too much on its plate so much that he can even fit another WB production before he can latest exit before this reaches pre-production
Only other thing on his imdb page is Attack on Titan, which should take much longer to produce than a Flash movie...but I'd still be betting on this other anime adaptation coming out sooner than a Flash movie.
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Is that recent Film Gob vid a good re-cap of previous pages?
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3 hours ago, Alli said:
Filming begins. The release datw is shit. WW84 will kill its legs, not that this is supposed to be leggy, but still
If this has the legs of the last two it won't make a difference.
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Can Glass be a funny book movie?
Just got around to Alita and it looks like 2019 so far is without a well written cbm.
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4 hours ago, RobrtmanAStarWarsReference said:
Snyder could also be a big liar
The guy who has a cut or two or three for every movie?
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1 hour ago, dudalb said:
As the CW DC shows are now. They were really good for the firstfew seasons but then lost steam.
I hear Supergirl & LoT operate in reverse. Can confirm on LoT...Supergirl is just slightly more tolerable I guess.
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5 hours ago, WittyUsername said:
Looks like I was wrong in my assessment that The Secret Life of Pets 2 would be the biggest non-Disney/non-Marvel film of the year. I’m somewhat relieved by that, but at the same time, it really does reinforce the fact that no studio other than that damn mouse has been able to leave any kind of mark at the box office this year.
What's the current bet now? the two Rock movies?
I totally forgot about IT 2.
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7 minutes ago, John Marston said:
if Disney hadn't bought Fox I wonder what they would have done after the bombage that happened this weekend since the movie would have been the same.
So, how much of the movie feels like it's been changed due to apparently what they originally had was too similar to Cap Marvel?
Also, how much does it feel it's been changed from a 2-parter?
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33 minutes ago, MinaTakla said:
- What could the future be for the studio?
- Does SLOP’s underperformance become a standalone case where the marketing and film failed to ignite interest or does it impact their future releases which are Minions 2 (2020) and Sing 2 (2021) and I assume Mario is 2022 with direct supervision from the original Mario creator?
- Do we look at SLOP 2 as a special case where there was simply not a franchise there or as a downward trend that may cascade to upcoming Illumination IP?
- Every animated studio has a dud or underperformer. This could be Illumination’s 'Lego' moment. But can/will they recover?
- Has Illumination lost its touch with the public or is this a one-off dud relatively speaking?
- Could streaming be impacting animated films more than other genres?
- More movies.
- They don't look at one movie of a franchise & go, "this other unrelated movie is doomed."
- See above.
- LEGO get by on so little, but they have hundreds of hours worth of content.
- One Toy Story knockoff of ten others goes under, whoop di doop.
- No because scifi/fantasy have been impacted most. Illumination could do the industry a favor by making more movies like Sing, not musicals necessarily...just not as dumb as the average kid's movie.
+ award-winning without Marvel.
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